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Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-05, 5:57 pm

beautySeeker
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I am traveling to europe next week for a 4 week adventure. I am really looking forward to the amsterdam leg. Anyway, on to the topic.

I have run into an opportunity that I need to decide whether to capitalize on and would appreciate some feedback and perspective.

I have been in communication with a very reputable escort agency that has presented an unexpected opportunity to have a session with an upcoming porn star. I initially passed on three girls presented with photos stating they were not young enough or pretty enough. She replied with two more options. One of the options was this porn star. The agency said that she was a university student and an upcoming porn star. I have seen 10+ posts stating that this agency is one of the most reputable agencies in the city.

Forgive me but I don't want list her name at this point. I will post the information once I secure a reservation or pass on her.

Here is how I see the pros and cons of the situation:

Pro:

She is 18 or 19 (and I like them young)

She is an upcoming porn star that has been in 5-10 high end porn movie scenes (according to DVD web site bio information)

The agency charges 100 euro per hour and she was presented as an option. I might be able to get the 1 hour incall minimum or I might need to go with the 2 hour minumum. I am at the stage
where the agency has asked me whether I would like to schedule an appointment.

Con:

She is fairly attractive but not a stunner (maybe a 7.5) and I am real picky.

I have been having trouble resolving the std issue and what activities I am comfortable engaging in. On one hand I lose so much enjoyment by giving up DFK and BBJ but on the other hand woman engaing in these activities are quite likely to pass it along to me. Frustrating.

More specific to this situation, I performed a web search and came across the following article which seams to imply the high rate of std's within the porn community (although it is a few years old). I can certainly pass on risky behavior but with high risk partners std's such as herpes, etc is still a risk due to mistakes or stupidity on my part.
http://www.courttv.com/talk/chat_transc ... chell.html

This is ultimately my descision but maybe you can provide some perspective regarding how good of a deal this is, how cool is a porn star experience, how paranoid am I about stds. I can then weigh your feedback and make a final descision.

Any information, advice, experience, or perspective would be greatly appreciated.

On a side note, I would probably be fairly content limiting my activitie to kissing but even dry kissing can reuslt in herpes. I know that oral herpes is fairly common in the population and probably not a big deal but I haven't really crossed that bridge of making more intimate contact part of my punting encounters.

Do most FKK punters just participate in DFK and accept having oral herpes?

Statistically how likely is it to capture oral herpes from a girl by engaging in DFK? Dry kissing?
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-05, 7:10 pm

Frans Hals
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I think you are way overintellectualizing this. I diagnose long term sexual frustration. Look, there is no point getting involved in anything that you don't feel 100% comfortable with. You won't enjoy it at all.

We all have our boundaries, although not necessarily all the same. No one can guarantee you that you absolutely will not get oral herpes from a sexual encounter, although taking some precautions like asking the girl if she has a history of herpes, does she take medication for it, making a visual inspection of the clitoral area for possible herpes lesions and/or scarring etc., etc. might reduce your risk of exposure. Herpes won't kill you, but if you are married you might suffer a fate worse than death.

Go out and grab a few window girls or escorts without giving it too much thought. Fuck three or four in a day, or until you have pussy fatigue, then come back to reconsider the porn star dilemma with a clear head. Suddenly it will all seem so obvious.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-05, 9:39 pm

beautySeeker
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Your diagnose is accurate. I do have long term sexual frustration. I am so picky I am not wiilling to even consider pursuing a girl unless she is 18-21 and really hot but these woman are out of my reach as they are for most of use. I have pinned myself in a corner. I'm not married.

Sorry, I really got off topic a bit with the frustration and std angles although I am interested in the likelyhood in contracting oral herpes with 1) DFK 2) Dry kissing. Do the punters that participate in these activities regularly have oral herpes and don't care or can you virtually eliminate the risk with visual inspection, dry kissing, other?

I'm really looking for others that have had porn star experiences to share whether thier experience with a porn star was better or different in some way (or not). Was it special because she was a porn star. I suppose it would be if you had the hots for the actress but other than that?

Also is the price I expect to pay sounds relatively low compared to other posts I have seen doing a search. Is it unusualy to find a 'porn star' experience for this price? I may not want to pass it up in this case because I wouldn't pay $500-$1000.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-05, 11:00 pm

Frans Hals
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I have done DATY with a number of women and uncovered sex with a few and I don't have herpes, AIDS or anything else, but the more frequently one takes these risks, the greater the risk--therefore I hesitate to offer advice to others.

A 'porn star' is nothing but a woman who has participated in filmed sex. Most porn films are pathetically boring and bear little resemblance to real sex. You might have great sex with her, or you might have lousy sex with her. It really all depends whether she is into you or not (and the same goes for every other woman you might have sex with.) In my opinion it is not worth paying one cent more for a woman who is a 'porn star'.

