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Re: RLD Rip Offs - Is Amsterdam over as a sex destination?
Posted: 2015-08-20, 4:31 pm

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george47 said:

"You have made a very common mistake. There was an increase but not the 2.2x that you suggest. 50 Guilders was for just 10-12 mins and you had to choose between a suck OR fuck. "

George, I can assure you I have not made a mistake. Back in the day of the Guilder I was asking for suck & fuck and I was paying 50 Guilders for that. Once the Euro came in, I was paying 50 Euro for exactly the same service.

I always went for short sessions which were typically 15 mins max. The comparison in price between Guilder and Euro was for the same suck & fuck sub 15 min session.

I am not complaining, I was into short sessions. I craved the buzz of walking around, feeling horny, seeing a girl I liked and bang, 15 mins in and out. I much preferred short sessions, multiple times per my weekend stay.

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Re: RLD Rip Offs - Is Amsterdam over as a sex destination?
Posted: 2015-08-21, 3:54 am

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People talk about other places but from my limited experience and also reading reports the number of truly stunning women seems very low. Thailand is too far away and simply not convenient, Antwerp and Brussels had a few passables but I never saw anyone in Ghent, Haarlem, Den Haag, Utrecht or Alkmaar that made me want to keep returning. The FKKs sound like they have one or two that get swarmed over and the whole set up is not for me. Reports from Frankfurt RLD sound awful. 99% of the escort photos do not appeal to me and there's usually something wrong with the other 1%. Where are the Cookies, Mai Thais, Marys, Vanessas, Dianas in these other places? Add a KFC and a Wok 2 Walk and I will give up Amsterdam tomorrow.

tinovino wrote:
George, I can assure you I have not made a mistake. Back in the day of the Guilder I was asking for suck & fuck and I was paying 50 Guilders for that. Once the Euro came in, I was paying 50 Euro for exactly the same service.

It must have been in the cheaper areas like Molensteeg or with older less attractive girls. The norm (in the 90s) was suck or fuck and I never heard anything different between my first session in 1992 and the Euro coming in. The locals would have rioted if they had more than doubled prices.
Re: RLD Rip Offs - Is Amsterdam over as a sex destination?
Posted: 2015-08-23, 12:50 am

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hmmm...a couple quick notes...

I too remember 15 minute fuck AND suck sessions for 50 Guilders. Put another way, I don't recall ever having to choose one or the other, and that I would remember because I would not find just the one or the other satisfying.

Also...no matter how bad Amsterdam has become...and getting worse was inevitable when the local government decided to limit supply...it can't possibly be worse than the Hamburg RLD. And look how long Hamburg has retained its sex destination aura.

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Re: RLD Rip Offs - Is Amsterdam over as a sex destination?
Posted: 2015-08-26, 12:47 am

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The 50 guilders to 50 euros transition bumped up the girls profit margins overnight for the same services.
All my 50 G or Eu sessions since the mid 1980's were for a s and f and that happened automatically without any prompting (warm up s followed by the f to finish) often a short warm soapy wash at the sink too.
It has only been in fairly recent years, maybe the last 7 or 8, that this either / or and the upsell has become more prevalent and irritating too - what ever is agreed at the door should be adhered to.
Don't know if it is the change in the nationality of the girls more recently and how they think about business, also wonder if those who are 'looking' after them is driving the more mercenary approach to extra money?
I'm heading towards the Singel these days for a more relaxed atmosphere and decent value for money, still plenty of good eye candy in the main areas though.
Just my two penneth :-)
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Re: RLD Rip Offs - Is Amsterdam over as a sex destination?
Posted: 2015-08-26, 3:29 am

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Wow, sometimes I really think I visit another Amsterdam to some of you guys. I'd love to go back in time and see where all those 50 F & S girls were. Never came across one personally though I wasn't around in the 80s. In the nighties most of my sessions were an hour or more at 300 each hour.
Re: RLD Rip Offs - Is Amsterdam over as a sex destination?
Posted: 2015-08-26, 4:07 pm

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George47 - my sessions for 50 Guilder (suck & fuck) were in the prime spots of Tromp, Goldeberger and Sint Annenstraat as well as others and they were with top quality girls (lookswise and body). It was early 90s, I was a young lad in my early 20s and I was only looking for short sessions with stunning girls and would pay no more than 50G. It was plentiful, most girls offered this.

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Re: RLD Rip Offs - Is Amsterdam over as a sex destination?
Posted: 2015-08-26, 4:55 pm

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Yeh, I too remember the good old days of 50 guilders for S&F in the 80's and early 90's.
There were still some rip offs here and there but it seems to be much more common today.
BBBJ was on offer by most, AIDS did not yet exist (not that AIDS is likely from a BJ anyway), but that seemed to be when things changed, understandably I guess.
De Wallen was very different back then, way better IMO, not only the sex but also the atmosphere.
I don't even bother going anymore, Singel and De Pijp are way better IMO.
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