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Phoenix Club in London, England (UK)
Posted: 2018-07-19, 8:20 am

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Notes -

Prior to traveling to London this time I did a fair amount of research. I noted, for example, that pornstars Linda Lush and Lola Marie had participated in bukkake and gangbang video shoots that recruited amateur men. Unfortunately there were none during my visit, and by that I mean none at all let alone with those two.

I discovered that bareback providers were easy to find via adultwork.com, but most are not Brits, they are (surprise…not) Romanians mostly.

I thought I would try out a soho walkup girl. Checked a few doors, the ones noted on ukpunter as the better ones, and didn’t see anyone I found attractive. I checked on Soho Scarlett reputed to be a young pretty brit who charges a bit more but is well worth it. I was let in by the maid, and asked to wait 5 minutes…but I could tell it would be longer. While sitting she came out to speak to the maid for some reason attempting to hide herself, and while I didn’t see her face, I got a pretty good look at her body. She looked very average if not a but pudgy, so when she went back in the bedroom I took my leave. She probably has a very young pretty face, but I wasn’t feeling it. I especially was not looking forward to negotiating the piecemeal a la carte pricing where every act (e.g. kissing, touching, etc) is another 10 pound upgrade.

So I decided to try Phoenix Club again. ( http://www.thephoenixclub.london )

I had been there the previous year when they first opened, but it looks like they did enough upgrading to make a difference. But it’s still a pretty basic setup.

First, I’d like to note that I’m not convinced all photos on site are really the girls working. I think some are better looking look-alikes, although it’s hard to be sure because the faces are blurred. Some are definitely the same girls. But some either aren’t, or they are old pictures with different hair color and (notably) thinner bodies.

Second, I’m going to say some things below that are going to sound negative. But on balance I give Phoenix Club a strong recommendation, especially relative to the options available in London. To find anything of the kind but better would probably require leaving the country, and there are only a few of those. I’m most familiar with options in Germany…thus my jaded attitude. But if you can perform with other guys around, and don’t mind double teaming a girl with another guy (*NO* guy-to-guy contact, so no worries there), Phoenix Club is like a small miracle. For about the cost of a good one hour prostitute you can spend 2 hours with 5 girls and probably exhaust your spunk supply for the day. Or at least for an hour, and then another two hour session is available for purchase. (See the site for hours. They are only closed on Sundays and special holidays.)

It’s like the best frat party game of Naked Twister with your slutty sorority sisters ever. Except you don’t have to be young. (The girls are, at least relative to most of the guys.)

A bit about Phoenix Club. The price is 160 pounds for 2 hours of non-stop sex with any or all of 5 girls. It is mildly gangbang-like in that there are 4 beds for 5 girls, and a maximum of 10 guys. So typically girls are either giving head to two guys or, more typically, fucking one guy and blowing another at the same time. This holds to form for about the first hour. In the second hour some guys, feeling sated, will leave early or just sit it out in the snack room. So if what you really want is one-on-one my suggestion would be to enjoy the first hour as best you can, and then really get down to business in the second hour.

Phoenix Club is run with an almost Germanic efficiency. You are expected to show up no sooner than 15 minutes before starting time. The actual action starts exactly on the hour, and continues right up to, but never beyond, two hours later. There is a shared dressing room where everyone hangs their clothes. (I always have the paranoid thought that someone might walk off with my clothes just to be cruel. I have no idea what would happen in such a situation.) Everyone puts their valuables (wallet, phone, etc.) in a separate numbered ziplock bag. At the end you tell them your number, and they give you your bag. (Again my paranoid mind wonders whether some guy might leave nothing of value in his own bag, scope people out as they put their own valuables away, and then ask for their number instead of their own as they leave early.) In any case they keep the bags “behind the desk” and return them when you are ready to leave.

In practice, as far as I know, they’ve had none of my imagined potential problems. But I still prefer the German FKK system where everyone gets their own locked locker with a unique key on a wristband.