I think it was Rousseau who said that a woman of 40 has the same body as a woman of 20 if you leave out the face. I'm not sure that this is very accurate, but I do think that if you get 'stuck in' and have sex with a variety of women without being too selective, you will find that all kinds of women can offer a good sexual experience and that you will feel much better about sex in the end. Take a bit of Viagra and just let the reptilian brain take over. Live, be passionate, fuck the shit out of the nearest woman.

Just for the record, I am 54, and don't drink alcohol, smoke, or do drugs. I am reasonable looking and a few pounds overweight. I have had sex with about 70 women over the last 2 years. They have varied from 18 years of age to 43, and from absolutely gorgeous to downright frumpy. Out of these I would say that about 1/4 have been absolutely brilliant, ecstatic, passionate sex, 1/2 have been perfectly adequate enjoyable, fun sex, and about 1/4 not really worth paying for, or downright useless. I have not really noted any correlation between good sex and age or looks, though when it comes to selecting a steady girlfriend, you do want someone that will look good on your arm, make other men envious etc. and for whom you feel a special affection.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-05, 11:18 pm

Frans Hals
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Loveseeker

I do not mean in any way to denigrate you, and please bear in mind that anything I write here is written not just for you, but in the hope that my experience (such as it is) may be of benefit to anyone who reads this.

However, terms like "reputable escort agency" and "high end porn" have more to do with salesmanship than anything else. An escort agency is a pimping service, and porn is people having sex on camera. High end porn is people having sex on camera in period costume.

If she is only $100 euros, the worst thing that can happen to you is that you lose your $100 euros, unless that fee is just for the agency and then the girl tries to upsell you on much more expensive services--which I think is possible. If you have her for an hour for only $100 euros, I can't see how the agency is making much money and even if they are reputable, I doubt whether they are in the business wholly for philanthropic reasons.

It sounds like you are pretty new to this, and the only real advice I can give is stay within your comfort zone and do not carry with you any more money than you are prepared to spend on that day--no credit cards etc. These people you are dealing with, "reputable" or not , will be operating well within their comfort zone and in their home territory, and you will probably be ill at ease and at a disadvantage, besides being in a state of sexual tension.

My gut feeling is that you are doomed to disappointment in this scenario, but please find me wrong and post your findings here.

My advice again is just go out and bang the first few girls you see for orientation purposes.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-05, 11:50 pm

beautySeeker
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No offense taken I appreciate the feedback.

I live in the US near Tijuana so I have a ton of experience punting over the past 20 years but not with more intimate punting activities since they are strict about these activities in TJ.

I used the terminology "reputable escort agency" meaning they have a reputation of delivering what they claim. I used the term "high end porn" to characterize the movies I saw her in as higher budget movies as opposed to less commercial porn although it doesn't really matter.

I don't have alot of experience dealing with escort agencies though. I suppose there are all kinds of bait and switch games going on. I will take your advice and be carefull. So far I have confirmed all of the fees, services, etc. In general I tend to be overly carefull but I have had my moments of poor judgement as well.

You give good advice for everyone to stay in thier comfort zone as they learn about new cities and new experiences. For example, I typically do not travel out at night in a foriegn city unless I am really familiar with where I am going and where the 'bad' areas of town are.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-06, 12:50 am

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Just my opinion...but you need more risk in your life...
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-07, 5:10 am

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And my opinion is "take no risks". I've thorougly enjoyed my 7 or RLD experiences, but would never take an unprotected risk . You'll regret it forever.

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Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-07, 8:21 pm

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I was more responding to his last sentence than anything...
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-07, 11:20 pm

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'100 euro per hour' seems low for a porn star. Would wave a warning flag for me.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-08, 6:25 am

beautySeeker
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I did recieve some more information on this porn star saga:

First , they said I could not get a 1 hour incall it would have to be a 2 hour outcall. So it would be 200 euros for the session.

Most interestingly I have been communicating with two agencies in this particular city.

Agency 1 is the agency that presented a girl named Eve who was a university student and a porn star. They sent me a link to her bio but no personal photos.

Later, Agency 2 sent me an email that said they had a new girl named Eve who was 21. They included pictures of her.

Strangely the 6 pictures were a mixture of this 21 year old Eve and the same porn star. Now I know the porn star recently turned 19 so these pictures are not the same girl. Additionally, the agency never mentioned the porn star. When I called her on it she said they are two different girls with the same name.

It looked like either the girl was trying to promote herself as this porn star or the agencies were being less than honest. I suppose there could be an explanation but this bass is not swallowing that worm. She isn't really that attractive anyway and I don't want to spend the 200-250 euros.

Thanks for eveyones feedback.

