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getting older
Posted: 2014-09-05, 10:39 pm

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ok, as you get older managing to come 3 and 4 times like when a teenager isnt going to happen!
Is there anything (harmless enough) that one can take to give a bit more life for a visit to RLD?
Not to get high. but to maybe manage a second or even 3rd encounter?
Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-06, 1:00 am

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geordie44 wrote:
ok, as you get older managing to come 3 and 4 times like when a teenager isnt going to happen!
Is there anything (harmless enough) that one can take to give a bit more life for a visit to RLD?
Not to get high. but to maybe manage a second or even 3rd encounter?

Perhaps not the answer you were looking for but you don't have to cum every session. In a typical trip of 4 days and around 6 or 7 sessions I will cum around 3 times. Deliberately avoiding it in afternoon sessions for example make evening ones far more enjoyable in my opinion. I could probably manage 5 or 6 orgasms in a trip and that's certainly what I used to do. I learnt that I like to be super horny for every session and in recent years I have been.
Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-06, 4:12 am

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geordie44 wrote:
ok, as you get older managing to come 3 and 4 times like when a teenager isnt going to happen!
Is there anything (harmless enough) that one can take to give a bit more life for a visit to RLD?
Not to get high. but to maybe manage a second or even 3rd encounter?




Extra High Strength Cod Liver oil
about 25mg Zinc
lots of Vitamin, B6, C, D & B12
Horny Goat Weed (For the libido boost.)
Cialis (For some seriously hard pipe.
Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-06, 6:25 am

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Or try this:

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Cialis

(sorry...I couldn't resist...just kidding around!)

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Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-06, 6:30 am

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More seriously testosterone levels *will* have an effect on libido, and will diminish with age. If you feel something is lacking you can always have your levels tested by your MD. If they are indeed low there are safe ways to raise that number...so to speak.

(It's been said before, but bears repeating, that cialis just has an effect on the plumbing that causes an erection...sort of a hydraulic booster...but it has no direct effect on desire. (Except it can boost confidence and self-esteem...and that may lead to more desire...)

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Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-06, 6:36 am

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Also...if you take SSRI's for depression or other mood disorders it can seriously mute libido. It varies highly from person to person. Alternatives like Wellbutrin, for example, don't mess with your serotonin and have fewer libido related side effects.

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Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-06, 3:42 pm

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neurosynth wrote:
More seriously testosterone levels *will* have an effect on libido, and will diminish with age. If you feel something is lacking you can always have your levels tested by your MD. If they are indeed low there are safe ways to raise that number...so to speak.

(It's been said before, but bears repeating, that cialis just has an effect on the plumbing that causes an erection...sort of a hydraulic booster...but it has no direct effect on desire. (Except it can boost confidence and self-esteem...and that may lead to more desire...)



Very true indeed, hence why I only suggested Cialis for the ''Hard pipe'' lol. I doubt their would be much wrong with his overall Testosterone levels? how old is he? levels obviously decline with age and continue to decline once past the age of 26 or so for the average man each year.

Likes of Horny Goat Weed? I am pretty sure would increase libido a fair amount at a later age. increases would only be around 40% which is a tiny increase of overall Testosterone levels, but it is that slight amount that would make 1 more ''Randy'' to put it bluntly.

Vitamin deficiencies? Zinc likes of Zinc and many other vitamin & minerals can effect desire of libido. That would be the first thing, I'd look at in terms of wanting to boost desire or performance. even going out in sunshine can raise testosterone levels a great deal.

I don't think their would be a Testosterone issue, as he's stated he want's to be able to go another round or so, with that being said, you can only look at ways to improve & aid rather than treat a Testosterone deficiency that simply hasn't occurred.
Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-06, 10:03 pm

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Well the bottom line is that one can't know their testosterone level without getting it measured. This fellow may or may not be below spec. Getting it measured does no harm other than the cost of the procedure. And once measured it opens the door to state-of-the-art calibrated meds rather than "horny goat weed" from who knows where.

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Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-07, 12:13 am

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Each to their own I guess. I personally wouldn't touch any of the shit mentioned with an extremely long barge pole.
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Posted: 2014-09-07, 12:37 am

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I'm very hesitant about any of this sort of stuff, myself. There's a grand tradition of snake oil salesmen trying to hawk miracle aphrodisiacs dating back thousands of years, and it's pretty consistently all been complete garbage at best, and poison at worst.

I did see a cocktail of natural minerals and supplements online a while back that was supposed to increase orgasm intensity and sexual pleasure and all that stuff. Consisted of things like zinc, argenine, lecithin, celery extract, and a couple other things. Decided to give a go because why not? Didn't do anything for me, but did give me severe diarrhea after a week or so, so there's that, I guess.

