Hello all,

Heading to London for a couple of weeks soon. Looking for advice on the seedier side of things of course. Plan to do some of the following things:

* strip pubs, the Griffin and The Woolpack. Any other recommendations with a similar set up?

* couple of tranny or shemale clubs. Any recommendations? Been to Sweet Wednesday, Legs 800, the Wayout Club and Sheworld.

* may venture to the White Horse too. In fact, I will.

* The bifun club too if it's on when I'm there.

Reports to follow........ All info appreciated.

The Horns,Browns ye old axe.
and Sunset Strip are
good options for strip clubs.The first 3 are
all walking distance from each other ye old
Axe is proper full on lapdances.I start at the
Horns walk to Browns then 200 yards onto the
Axe then have a couple of naughty ones to finish with

Sheworld not upto much laterly alot
of the regulars from there go legs now.

Thanks ams. Appreciate the info. Have tried those pubs before. Been a long time since I visited them. Looking forward, and hoping the bifun club is on when I'm there. The windmill will have to be another time me thinks. Although it's close to London public transport seems to take ages but I'll look in to it. The Woolpack will be getting visited a few times for sure. As for working girls. Probably not. I leave that for Germany but you never know.

Rios in Kentish Town is a nice spa that is mostly nudist (Mon, Tues, wed 6pm to 10pm is only nudist) and has a few play rooms. It's very unlikely to get action in tho, so can be nice to relax and watch some girls. I've seen guys with obvious escorts in before but in London, that can be an expensive game. Actually, I went to sweet Wednesday's once and arranged to meet quite a convincing TS to Rios a few days after and had a nice time but their policy (cheaper couples) doesn't extend to TS women and if it says male on their passport then it will be 2 single male prices.

I like all types of women so have been to Big Girls Parties before (BBW's and admirers) and although it's a vanilla club, everyone is quite open. People travel to go to the club so I feel there's more open to one night stands.

Fantasia massage on Charing Cross Road is decent for a massage where they have set prices for extras (£20 happy ending or £40 body to body with happy ending). The receptionist will tell you to complain if asked for more money.

None of the above are great necessarily but just other suggestions to where you already know.

Excellent lilj. Really appreciate it. The big girl's parties isnsoemrhign I've looked at before then gave up. Definitely gunna look in to that. I love a bbw. The massage parlour sounds interesting too. Anyon3 know any massage parlours/ brothels with women mature women work in there. Where do I find private working girls in London? Is adultwork my best bet. Any other options?

Checked a few dates and it seems I may well get my first visit to Candygirls in Sunbury. Have heard some good things about this place. Supposed to be a lot of sexy trannies in attendance and you can have all the fun you want if you choose to do so. The Woolpack will be visited a few times all being well. Sweet Wednesday won't be on when I'm there unfortunately. So planning on checking out Ted's place and Legs800. Never been to Ted's place. The bifunclub is on when I'm there So definitely want to visit that place. As in the title it's a place for bisexuals but there are women and trans there too. Really looking forward to seeing the action.

Most massage shops around Chinatown have mature Chinese women working there. A lot of them, you can look inside and see the women on offer (or at least the one waiting for the next customer).

There is a Mr Wu buffet on Wardour St in Chinatown and next door is a massage parlour. There is, 90% of the time, Asian women who look 45/50+ in revealing outfits waiting for customers. Downside is that the cafe next door is ALWAYS ques out the door. Also, being central London, it is very possible it will cost a lot for extras. Usuay they will ask if you've been here before, just confidently say 'yeah, I'm very regular in chinatown' or something so they take the hint not to try and ask for too much. Also, think with your head and if it's too much, enjoy the massage and save the cash for extras.

Around the corner on Lisle St, the first walk-up coming from Wardour St, if you see 'English Kay' written on the door then it's a big boob 40+ blond MILF working. She's decent and won't try and charge too much. On Greek St walk-up, there is Lilly (you will see on the doorbells if she is working). She is 60+ French woman and goes as low as £20 for 10 mins

Lol. Thanks lilj. Really appreciate all the info. Have had some.good experiences in walk ups but I don't really punt too much in England now. Only if I see something I really like. In whichever city I'm in. It's a personal thing for me these days. The Chinese place you mention; I think I accidentally came across it once. Oriental women standing outside smoking and chatting. Beautiful women too. An oriental lady is certainly an option. As is a massage parlour. Will look to see if there's any near where I'll be staying. How much is the oriental massage parlour ?

