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Prostitutes/Call girls not such good idea?
Posted: 2014-08-22, 1:06 am

Amsterdamaged1
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Ok,

I think I've developed quiet an issue. basically, since I started visiting escorts/prostitutes both in UK & Amsterdam I feel, pretty desensitized from girls in my personal life. let me explain why, girls available to me in My personal life, don't match any escort (In terms of overall attractiveness.) ''call girl'' from what's on offer. I Went and fucked a girl today, same age, reasonably nice girl, nothing that made me really think ''WOW Absolutely flawless'' though, actually far from that.

I do get girls, just the girls I don't necessarily want :/ and if, they are stunningly attractive? then their is usually some kind of catch, usually being a mum to a number of kids or simply there is some of another which simply, puts me off from them. when I was younger, I would of never ever imagined, I'd be of interested in visiting escorts, red light girls etc. but, I almost feel that the girls I want to have sex with? happen to be they are stunningly sex workers.

I don't feel/think I want to be in a Relationship, especially with a girl I am half hearted about and where I am From in my neighbourhood every girl either seems to be somebody I knows ex, whore or just bad news in general. Now, I feel that visiting escorts, call girls, RLD girls, Prostitutes, whatever you want to classify them as, that I get what I want! ultimately. because I'm not down for no commitments etc.

But, I feel a kind of ''wrongness'' about it? almost like, I am doing something terribly wrong and that I could be Taking advantage? knowing I've paid for sex? It's like, I feel am looked down upon or something? I have a friend, who say's pretty much the same thing, as I do. he get's a lot of girls, but he has no standards, if you understand what I mean? were as me? I am VERY in particular and feel, not that I am Prince Harry, but the innerness Knowing I have fucked far more attractive girls, I would simply rather cut my nose to spite my face, as the Saying goes.

You hear, how people say ''oh, those who visit prostitutes are disgraceful, the poor girls are pimped, they just want the money.'' blah blah and I feel quiet ashamed, but I can't help but think, it's not really like that? some Independent escorts, just love sex and are happy with that as a job, some others... not such the case, I don't really know. but, basically I just seem to feel ''Arr.. fuck going to meet her and pretend I want a relationship, Just to get into her pants, she's not even that good looking anyway, I'll just go and make a payment and cut to The chase, get what I want, no strings attached and am gone!'' and this is where I feel, I could be developing quiet a prostitute habit.

Not only the fact, Amsterdam RLD girls and in general call girls being more attractive, that spring me to there attention, but the fact, that you can just visit the next one, the next one and one after another. so you end up, fucking a load of attractive girls and not stuck with that same 1 so in turn, I feel I don't get bored of the girl or The sex for the matter? that is were I feel, different races/nationalities become involved, as I like girls of many Different backgrounds. in fact, I'd prefer a foreign woman over an English woman... I think?

Something so much more appealing about them, I don't know what? I have considered, finding a nice girl and getting into a relationship and actually ''Possibly'' being able to love that girl, but visit call girls and just have Them simply for sex, but overall care about my gf and have her as kind of No. 1 and the one, that well.... is my gf I guess, but that's unfair! as you can tell? I am pretty confused! as to where this could be heading for me and Am I quiet well, going to have some habit, potentially even long term. anybody else ever been in a similar situation?






















P.s Quiet a contradiction, as I have upcoming trips, which I will cover trip reports, least I could do is perhaps update the forum and maybe give something back? I am staying of the forum, till trips this fall, it is then I shall log back on. definitely feeling conscious about certain things and I don't feel it's healthy for me enquiring about ''Who is that girl? '' etc etc. Thank you Micerz, especially Carice... Top Guy! take care of yourself for now.




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Re: Prostitutes/Call girls not such good idea?
Posted: 2014-08-22, 1:34 am

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I have been paying for sex since I was 16 and now in my forties.I have a friend who has been marrid twice and has kids by both.HE knows I pay for sex and looks on it as being very cold and how could you enjoy it.A relationship is a very big commitment.IVe had a few girlfriends all be it short term ones I have Genrally had better sex that's been paid for.IM not looking for a relationship now and happy to keep the single life and enjoy girls when I feel the need to.I keep my visits to girls very private.I look at it as a private buisness between 2 people who both get what they need out of it and should be left at that.
Re: Prostitutes/Call girls not such good idea?
Posted: 2014-08-22, 2:23 am

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Well, to me, it's a very complicated issue. First of all, I don't care about people looking down on me for it. I think people who look down on the sex trade are absolute hypocrites. Prostitution has been around literally since the dawn of civilization, and yet it seems to be almost universally reviled. Statistically, a good portion of the people who treat prostitutes and their clients with disdain are likely doing it themselves, not to mention how many very successful, famous people who have done it. The notion that only pathetic people who can't get laid do it is silly. If anything, as the income bracket goes up, the percentage of people in that bracket who use sex workers seems to go up too. Wall Street, Hollywood, Asian business tycoons, Oil Sheiks, they're some of the biggest customers of the sex trade. I've said it before, but I'd guess that probably at least 50% of all men have or will try it at least once.