When it comes to my dick, outside of modern, tested pharmaceuticals, I trust someone about as far as I can throw them. Too many unscrupulous hucksters trying to make a quick buck off sugar water and magic herbs. Luckily, I haven't needed anything yet, I'm a bit of an anomaly in that at 31, my libido is substantially higher than it was as a young lad. I blame my ex blueballing me for a year and a half.
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Posted: 2014-09-07, 1:56 am

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grimnul wrote:
I'm very hesitant about any of this sort of stuff, myself. There's a grand tradition of snake oil salesmen trying to hawk miracle aphrodisiacs dating back thousands of years, and it's pretty consistently all been complete garbage at best, and poison at worst.

I did see a cocktail of natural minerals and supplements online a while back that was supposed to increase orgasm intensity and sexual pleasure and all that stuff. Consisted of things like zinc, argenine, lecithin, celery extract, and a couple other things. Decided to give a go because why not? Didn't do anything for me, but did give me severe diarrhea after a week or so, so there's that, I guess.

When it comes to my dick, outside of modern, tested pharmaceuticals, I trust someone about as far as I can throw them. Too many unscrupulous hucksters trying to make a quick buck off sugar water and magic herbs. Luckily, I haven't needed anything yet, I'm a bit of an anomaly in that at 31, my libido is substantially higher than it was as a young lad. I blame my ex blueballing me for a year and a half.


Hear Hear. It's all total bullshit and all you need do is really understand your own body. It's only when you are in your very old age and can't get it up any more that you might consider something like Viagra. Please don't put this other garbage in your bodies.
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Posted: 2014-09-07, 1:59 am

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neurosynth wrote:
Well the bottom line is that one can't know their testosterone level without getting it measured. This fellow may or may not be below spec. Getting it measured does no harm other than the cost of the procedure. And once measured it opens the door to state-of-the-art calibrated meds rather than "horny goat weed" from who knows where.




True. but why is one simply going to get their testosterone levels checked? OP clearly doesn't have low Testosterone, because the symptoms if he did, would be hard hitting and he probably wouldn't want/desire sex at all (which OP does, just wants an edge.) or be able to even maintain an erection and possibly be seriously depressed.

It opens a big door, for the likes of TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy) or a reboot therapy protocol. it's not going to do any harm getting checked, but to think he'd have an issue in that department. you don't just go lower than consider normal nmol levels. even with age.

Horny Goat Weed is a natural herbal extracts, kind of Tribulus (Harmless really) just proven natural extracts and what not, which is scientifically proven to increase libido. just look for the studies they are out there. Them sort of supplements are designed for men of an later age. hence why I briefly suggested it. for a couple of euro's would it not be worth a try even?

As for everything else I suggested, you can get that through Fruit & vegetables and just knowing good basic nutrition. Zinc deficiency is massive, it's very important for a man. it doesn't have to be some over the counter supplement. I can guarantee just simple changes and ensuring deficiencies are no longer present, would dramatically improve; performance, orgasms, volume and most of all desire.


Just my 2 pence.
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Posted: 2014-09-07, 2:10 am

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george47 wrote:
grimnul wrote:
I'm very hesitant about any of this sort of stuff, myself. There's a grand tradition of snake oil salesmen trying to hawk miracle aphrodisiacs dating back thousands of years, and it's pretty consistently all been complete garbage at best, and poison at worst.

I did see a cocktail of natural minerals and supplements online a while back that was supposed to increase orgasm intensity and sexual pleasure and all that stuff. Consisted of things like zinc, argenine, lecithin, celery extract, and a couple other things. Decided to give a go because why not? Didn't do anything for me, but did give me severe diarrhea after a week or so, so there's that, I guess.

When it comes to my dick, outside of modern, tested pharmaceuticals, I trust someone about as far as I can throw them. Too many unscrupulous hucksters trying to make a quick buck off sugar water and magic herbs. Luckily, I haven't needed anything yet, I'm a bit of an anomaly in that at 31, my libido is substantially higher than it was as a young lad. I blame my ex blueballing me for a year and a half.


Hear Hear. It's all total bullshit and all you need do is really understand your own body. It's only when you are in your very old age and can't get it up any more that you might consider something like Viagra. Please don't put this other garbage in your bodies.




That's to ensure you are healthy and not deficient in any key components, which could impact your sexual function & ability then?
Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-07, 4:20 am

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Youngstarz wrote:
That's to ensure you are healthy and not deficient in any key components, which could impact your sexual function & ability then?

Come on, do you really think this stuff is going to make any difference? In the east they have been killing rare animals for years thinking they will help libido. At the end of the day it's hocus pocus and the only thing that matters is what's in your head or Viagra to make you hard.
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Posted: 2014-09-07, 10:27 am

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george47 wrote:
Each to their own I guess. I personally wouldn't touch any of the shit mentioned with an extremely long barge pole.

