I am visiting Amsterdam and would like some input as to the best way to give my wife her first experience with a woman (with me as well). I am too concerned about a rip-off in the RLD and an escort to the hotel would be stupidly pricey (and also want to see the girl first) so think that perhaps a private house would be the best bet. Does anybody have any experiences or suggestions that they could offer?

thanks

Visit Fun4Two in Moordrecht. There will be no problem meeting up with someone that she finds attractive.

thanks for the suggestion but she is not interested in the slightest in another man, just another woman and me. From what I have read (like Greta's diaries, which are wonderful) these places sound like 100 guys all trying to get into the one available hole. I think this would turn her off completely. is it like that or can a relaxed time be had?

You will not find 100 men all over 1 woman at Fun4Two. It is couples only. That is why I suggested it as opposed to the other paren clubs in Amsterdam. I believe that you will find that most women at the club are bisexual and, at most, you would have that womans partner nearby. However, if what you want is strictly you and two women, then I am not sure what you can do other than an escort service or possibly trying a lesbian bar.

good news - bad news - good news

first of all - the cool thing about all the parensclubs is that things are very relaxed and there is nothing that happens that will make your wife uncomfortable. people ask first - either by words or tentative physical approach. the simplest shake of the head or hand indication is suffice to stop an approach. it is kinda self-enforced by the group. anyone who breaches that etiquette is ruining it for others. so boorish behavior or not taking "no" for an answer is not tolerated. so there will be no unwelcome advance that cannot be swiftly dealt headed-off. there are so many couples at these clubs who are content to be voyeurs that you can do that easily... and without pressure.

the baddish news is that most of the clubs I;ve seen are primarily (but not exclusively) hetro oriented. I managed to have one small adventure with another girl at paradise one night (a couples night) and that was quite hot. probably timid by bi standards - but it did it ok for me. that post is one of those awaiting re-post soon. if you want to see it before it's reposted - just PM me. But it was almost by chance that i got involved with her, she sorta approached me. and i loved that!

so I treat Amst mainly as the place to get my boyfix. i do my hunting for bi-fun at home - but that's mainly coz of health issues. to truly have max. bi-fun i like to taste the gal - and that's something that needs the girl to be tested otherwise theres a risk factor

bonnie & clyde have written some cool reports on the topic of scoring gals in Amst - so check their posts out. They know the best places/ways to find cool escorts/RLD gals open to this

for me - i know i wouldn't want to be in a pay for play situation coz it doesn't have a pure lust component . it's not that i'd object to paying! but i want the person (boy or gal) to be truly lusting after me not acting lustful coz of the cash I got in my pocketbook!

hope this helps

and thanks for the nice words about my diary!

sticky thoughts!

greta