A side note, I understand it is conservative to avoid venturing out alone in a foriegn city at night but one night I made the mistake of not knowing the neighboorhood I was in and ended up getting mugged and choked unconscious by three guys. To be honest that experience has encouraged me to be more conservative for better or worse.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-08, 4:44 pm

Frans Hals
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Beautyseeker

There is/was in late 2003 a girl called Eve who works in the RLD windows who is Caucasian (Dutch, I think) and around the right age--she would be about 19 or 20 now. Some have called her a Liv Tyler lookalike. (It is a real disadvantage that you can't post pictures on this site--I guess it has something to do with conserving storage space--but you can look for a picture in Google images.) You can probably read about her in the device. She may be the same girl, or she may not. There have been Eves around since the Garden of Eden. The one in question has a leopard spot tattoo on her thigh.

If it is the same girl, she is utterly worthless, trust me. She smokes too.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-08, 6:07 pm

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Am I right in guessing that the agencies are not located in the Netherlands? Maybe eastern Europe? If so, you may have saved yoourself a few Euros.

Would you share the name of the agencies so that others may be extra cautious?
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-09, 2:55 am

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I don't really understand why sex with a porn star would be any more risky than sex with a regular escort? A porn star that escorts offers the same services as a normal escort, it's not like she'll fuck bareback with a stranger.

If anything I'd assume it was slightly safer to be with a porn star since they've got to do regular test to be able to work in porn and if there's a HIV case like the recent one in Hungary in the industry you'll hear about it

200 euros for 2 hours sounds like a good price for an escort in Amsterdam, porn star or not. Of course, if the agency tries to sell you a "porn star" experience they should at least be able to tell you her stage name so you could do a google search for more info on her yourself,.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-09, 7:20 am

beautySeeker
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I apologize for not initially posting the details.

Here are the details:

The two agencies are in Budapest Hungary - http://www.fortunescort.com/ and http://www.aphroditehostess.hu/. The former will charge 200 euro and the latter 250 euro for a two hour session with the same porn star - If the offers are real.

The porn star offered is Yvette Balcano.

I'm not sure whether porn stars would be safer than other escorts providing similar services. It is an interesting question. The agencies claim they require all thier girls to participate in monthly std screenings.

The url I found with the Sharon Mitchell interview appeared very reliable because she was in a position to provide accurate statistics on std frequencies. The numbers reported looked really bad to me assuming the required monthly checkup policy was in place at that time. Also several of the video samples I saw of Yvette Balcano involved anal without condom. These items both concerned me.

I leave on my 3.5 week trip to Europe this sunday.

My tenative itinery is:

Sept 12-13 in Prague, Czech Republic
Sept 14-17 in Krakow, Poland
Sept 18-20 in Budapest, Hungary
Sept 21-22 in Prague Czech Republic
Sept 23-26 in Amsterdam, Netherlands
Sept 27-28 in Brugge, Belguim
Sept 29-Oct 4 in Amsterdam, Netherlands

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In addition to ignatzmice.com worldsexguide.info was a useful resource.

In scoping out these locations, here is my hit list:

Prague appeared to have alot of options with attracted girls.

1) **Mona is my primary target in prague

http://www.a-class-escort.com/podnik_detail.php?id=9

AGENTURA RED ROSSE
phone: TEL 00420 721176228
email: r.rosse@seznam.cz
location: praha 1
price: 100 euro 1 hour

Patricia 19, Rosalie 19, Benjimina 20, Carmen 20

http://www.a-class-escort.com/podnik_detail.php?id=7

AGENTURA M+M
TEL+420607210946
praga 1
Price: 80 euro
email: escortservis@seznam.cz

mona, 19, blonde, really hot body

**They are really the same agency. I called both and got the same operator elena.
She said the girls can visit any hotel, it's not a problem.

She said that carmen was attractive.

**When I mentioned Mona she said she looked like a nice 15,16 year old student. I said is
she pretty. She said yes.

Cost is 100 euro + 20 euro for taxi. classic sex + CBJ is included. DFK is 20-30 euro
depending on the girl.

**Note that RED ROSSE web site states 100 euro and M+M web site says 80 Euro. Is this becuase
of the atractiveness of the girls? Make sure mona is attractive and 80 Euro.