I mostly agree. You can try it if things are really bad. If not too - better avoid.

The most important thing is nutrition. It should be proper and healthy all the year round, but if you cannot afford it or do not want to - just try to do it several days before and during the trip.
-do not drink much beer - it consist female hormones, slows down metobolism and also takes much water from your body, which is all not good for performance.
-do not eat fat food
-try to eat more proteins to fulfil your needs
-do not eat and drink too much
-try to include some products, which increase your performance, such as shrimps, celery, etc.
-try to start a day with several spoons of natural honey (not the shit they pack in small plastic cans, but the real farmer's one)
-try to support proper water balance in your body during a day - if you drink alcohol - drink plenty of water as long.
-watch porn before you go to RLD for a session)))
Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-07, 3:47 pm

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george47 wrote:
Youngstarz wrote:
That's to ensure you are healthy and not deficient in any key components, which could impact your sexual function & ability then?

Come on, do you really think this stuff is going to make any difference? In the east they have been killing rare animals for years thinking they will help libido. At the end of the day it's hocus pocus and the only thing that matters is what's in your head or Viagra to make you hard.



Are you serious? so, you state rather rudely it's all B.S an doesn't work? lol. No, it is not hocus pocus at all! do you think people randomly supplement e.g. Multivitamins, Fish Oils, Cod Liver Oils or best still aim to get the Key Vitamins & Minerals through the food they eat in their diet, for the hell of it? course not! for the purpose of optimal Health & wellbeing (That could be sexually too.)

TRT patients, who no longer administrate exogenous Testosterone, try and reboot and kickstart their own natural Testosterone production, with many other essential key Vitamins & Minerals (all clinically proven - studies are out there.) and use aiding drugs such as Clomid Citerate (Notorious for boosting Testosterone in old folks.) for absolutely nothing? of course not, they all have a purpose to restore the body back to homeostasis (Even passed that.) or nobody would bother and think anything that can aid/improve is just a load of B.S as you put. Deficiencies are a big cause to a LOT of problems or underlying issues. one of them simply being bedroom trouble.

Supplementing likes of Zinc at quiet a moderately high dose (20-25gs) will improve libido and performance to a GOOD noticeable degree. in combination with other (Vitamins & Minerals - Clinically Proven to do so.) also is relatively safe for most, anything above 30g isn't though! clinically proven, yet important mineral which should be in one's diet. a Zinc deficiency is definitely a great deal.


Essential role in our bodies.

It's involved in the production of at least 300 enzymes and lends a hand in hundreds of body processes, from producing DNA to repairing cells. The mineral even can help us sleep better at night, which provides a host of additional benefits.

Zinc became a household word as an ingredient in cold lozenges during the 1990s (or you may remember those sun screens from the 1980s that would turn noses white), but physicians and nutritionists have always known it's a mineral that's necessary for good health.

Zinc earns its stripes by promoting immune function to fight illness, supporting healthy cell growth and development, and ensuring a proper sense of taste and smell. It's especially important for men because of its role in maintaining prostate health, testosterone levels and overall sexual health. But since our bodies don't produce zinc, a daily intake is recommended to ensure healthy levels of this critical mineral.

The human body doesn't store zinc naturally, so it's important to make sure you get enough in your daily diet. The recommended daily allowance for men is 11 milligrams (for women it's 8 milligrams). Zinc is found in many popular foods, including meat and poultry, as well as oysters, beans, nuts, crab, lobster, whole grains, fortified breakfast cereals and dairy products.

Known formerly as "the ultimate sex mineral" zinc influences a man's fertility, potency, sex drive and long-term sexual health. Zinc is essential to sperm production, and most men can blame decreased semen volume and testosterone levels on low zinc supplies.


That's just Zinc let a loan, never mind anything else that plays a role & benefit.


**I am no longer going to continue to agree to disagree. Fact of the matter is OP is clearly looking for that little bit of an edge and I've clearly pointed out, feeding the body what it requires and ultimately needs to function accordingly, may just have an impact in him getting that edge.

That possibly even ''supplementing'' with likes of a Multivitamin (Providing diets in check and tweak adjustments.) could provide that edge he is looking for.

Hell even likes of Horny Goat Weed? why the hell not? a few euros for a possibly improved desire & performance that (May just not be there at this present in time, is not going to leave you out of pocket.) I said Cialis, being of the extreme end of the scale and that was just food for thought, that doesn't really seem to be the issue with what OP is asking here and I do agree with views on Cialis such posted.
Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-08, 12:18 am

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Cialis is not the extreme end of the scale, it's a different dimension. There is desire and there is the blood flow mechanism that creates an erection. The norm is to have both or neither at the same time. It's possible, however, to have one without the other. If there is desire without the blood flow mechanism to create an erection that's where Cialis or Viagara comes in. And yes, it's possible to have an erection without desire, and in cases where it lasts hours it's a serious medical condition.