To me, I see sex in a relationship and sex with a prostitute as entirely different things. I date, I've had girlfriends, and I accept that the people I date probably won't look like the girls in De Wallen. That's ok, that's not why I'm with them. I'm with them because I connect with them on a personal and emotional level. Sex with a significant other is different. It's making love. Sex with a prostitute is fucking. It's just harmless fun, an indulgence. I don't see it as any different than treating yourself to a nice dinner at a fancy restaurant or getting a massage at a spa. It's just something nice you do for yourself to make yourself feel good every now and then. I see it as a supplement to a healthy sex life, not a substitute.

I think obviously some unfortunate things do happen in the sex trade, but the extent of it is greatly exaggerated, and I think a lot of it happens BECAUSE it's illegal and underground in so many places. From my experience, both anecdotally and based on research (I'm currently campaigning our government to not criminalize prostitution here in Canada, which they are in the process of doing), in places where it's legal and regulated, abuse is far less common. If you doubt that there are escorts that truly enjoy their job, have a session with Dita sometime. See if you doubt it then.
Re: Prostitutes/Call girls not such good idea?
Posted: 2014-08-22, 10:41 am

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Good post Grim.
Re: Prostitutes/Call girls not such good idea?
Posted: 2014-08-22, 11:25 am

kingconan
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I echo what Grimmul has posted.

I don't kid myself to think that the girls in the RLD are in love with me and are having the best time of their lives. I do think however that some of them do enjoy their job, the same as people with "normal" jobs have good days and bad days.

Sex in the RLD is just that - sex. It is animalistic and there is no real emotional connection on the level that you would get in a relationship.

Sex in a relationship might be sometimes a bit more boring or vanilla but the connection is completely different.

Whether or not you decide if visiting sex workers is moral in your eyes or not is entirely up to you - that's a decision that only an individual can make.
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Posted: 2014-08-22, 3:20 pm

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The connection with your girl back home is different, but the sex is paid for it all the same. Whether its a prostitute, girlfriend, or wife.. you're paying for sex. That could be through actual financial support as the breadwinner in the relationship or by giving up your time..and time is money. Ask any guy after a recent date with his gf and he'll most likely say that his wallet is lighter. Or ask someone recently divorced how much they had to pay?

Im not delusional, I know im paying strictly for sex and a fine woman's company when i visit the wallen. I also realize its a bargain compared to the time and money spent building a healthy relationship at home that includes awesome sex. Prostitutes don't satisfy our need to be loved, they satisfy mans primal desire to bang everything in sight. Lol

And for that, the wallen is an amazing place! I figure you only live once. :)
Re: Prostitutes/Call girls not such good idea?
Posted: 2014-08-26, 3:13 pm

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excellent thread. i do enjoy thoughts like this on the subject.

i agree 100% that sex with somebody you connect with is totally different from paid sex. i think paid sex is far more honest if that is just what your looking for, instead of messing girls around.

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Posted: 2014-08-26, 7:19 pm

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I wish I was a monger back when I was in my 20s after college. I was razor-focused on my career and working at least 14 hours a day, including weekends, trying to make a name for myself in my profession. Did not have time or the energy for a girlfriend, and all the ones that I tried ended in failure.

But I still was a hot-blooded young man with plenty of sex drive, and the pressure of picking up girls in bars or managing fuck buddy relationships was even more stress added to my real job. Masturbation & porn only helps to a certain extent.

IMO being a monger is a good alternative (particularly when it is affordable) as it helps young and hardworking lads stay sane from the pressures of work life while still being productive by contributing to the economy in their day jobs.

Anyway, that's just my two cents.
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Posted: 2014-09-01, 1:45 pm

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ams2008dam wrote:
I have been paying for sex since I was 16 and now in my forties.I have a friend who has been marrid twice and has kids by both.HE knows I pay for sex and looks on it as being very cold and how could you enjoy it.A relationship is a very big commitment.IVe had a few girlfriends all be it short term ones I have Genrally had better sex that's been paid for.IM not looking for a relationship now and happy to keep the single life and enjoy girls when I feel the need to.I keep my visits to girls very private.I look at it as a private buisness between 2 people who both get what they need out of it and should be left at that.


I started 2 years later than you at 18,i,m 58 now.During these 40 years i only had a relationship with 1 non working girl and it was not over love for each other but for her desperate want to stay in LA vs the brutal cold of mid america she came from and i said i can provide for that ,it lasted 4 years,rest of time i saw working girls and glad i did -freedom.Now fast forward 40 years i kind of had relationships with 2 working ladies here in Florida,but unfortunately 1 of them retired after meeting a guy same way as i met her that can provide everything for her.She went from living hotel to hotel to an apartment on the beach and he bought her a BMW 645CI on top of that,i did get to have some fun cruising that car since her sugar daddy paid me to do some work on it,a lot nicer ride than the old BMW i own.The 2nd lady,we still chill together when she,s not busy,but during the time we were hanging out i told her i wish she would get help in getting off drugs which is what she said she wanted to do and she told me something which reflects on what sources who are against our hobby said-she said she takes drugs to keep her mind off of doing it with total strangers and that she does not enjoy her work and will stop as soon as she gets enough for college.Hopefully she,s just 1 exception since most girls i,ve talked to said they enjoyed meeting different people,etc,which are your take on this?