2) http://www.k5relax.com
email: info@k5relax.com
phone: +420 224 250 505, +420 224 250 606

500 entrance (which can be waived if you pick a girl within about 15 min)

3900 Kc for 1 hour ($160) and 2400 Kc for 30 minutes ($90)

Use AAA taxi Service or K5 is walkable from Wencelas square in about 20 mins.
metro A (green line) mustek stop near hotel to namesti miru stop (g8 on map) to korunni 5

Thier rep is that the manager takes great care in finding girl for you per your tastes

*Email and then call to target 18, blonde, drop dead gorgeous, kissing - try to get pictures
via email if they can do that

3) www.fkk-prague.cz, nella blonde 19 (from moscow) and adela 22 were both recomended
phone: +420 234 095 666
email: info@fkk-prague.cz

FKK prices were 500 entrance fee, 2200 60 min or 1800 30 min, 500 per extra (kissing/bbj),
taxi service 200 1 way (call them to arrange)

Entrance fee includes showers, sauna, swimming pool, scheduled erotic shows, dinner buffet 6pm- 9pm

The web site has nice pictures of some girls and the place

2 Posts say michelle is a beautiful blonde with excellent service - maybe go if she is there

posts also say only 5-8 there so need to confirm michelle will be there first

*Email them about schedule of specific girls (lola 18 and other young pretty)

4) Sex Park is about 1000czk (I think), rep is some hot girls, cold service

Metro A (Red Line) stop Vltavska (B8 on map) is a few hundred yards away

Tram #5 from Wenseles square (f7 on map - red box 30) stops very close to sex park

**It might be ok. The girl I had last time there was really hot. She might be cold
but if she is young and hot $40 is way less than the other options. Maybe I could
try this my first day there if I feel up to it. A low cost low pressure way to start.

5) Petra Escort

http://www.escort-petra.cz/index.php3?lang=eng

Phone: +420 604 152 470
email: info@privat-petra.cz

**The operator tried to be nice but didn't want to spend alot of energy recommending
girls although she did mention Dana (da na), petra, and a few others as pretty. She
wanted me to choose based on web site.

**Based on Web site Dana(blonde)(21), Natalka(20), Michalka(21) (these two look like
sisters - black hair), Lucinka(blonde)(20), Lenka(21)(tight body and dark skin)

**The advantage is that they only cost 70 euro + taxi

6) Linda, 18, hotacelinda@celinda@centrum.cz, 776 168 017 (her english #)

Ace prive 420 776 895 206

**776 168 017 (english)

Reference from worldsexguide.info

ace prices listed at ignazmice.com post were 1200czk, 300czk per extras

http://www.escort.cz/v03/result_e.php?L ... sult_e.php

go to escort.cz, select establishments, search for ace, select map link
(andrea and alex look real nice too)

f11 on map, close to Jincinka just north of Flora blue line metro stop

**another post says thier prices are now 1500cz per hour and the guy that runs the place speaks
perfect english. This is still much cheaper if you have solid evidence of a girl and you are willing
to take the metro to get there.

**If we can get Linda (18) this might be a good option because several posts say she's great and the price
is $60 or so. Andrea (blonde 19) has a nice body but we have to trust thier opinion about her.

Post 1:

My personal favorite : ACE private. And I met a guy some place else who had the same
opinion about it. In particular about Linda there. I should not be so precise because
now she might become busy all the time ! But this is let say my present to the forum.

Post 2:

Regular prices in privates are 1500 czk for half an hour and 2000 one hour.
Any additionnal services has a value : BJ without : 500 , anal 1000 czk, etc ...
This is already mentioned in this forum and also on www.escort.cz.
(1500 = $60)

Post 3:

This post said there were 3 very bad girls there - only use if arange specific girl before arrive

Note: Don't take a shower without your money|wallet some guy lost 100 euro at ace although
he wasn't sure he lost it there.

*Email them to verify everything

7) Vanessa, 20, Angela blonde 23, Carmen 23

http://www.prague-bunnies.com +420-608-354901 (10:00 - 22:00 C.E.T.) +420-774-777710 (10:00 - 22:00 C.E.T.)

From what I've read on other boards, they are supposed to be pretty good and reliable agency
That Vanessa is a well known porn actress. Seen her in loads of hard core dvds..

can send question via good request form on the site
(2nd option email - office@prague-bunnies.com)

*Nadja is 28 but says she use to be a catwalk model. She looks pretty hot. We can't see face
but it says we can request pictures of her

*See thier terms and conditions, they sound like they would be helpfull

*Email them probably first to figure out how to arrange something - tell them I'm interested
in vanessa but other girls as well. Thier form shows 2hr as the min appt length, ask about 1 hr
and we need to know about prices.