Testosterone level lies on a continuoum, is easily measured, and if too low can be easily treated with pharmaceuticals. If it were me and I felt like I was lacking desire I'd have that checked first because it is a prerequisite to proper sexual function.

Checking the literature* what I found was that Zinc is important because it is in the testosterone production chain. If you are Zinc deficient you may then become testosterone deficient. Again, a testosterone level check can detect this. Zinc deficiency is rare in modern western societies for those eating a normal diet. Studies seem to show that ingesting high levels of zinc will have no, or a slightly diminishing effect, on desire. It can, however, extend the length of time it takes to reach climax.

*By literature I don't mean the innumerable hits you will get searching with google. The web is full of vendors hawking zinc, and some of them are even MDs. If you want to be a follower of the likes of Dr. Oz nobody will stop you.

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Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-08, 12:27 am

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I bought some zinc yesterday just for the hell of it, it was like 3 dollars for a bottle of 50mg.. I'm 29 and have no problems but I want to see if it ups my sex drive at all. I'll try it for a two weeks and let you know if I see a difference. After two weeks I land in Frankfurt wheres its milfs galore..I'll be the human guinea pig for Ignatzmice!
Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-08, 4:43 am

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Oh my!
I hesitate to get into these heated discussions, since solid science on this topic is thin at best.
The medical ethics community frowns on research programs designed to make one "better" than one would expect to be at a given age. There isn't enough time and money to conduct quality research on the great diseases of our time (diabetes, atherosclerosis, obesity, trauma...) Don't hold your breath waiting for the Mayo Guide to Sexual Prowess in Retirement.
A few points to consider:
Loopholes in the authority of the Food and Drug Administration allow products to avoid regulation and evaluation if they are a "dietary supplement". Hence, the wild proliferation and advertisement of these products.
Buyer beware. Past products at the fore of this wave include Selenium, Chromium, Leatrile....all fallen by the wayside.
Fat soluble vitamins (A and D) are LETHAL in high doses. Arctic expeditions at the turn of the last century were wiped out by Vitamin Toxicity from eating seal liver. Even water soluble vitamins that can be excreted in the urine can be dangerous in the extreme. Linus Pauling may have won the Nobel Prize (in chemistry, not medicine, by the way), but if you follow his advice on megadosing of vitamin C, expect kidney stones the size of bowling balls.
Human processing of metals is poorly understood. Many are known neurotoxins (mercury, lead). Advertising zinc as harmless seems unwise.
Water promotes health and well being. I've always wondered what wound happen if a product had to prove that it superior to drinking an extra 8oz of water a day. I'm afraid many advertised potions would fail. How many products market by "promoting well-being"? A low-set perfomance bar, if ever there was one.
Testosterone replacement/supplementation is in its infancy, promoted by the newfound ability to synthesize testosterone cheaply by drug companies. Have you seen the warnings in the package insert? It reads like it is for arsenic! Dangerous to growing children. Birth defects/miscarriage in exposed women. Disruption of normal hormone production. Increased incidence of several cancers (testicular), and accelerated growth of many more (prostate, breast)
Now that I have scared the shit out of you:
Exercise
Drink less alcohol
Lose some weight
Keep regular hours
Drink more water
Eat a balanced diet
Quit smoking
Stop dreaming that magic potions will be more effective than the list above!

Let the flaming begin!
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Re: getting older
Posted: 2014-09-12, 7:24 am

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So, funny story... I have a friend who writes for a sex blog. She reviews various toys, condoms, lube, and other miscellaneous sex-related products. As such, sex shops and websites send her random free stuff to test out all the time.

Well, she got a package a while back, and in it was this supplement, it's called Forta, comes in "for men" and a "for women" varieties. She brought a pack of the stuff over for me the other day, said her boyfriend loved the stuff. I looked it up and it seems to have fairly positive reviews, though that doesn't really hold a whole ton of weight with me. At the very least, I looked up all the ingredients individually, and none of them seem to be particularly dangerous.

It's a pack of ten pills. The pills supposedly last for 24-36 hours each. I figure I might as well take them on my next trip. Didn't cost anything, doesn't seem like it'll hurt me in any way (and if I feel any weird effects, I'm tossing them in the trash right away). I guess I'll let you guys know how it goes. I strongly suspect what I have is a package of ten evaporated snake oil pills, but I guess we'll see.
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