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Re: Prostitutes/Call girls not such good idea?
Posted: 2014-09-01, 7:02 pm

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I think it really depends on the girl and why they got into the business. Just like any business, different people get into it for different reasons. I'm sure a lot of girls start because they think they'd have relatively little earning potential in any other field and are doing it simply for the money. In that case, I can certainly see why they might not enjoy what they do. I know quite a few girls dislike their customers and think of them as pathetic scumbags, and I think this mentality is something they use as a defense mechanism (and also to be able to justify scamming their customers, as girls like this often seem to do).

On the other hand, there are quite a few girls who get into it because they genuinely enjoy sex and are naturally very sociable people and enjoy meeting and connecting with new people. Some girls also see what they do as therapy and enjoy the feeling of helping people. I mentioned Dita above, and she is a perfect example of this.

It all comes down to mentality, like anything, you gotta be doing it for the right reasons.
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Posted: 2014-09-04, 3:43 pm

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Degraff2010 wrote:
The connection with your girl back home is different, but the sex is paid for it all the same. Whether its a prostitute, girlfriend, or wife.. you're paying for sex. That could be through actual financial support as the breadwinner in the relationship or by giving up your time..and time is money. Ask any guy after a recent date with his gf and he'll most likely say that his wallet is lighter. Or ask someone recently divorced how much they had to pay?

Im not delusional, I know im paying strictly for sex and a fine woman's company when i visit the wallen. I also realize its a bargain compared to the time and money spent building a healthy relationship at home that includes awesome sex. Prostitutes don't satisfy our need to be loved, they satisfy mans primal desire to bang everything in sight. Lol

And for that, the wallen is an amazing place! I figure you only live once. :)

What a great post, you're spot on.
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Posted: 2014-10-02, 6:02 am

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For me it's a bit like a wank. Lost in the moment but no lasting feelings. Just pleasure.
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Posted: 2014-10-02, 7:01 am

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As long as regular women at home want to play their silly little games, then I have no hang-ups about paying for sex. How many times have you guys started dating a decent women who then started treating you like an idiot, constantly making demands, constantly wanting to know where you are (even during work time), constantly being a pain in the ass? Fuck that shit imo....

We weren't meant to settle down... society tells us to settle down. Why? For religious reasons back in the day, then consumer reasons now. If you don't settle down you won't buy a house. You won't buy a car. You won't buy consumer goods such as clothes all the time. Not as much anyway. But with a family then you're obliged to do all this. And the fat cats at the top are rolling in money whilst you're in debt like a servitudal pig.

Also, I say to my friends "Why would I want to live with an ugly fat cow, with more facial and ass hair than me, who bitches, moans, insults and demeans me... all without the regularity of sex as a consolation? If I wanted that, I'd go back home to my mother!". True story.. that's my favourite put down to the smug twats in 20-30 year partnerships, with 3 twatty spoilt children, who make snidey comments towards me and other singletons. I get the impression they said yes to the first one that came along, just to fit in with society... just to be able to confidently go to events with a "plus 1".

We're keeping it real... that's what I say anyway ;)
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Posted: 2014-10-04, 6:47 pm

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davey1800 wrote:
As long as regular women at home want to play their silly little games, then I have no hang-ups about paying for sex. How many times have you guys started dating a decent women who then started treating you like an idiot, constantly making demands, constantly wanting to know where you are (even during work time), constantly being a pain in the ass? Fuck that shit imo....

We weren't meant to settle down... society tells us to settle down. Why? For religious reasons back in the day, then consumer reasons now. If you don't settle down you won't buy a house. You won't buy a car. You won't buy consumer goods such as clothes all the time. Not as much anyway. But with a family then you're obliged to do all this. And the fat cats at the top are rolling in money whilst you're in debt like a servitudal pig.

Also, I say to my friends "Why would I want to live with an ugly fat cow, with more facial and ass hair than me, who bitches, moans, insults and demeans me... all without the regularity of sex as a consolation? If I wanted that, I'd go back home to my mother!". True story.. that's my favourite put down to the smug twats in 20-30 year partnerships, with 3 twatty spoilt children, who make snidey comments towards me and other singletons. I get the impression they said yes to the first one that came along, just to fit in with society... just to be able to confidently go to events with a "plus 1".

We're keeping it real... that's what I say anyway ;)



I half agree with you, tho would add that it isn't a gender thing. A lot of woman have the same opinion as above but in reverse.
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