**I think they only take 2 hour minimum sessions based on thier web site appt form.

8) CLEOPATRA ESCORT
Petra 21, blonde and Monika 19, blonde and Zuzana 20, blonde and Barbora 21
phone: 00420 604 749 179 back
Podnik:
E-mail: escortcleopatra@seznam.cz

*Email to get pictures with face, price, etc

9) AGENCY AURELI ESCORT
SANDI 19, blonde
TEL 00420 607103950
E-mail: aureli.e@seznam.cz

*Email to get pictures with face, price, etc

10) TIFFANI ESCORT

Sydney 22, blonde
phone: 00420 720 595 127
email: tiffani.escort@seznam.cz
price: 100

*Email to get pictures with face, price, etc

11) ESCORT GO HOME
karol 22, blonde and Klara 21 brunette and zuzana 24 brunette
E-mail: escortgohome@seznam.cz
Phone: 00420 720 595 124

*Email to get pictures with face, price, etc

12) City Escort
Phone: +420 777 903 540
E-mail: info@escortcity.cz
Janicka 19 blonde and Kamila 20 brunette (both look hot)

*Email to get pictures of Kamila and verify these are real recent pictures

13) http://www.sweetparadise.cz/ - lower priced club, some girls look ok

30 min 1700 czk, 60 min 2200 czk

escort.cz establishment forums say happy hour is 1000czk ($40), site says happy hour is 12:00-20:00

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Krakow looked inexpensive but frustrating because I couldn't find any escorts that would speak english. There were alot of places that you could visit but I couldn't really select a top quality girl ahead of time.

1) Proton

ul. Kawalryjska 16 (Podgorze)
80 zl./half hour, 100 zl./hour.
http://www.proton.krakow.pl
phone 1: (012) 656-07-21
phone 2: (0501)755-306
map on site shows take krakowska across river wista turns into legionow, turn right at Kawalryjska, right there
my map shows this is south east of centre across river wista south of Kazimierz
posts indicated just keep going up the hill to the top.

Had a great time there, place was hard to find. All I can tell you is keep going to the top!
Met a really cute blonde, late 20s, and hit it off for a long session. She was tall and
Polish. I’d go back there in a heartbeat – place beat out most clubs I’ve ever been to, but
I think this was more a case of YMMV. I don’t know who works when, but I had a blast with my
girl. Stayed 2 hours. 2 pops and 3 vodkas – sweet!

2) Lola

ul. Sw. Katarzyny 4 (Kazimierz)
150 zl./hr.

Post 1:

I got there and found it full of waiting guys, an older lady explained the girls were working
and would be available soon. She was very nice, but I really didn’t feel like standing in
line to screw a girl. Must be some nice girls though, to be so busy. So I will be back to
check it out if I return.

Post 2:

(10 min walk from proton which wasn't open for him at 9pm)

There where 5 girls working, 4 around 20-25 y.o. and one older but all of them really good looking.
I chosen a brunette with big breasts (Karla) and went to a room (1 hour 200 PLN - approx. 50 Eur).
Really enjoiable time, after a shower together she did (without asking) oral without condom sucking
like a vaccum machine, then "forced" me to lick her pussy as deeply as possible, and the we had fucking.
After first session she massaged me and then we had sex again.
Vote: 9

Second night I went there again, 2 new girls (Karla did not work) I approached Dorotha, 19 y.o. from Belarus,
incredibly beautiful with brown long hair and green eyes. I think one of the most impressing experiences for
me. First sentence she said in the room was "you now are mine for one hour".
Vote 10


3) Night Club 24

ul. Topolowa 24
120 zl. (50 Euro)/hour.
http://www.nightclub24.prv.pl
tel. (012) 429 49 99
map on site show Topolowa is parrallel to main street Lubicz, go down Rakowicka and turn right on Topolowa
my map shows this is north east of centre pretty close to Park Strzelecki

Went here late Saturday night. Found two chatty blonde Polish beauties. Funny, I came to
Krakow looking for Russians/Ukrainians but I couldn’t find any, just Polish girls. Took the
less chatty of the two girls, a short 5’4” Polish hottie with short blonde/brown hair and a
great butt. We went downstairs, had a shower and a romp, included CBJ, cowgirl, mish, doggie.
Finished in mish. This girl was a real kitty kat – meyow.


4) A-Studio

ul. Semperitowcow 17
basic 100 zl./hour (BBBJ/DATY +50 zl. each)
Girls hit and miss.
http://astudio.fm.interia.pl
tel. (0-12) 421 38 74

map on site shows location but I can't tell where it is on my map

5) Black & White

ul. Westerplatte 2
120 zl./hour
Girls ok. Gosia ist quite nice.
Also porno theater/strip club. Closes relatively early, 21:00/22:00 depending on they day.

6) Dluga Street #50 is the best place - sign says Masaze & it has a red heart. 80 Zlottys for a BJ & sex
. . .Best deal I've seen in Europe yet people!

I went for a blonde, tanned, and she did me right. And I am pretty picky. I have walked in and out from
about 30 places in Europe so far on this tour wihtout having a hit. So check this one out.