Just checked it on maps. Not the place i saw before but thanks for this info. Definitely checking out Chinatown. Didn't realise there were model places there too. Excellent info. Is there more model places there ?

Any one know any other massage establishments which have more mature ladies. Any nationality at all. Love all women.

Central London massage parlours are like the wild west. Now-a-days I work the summer and then travel and volounteer in the winter so I don't spend as much time mongering as when I worked in an office on a steady income (I'm just 31 but I decided this work-life balance fits my mental health better hahaha - basically I live a very cheap life now).

So in terms of extras, the golden rule is £20 HJ, £40 B2B + HJ and/or naked and HJ. If you are very lucky then you will get more for the £40 in terms of enthusiasm but it's really just your luck. And when I say golden rule, this is the traditional price. You will be asked for more (sometimes they even offer a card machine!!). I would say give yourself a tenner over for both but if it's £30 HJ then say something like 'does this include playing with breasts' etc. Be prepared to be offered something crazy like £80 HJ and, if that happens, just say 'nah actually, I just want a massage' and cut your losses. If you pay it, then she will be a rip off and you wont get a good service either cause she'll think your a tourist/easy money/ etc. Pretty much all massage places in Chinatown will have extras and don't be scared to go completely naked when they leave you to undress unless you find yourself in a proper legit place (unlikely) and they will specifically say to keep pants on.

And yeah, there are a few walk ups but I agree that Europe is much better for this so wouldn't investigate too much into it.

Ok, so these are massage places. Not walk ups. Got ya. Thanks for the info. And there's also walk ups in China town also. Or nearby. Do you know if there are any actual brothels with mature ladies worth visiting? Thanks for the all the info though. Really appreciate it.

On this trip I definitely plan to visit the bifun club. Have now booked a ticket and am looking forward to seeing this place immensely.

3 days of this two week trip are planned. A Monday at the bifunclub, Tuesday for Candygirls, and the Wednesday at Lovejoys hopefully. The latter two are tgirl venues. Can't get to legs 800 due to where I'm staying. Nor can I b8sit sheworld. Next time.

A few days will be dedicated to the Woolpack strip pub. Will maybe visit a walk up or two also. Or a wg.

See the message i sent you.
That lovejoys private house you need a invite through tv chicks website so they say on there page.
Might be ok they have email to contact them so a visit there would need to be arranged.Most likely a very discreet venue.

I was looking for the ts i meet at sweet wednesday to see how it works not sure if she has a profile on tv chicks.

I'm going to make inquiries about the house soumds a nice place though.

Thanks, got it. Have emailed for an invite. Looks like there's some nice ones that go. Plan to visit on the 31st. Bifunclub on the 29th. Interesting few days. Looking forward to it.

Probably it's the best thing to go for a walk in the Soho area. I'm sure you will find ssomething you like

Ok. So those three days are planned. Candygirls will be my first visit there. It's a t-girl place for anybody interested. Think its similar to other t-girl bars I've been to. Will report. Going to check it out on a Tuesday night. Thinking visiting Ted's place on a Sunday too. Gunna be some hefty taxi fares I would think. The other two places are at the same venue. The bifunclub & lovejoys. Outside of this remit I'll be checking out the Woolpack strip bar as it's handy. Wgs i like aren't replying on aw so a punt didn't look likely. Have to be honest. I prefer Germany for this. Can take my time and see who's still friendly, whereas some others become irritated by my fussiness.

Will most likely pop in to central London for the Griffin as I'm a big fan of this strip pub.

I made the long trip to teds place once and i wouldnt bother doing a return.
If it a local venue i would consider it.Very small bar and play area when i went.Not sure how long ago that was.

If your paying a decent cab bill to get back from there i would save the money for a different venue.

Was it on a Sunday? Not sure I will, but it's a bucket list type of thing. Trans addiction.

Enjoyed it. If you want a nice strip pub without any silly grief, then head to west London.. Candygirls is next up.