Upon arrival everyone takes a shower and is issued a towel and robe that have a colored stripe that matches. On my first visit I chose the yellow stripe, and on the second visit I chose an orange stripe. Oddly, the plastic bags also have color stripes, but there is no attempt to match them. Everyone just remembers their number. But if they did, then they would have a visual check that would prevent a bag going to or being claimed by the wrong guy. IE the guy with the blue stripe on his robe would get the bag with a blue stripe. Etc. There is just one bathroom with a toilet, shower, and sink. It would be nicer if they had a separate 1/2 bath with just a toilet.

A couple minutes before the start of the “party” you get the run down. Condoms are used for all penetrative sex. Condom use or not for oral sex is by mutual agreement. I noted most guys wanted condoms for oral sex. The default seems to be to assume you want to use one. But only one girl out of the 10 I saw on this trip didn’t want to do a BBBJ. (See following.) I was asked by more than one girl to not come in her mouth. However, on the second day I witnessed one girl encourage a guy to CIM. Maybe he was having trouble and she wanted to make sure he came. Or maybe she liked him. Not sure, but I believe it’s not typical.

Along with he bathroom there are 2 bedroom/partyrooms, one with one bed, and a larger one with three. This means that at any given time one bed is likely to have two girls…and 2 to 4 guys…using it. There is also a room with light snacks and orange juice and water.

I can never remember the blow-by-blow (so to speak) details of my visits to clubs like this. Each encounter is more like the others than not. Typically you get oral sex while the girl fucks one guy, and then you become the guy doing the fucking while a third guy steps in for oral sex. And the rotation continues. Most of the girls are not Brits, and in fact I’m not sure if there are any Brits at all. I’ve noted there are basically three kinds of girls at the Phoenix Club.

(1) The processor(s). These are typically women who have worked there for some time, have a reasonably high energy level, and will get guys off in an efficient and energetic, passably friendly, but somewhat uninspired way. For better or worse, these are the women who are the real engines of the Phoenix machine. They are often the ones with tattoos, piercings, fake boobs, and better than average looks. They don’t, for the most part, actually enjoy the sex, but they don’t mind it either. It’s a job after all. Danger of turn-off I’ve experienced: overacting.

(2) The bored-simpatico(s). These are typically women who have also worked there for some time, but have a lower energy level, and will therefore get guys off in a slower manner. Sometimes that is mistaken for actual caring, and sometimes there is actual caring, but there is also boredom. These are often plainer, more ethnic, often Latina (or sometimes Roma) women. They don’t, for the most part, actually enjoy the sex, but because they aren’t in a hurry they might appreciate some accompanying affection. It’s a job, after all, but there’s nothing that says you can’t find some comfort even at work. Danger of turn-off I’ve experienced: visibly bored.

(3) The newbie(s). These are women who have just started working in a group sex environment. They typically have done sex work previously on a one-to-one basis, but this might also be their first job as a sex worker. Because they are not yet jaded, they are not yet bored. In addition, they will typically lack the take-charge attitude of a processor, or the routinized expectations of a bored-simpatico. So you can often get their undivided attention, and they will exhibit more flexibility, and may actually care about you and your pleasure as an individual person rather than a random customer like all the rest. They may even enjoy the sex, if they can get over any remaining nervousness and self-consciousness.

I warned you I’d be short on details. There’s only so much I can say about a pile-up of sucking and fucking. In any case, and in the above context, here is what I found on two different days, both on the first (1pm-3pm) shift.

Day One (July 9)

On hand - Sophie, Kasia, Paloma, Vanessa, Victoria + me and 9 other guys

At the very start Kasia literally took me by the hand and lead me straight to a bed and took charge. She’s a tall blond, not at all fat but solidly built with small but real boobs. She’s a processor, somewhat mechanical, but quite pleasurable nevertheless. Next I went over to see Poloma. I started by giving her DATY action while she gave another guy a BJ. I was with her a year ago. She has a nice lean body, and a pleasant face with a bit of an extreme latin look (possibly w/ indigenous South American features.) She’s a classic bored-simpatico still capable of some real compassion but also can let her attention drift during sex.