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Budapest was disapointing. I really wanted to see Netti but the agency said she is not working there anymore. There are a few good escprt agencies but they require 2 hour minimums. There were many independent providers but I tried to call many of them but they did not speak english. I even tried to translate my emails into hungarian with text translation software but I didn't get any response from these emails either.

0) Netti, blonde, 20 - Gorgeous, Fantastic body, DFK, DATY, BBBJ
http://www.zuzana.tv/wm.asp?T=FXhaSEw5V ... V%3A0%3AUS
(reviews pretty good)
*she is really, really, hot - we must contact and find price (she speaks english)

**don't see here there anymore and the girls there are 450 euro for 2 hours

*Email the general contact web page form to find out how I can get in contact with netti to
verify details. Also will I be able to arrange a meeting without a cell phone which thier
form requires when an appointment is made. See thier legal link.

*We must verify price, meeting arrangements, these are recent pics her. Make sure there is not
a fee for meeting her and then when I show up I get charged a bunch extra.

*Consider some of the other girls

1) violetta, 20, http://www.fortunescort.com/

tel: +36 30 931-1724, +36 30 604-4319
email: fortunmail@fortunescort.com

Violetta is not on site now, yveete looks ok

*Email them for young girl options since they appear reputable (claim pics on site are real and good posts)

I was also over in Budapest recently. Below a reputable city privat and escort service wrth checking out.

2) Business Sauna Club - http://www.szaunaclub.com/

**too expensive 90k huf for 2 hours.

1074.Budapest, Csengery u.26. 06-20/9999-516. bsc@szaunaclub.com.
corner of Csengery and joslka, se corner of j8 on map, 3 blocks down from the house of terror

I wanted to try this great szaunaclub. I was really excited by Ebauche post.
I called but they wanted 90.000 HUF for 2 hours and although i was tempted, I couldn't afford it
(no special "february" offer I'm afraid.

I got the advice here to go to "Business Sauna Club" ... Once Inside I was greeted
by a sweet brunette and was showed to the locker room. I slipped into the bathrobe.
Down with the girl to the bar and the menue ... One girl was 80 Euro for one hour.
Extras was 20 Euro per thing, like uncovered, do oral to her anal etc. So I asked
which of them who did uncovered blowjobs and they all did.

Recently opened, maybe 9 months ago, as Budapest’s answer to an FKK and bad/expensive service
otherwise available in the city. Website/brochure pricing is much higher than any deal I was offered,
but they seemed to be having a "January special." Actual scheme was this - 12K HUF for one girl for
one hour, plus extras. Extras were 4K HUF per extra, per girl. Lots of petting, caressing, cuddling,
CBJ and straight intercourse are included in base price. A la carte extras include kissing (very
thorough and sensual DFK), BBBJ, bodyshots, lesbian show, anal, CIM, etc.
(12k huf == $60)

*This is enough information - we can call when we are there for young girl request

3) http://www.szexmost.hu/szex.html, email szexmost@tvn.hu

I talked to several but english was a problem so I emailed szexmost@tvn.hu

a) Niki, 18, top choice, lang=german, 06-20-421-64-95 (got voice mail)
b) Nicole, 20, lang=british, 06-20-457-06-94
c) Moni, 22, lang=british, 06-20-245-61-53
d) Kata, lang=british, 06-20-590-54-37, talked to + nice + couldn't speak enough english
e) Nina, 21, lang=british, 06-20-581-91-89, talked to + no english
f) Sonja, 21, lang=english
g) Dori, 18, body looks hot but can't see face, 06-20-446-78-20
h) Linda, 22, lang=british, 06-20-463-07-58, talked to but coudn't speak english

*Email to verify info about niki and maybe get pictures of others

4) redzone.hu, select girls then young (see map for district)

I used the online link at bottom of page and sent them post with my email address

a) Dia, top choice, Tel: +36-70-588-1048
b) Bridget Tel: +36-20-226-8283 district 5 (same as Brigi at callgirl.uw.hu)
c) Vivian, Tel: +36-70-588-1048
d) Simy, Tel: +36-70-599-0023, district 7
e) Sandra, Tel: +36-70-297-4491

5) http://callgirl.uw.hu/

**The problem with the sites|girls below is that we can't email so we can't verify the pictures
or see thier faces => not very usefull.

a) Brigi, brunette, 22, can see face at bottom of good reviews, 20-226-8283
b) Ariel, blone, 21, can see face, good reviews, 70-258-12-64
c) Angi, blonde, 22, large breats, good reviews, 20-238-9640
d) Dia, from 4) is on this site also

*The problem here is that we can't email ahead of time

6) www.rosszlanyok.hu - select young girls

a) lisa 19, top choice, very good reviews, 36/30/585-1257 (called got wrong number), lisacska85@freemail.hu (not on site)
b) lilla 20, not as good reviews, +36/70/589-3401
c) ariel, same as callgirl.uw.hu, +36/70/258-1264
d) adrienne, 24, good reviews, +36/70/616-1737
e) Viki, no reviews, 20, says very pretty face, +36/20/398-4963

*The problem here is that we can't email ahead of time

7) http://www.pannonescort.com
a) Alexa, real cute and large natural breasts, Tel: 06-30-963-3541, id=5627, uiz@freemail.hu (all same email)
a) Edina, hot but I think the photos are fake, Tel: 06-30-227-2824 (not on site)

8) http://www.paradicsom.com
a) Carmen, hot but looks fake
b) Niki, hot but looks fake

*They have no email or phone to contact anyway

8) http://szextunderek.hu/toplista/index.php?

9) http://www.aphroditehostess.hu/main.php ... ge=english

email:office@aphroditehostess.hu
cell: 36(20)470-5760

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Amsterdam you all know better than I do.

NAME: Walletjes
DEVICE: Mellisa18, blonde, dutch from last year (she doesn't have a recent post. may not be there)
Louise, Brunette, dutch, 18 - A few window down from the Moulin Rouge
Roxanna, blonde, 20, fantastic nipples and both lips - on the corner Sint Annendwarsstraat
Linda (Pol), brunette, 20, Dollebegijnensteeg - Kamer 9-3, 3rd on right when walking from
Sexy Land. Young innocent smile, B cup natural tits, shoulder length plus light brown hair,
think Lolita. Top off for 50, lovely natural breasts. Then asked which position I wanted -
there was only on answer "on top" - just had to check out those lovely tits more closely,
I was able to use my hands and my face - yoh! She rode me like a tiger, giving all her
youthfull energy to the situation
Diana, 19, Stoofsteeg - Opposite Cafe de Stoof, a few windows down. Blonde, petite. I like the
younger looking girls. She looks about 16, great body and nice to talk too.
Sasha#2, 20, blonde, Dollebegijnensteeg - kamer #4-5. A perfect, all-natural 10
Natalia, blonde, 22, between 70 and 90 on Cassa Rosso side of Oz Achterburgwal.
Gorgeous, young Russian woman. Was wearing white top with checkered school girl skirt.
Saw her in kamer on a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday afternoon. Head turner, hard to miss.


NAME: Club Bianca
LOCATION: It's to the west of vondelpark. from central station take tram 1 to overtoom.
follow overtoom and it turns into amstelveenseweg and just go down to number 145.
NOTES: Rep of only hiring hot young girls and DFK, bbj, etc included
150 euros for an hour; 100 for half hour. expensive, yes, but the girls were the
best i have seen in a prive
DEVICE: Lola, blonde, 24, does everything DFK, BBJ, DATY
Only 2 girls listed but alot of posts about hot young girls

NAME: Park 118 (i11 on map)
LOCATION: Sarphatipark 118, tel: 020-672-3022
From Centraal Station take the #25 Tram to Tweede Van der Helstraat. It's the 9th
stop. There's less walking now as the reroute of the 25 due to Metro construction
has it stopping in the same block as Park 118 instead of a long block away, about
15 min.
Verify the directions because I think I saw somewhat different directions in forum.
NOTES: Watch steps at entrance, very friendly place with nice rooms, age and beauty of girls
vary alot. By far the most mentioned place in forums.
DEVICE: Melissa, Dutch, blonde, 22
Jennifer, Brazilian, 22

NAME: Asmara
LOCATION: 70 Willem De Zwijgerlaan, tel: 020-618-4069,
tram #12 or #13 off at W. de Zwijgerlaan stop
cross the street and head a short two block walk down the rows of housing buildings.
You will find Asmara on the right, a wooden door on the corner facing the road
NOTES: Asmara typically has between two and five girls working. They almost always have
young girls
(many Dutch, some Moroccan). Starts with oily body massage. No drinks available
but with as many young beauties as typically on offer it hardly seems a problem.
Device: No young with recent reports

NAME: Vienna Massage (http://www.vienna.nl, nice room pics and directions)
LOCATION: Rijnstraat 224, tel: 020-612-3444, 10 am - 11 pm
tram 25 towards President Kennedylaan, all the way to the last station. The white
door of Vienna Massage is very discrete (just a small gold plate) and easy to miss.
So remember the street name and door number.
NOTES: Massage and Sex, comprehensive menu
FORUM 1) Massage options are for 45 minutes,, can extend !
Massage without Sex 50E-75 E
Massage with BJ - Around 75-100E
Massage with BJ and Sex Around 100E
Massage with BJ, Sex, and DATY (i.e. Shower Room) Around 125E
Massage with BJ, Sex, DATY and Jacuzzi Tub (option #7) 135E
DEVICE: Didn't have any listed under 25 years old

NAME: PLanet Happy Garden (PHG)
LOCATION: ICE amsterdam to dusseldorf, train to krefeld(30 min), train to Kempen, taxi 6 km to PHG
train amsterdam to venlo, train venlo to vierson, taxi to PG 17 euro
post says 41 euro ams to krefeld one way - too expensive.

I did alot of research because I didn't want to waste time on my trip searching for girls.

Any last minute tips or pro or con votes on the porn star would be appreciated.

Thanks to all for your assistance.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-11, 3:55 am

londraman
Posts: 9
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The fact that she's listed on more than one site doesn't really mean anything, these girls are freelancers so the more agencies they're with the bigger the chance of getting a booking

I haven't used any of those agencies so I can't really say if they're any good. They're both listed and rated on leguiderose.net so I'd presume they're ok, to be honest I'd be more worried about some of the agencies you've listed in Prague.

As a general rule, based on personal experience, I've found most czech agencies that have a big list of girls with faces blurred out and no proper website too risky to deal with. You might get what you ordered or you might get a bait & switch

Prague-bunnies are supposed to be good and if you want a porn star they've got a couple of them,

A good agency for porn stars in Prague that I've used is www.james-club.com, most of their girls are porn stars and they've always lived up to their promises to me

About the STD issue; the agencies might claim all their girls have to have a test monthly but since the girls aren't employed by the agencies and they don't have to have a test to work as an escort there's no way for you to be sure that's true

Someone who works in porn have to have a test or she won't be able to work, that doesn't mean she can't have been infected after the test but at least you know she's tested regularly

Personally I think it's worth the risk but if you're that worried about STD you should really avoid OWC, DATY and french kissing, obviously all sex involves some level of risks but if you don't do anything without protection you should be OK
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-11, 2:51 pm

DedalusPower Kat XXX
Power Kat XXX
Posts: 672
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Glad that you have Happy Garden on the list. I would bet that this will be your best time.

Just a suggestion: Don't ignore the FKK scene in Frankfurt. If you want a Porn Star experience, then one of the big 3 clubs in Frankfurt will satisfy all your needs. Check out some reports in the "World" section.

Have fun,

Dedalus
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-11, 5:11 pm

beautySeeker
Posts: 21
Location: USA
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Nice tip on the web site leguiderose.net, I did not know about it. I'm not up on the escort scene, It does appear they are 200+ euro. Although I can afford it, I personally find the escprt option overpriced which is probably why I don't know much about it. I just can't stand the idea of the agency taking 100 euro out of my wallet. I don't mind paying the girl 100 euro if she is hot.

I checked out that james-club.com. Ellen Saint looked like a option but I thought her pictures looked better on the web site than other samples on the web. An odd side note, I noticed that when you go to the booking tab or contact tab on the web site they set a session cookie with the domain worm.lamer.com. Although no harm in setting a session cookie, I thought that was an odd third party cookie domain.

I had frankfurt at the top of my list early but when I started investigating the overhead cost of visiting there I passed on it. I think I wan't to travel through germany on some future trip and hit the FKK places. I might go to PHG this trip if I feel motivated enough to day trip it out of Amsterdam.

I'm really not necesarily looking for a porn star, it is something that fell into my lap that I never really thought about.

If I am to step back and think about it, what I am really looking for is the best option in Prague and Budapest with the following requirements:
(Amsterdam has many options while I'm there)

1) The girl is 18-20 years old.
2) The girl is very attractive, 9+ prefered.
3) The cost is 100 euro.
4) GFE is not required but might be considered.

What I have so far in these two cities is escort agencies that overcharge (IMHO), private girls I can not communicate with, and questionable agencies with girls that have blurred out faces.

If I use one of the questionable agencies in the hope they will deliver can I reject the girl if she is bait and switch?

Might I be able to convince some local person to call these independent girls with the looks and price I want to make the arrangements for me in the local language?

Well, I am leaving in 45 minutes. I'll check the board out again when I get into Budapest and Prague.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-11, 5:40 pm

beautySeeker
Posts: 21
Location: USA
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I mispoke about that session cookie, It's not a session cookie but an ssl certificate.

I guess they were just having fun with the creation of the ssl certificate, it doesn't look good to thier web site visitors though.
Re: Should I do a porn star?
Posted: 2005-09-11, 6:51 pm

gezellig
Posts: 251
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Sex Park (Prague) is quality. Basically a smaller version of The Dam's RLD. Actually a bigger version of La Vien En Rose (covered area). A much better service in terms of positions and that though. You get your full half hour regardless plus a shower before and after the act. I was paying about £20 for this while my mates were paying £25 for a 5 minute lap dance in town. The mugs.
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