I’m fairly certain that both Kasia and Paloma have their real pictures on the website. In the case of the next three I’m not so sure.

I spent a fair amount of time with Vanessa and Victoria but have trouble remembering what happened with who. They are both processors, but one was (IMHO) the best looking of the five with a small cute turned up nose.

But for me the winner of the day, and the one who seemed real enough to make me come hard, was the new girl Sophie. I’m quite skeptical the photos on the website are her. (If you download her pictures from the website they have the file name “Bianca.” So something is going on there. All the other files have names that match the girls name.) She looks latin, and has large enhanced boobs. She acted a bit shy. She was the only girl who didn’t want to do BBBJ because as she said “it’s my first day and I can’t do everything yet.” Ironically this made her more of a turn on than the processors. On both days they warned us about neighbors, open windows, and noise. I was unusually loud upon orgasm, and Sophie shushed me while placing her hand over my mouth, but it was more funny than a problem. We both laughed.

So for me Sophie was the best of the day, and the other four were different in details, but the same in overall quality, i.e. pretty good.

Day Two (July 11)

On hand - Bruna, Cassandra, Lianne, Millie, Ruby

Because I arrived a few minutes late I missed the introductions, so I’m even more hazy on who was who.

I was last to enter the room and so went with the least obviously good looking girl, but she was a nice bored-simpatico. She gave me a good BBBJ and then I fucked her doggy-style. Gave her a pretty good banging actually. But after a bit I moved on. I *think* she is supposed to be Bruna, but frankly nobody there that day looks like the pictures of Bruna on the website. I did note later she was passionately kissing one guy, but later would not do so with me, so that put me off a bit.

For most of the two hours two processors worked in the bedroom on it’s single bed with two or more guys. One who looked Thai, although she told me she was a mix, is supposed to be Lianne I guess, and those *might* be her pictures…if so from several years back I’d say. She is somewhat tall and nicely thin. She wouldn’t remove her top however, claiming her boobs are “too sensitive.” I wonder if they are actually scarred or some such. It even crossed my mind that she could be a transexual, but her hip construction and natural looking and functioning vagina strongly argue against that. The other one was probably Millie as her photos look like a younger version of the woman I had sex with. Both were attractive but mechanical.

The fourth gal was the most European looking woman, but Ruby on the website doesn’t look much like her to my eye. She was the most obviously attractive girl and all the guys wanted a nice long turn with her. I believe nobody was left behind. She is also a processor, but with a bit more of a personal touch than the others.

The one girl who I never seemed to get around to was Cassandra. It was getting towards the end of the two hours, and I was playing second fiddle getting sucked by “Bruna” while another guy plowed her, when suddenly I felt someone stroking my back and butt. It was Cassandra who had actually come across the room to get my attention! I took her back to an empty bed, and after some BBBJ and then missionary sex I had a great, and again loud, orgasm.

Similar to the first day, Cassandra was the best, and the other four, while different from each other, were about the same in quality, i.e. pretty good

So the moral of the story is check out the new girls. And not because you may be bored with the girls who have been there for a while. Rather, because the girls who have been there for a while may be bored with you! The new girls are still a little unsure of themselves and actually pay closer attention, and at least for me that makes them better.

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Re: Phoenix Club in London, England (UK)
Posted: 2018-07-21, 10:27 am

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Thanks for the in-depth report. I wasn't even aware of the place, so it made a good read.

neurosynth wrote:
But if you can perform with other guys around, and don’t mind double teaming a girl with another guy (*NO* guy-to-guy contact, so no worries there), Phoenix Club is like a small miracle. For about the cost of a good one hour prostitute you can spend 2 hours with 5 girls and probably exhaust your spunk supply for the day.


I'm guessing that is the sixty million dollar question;
On one hand I've thought that I would like to give a gang bang or a swingers club a go, on the other hand you are pretty close to other guys with hard-on's banging away!

Would it seem weird if you went to the chill-out area at the start of the session, or isn't there just the opportunity to do that? I'm wondering if the sessions are always sold out or if during say a mid-week that there might be the opportunity for more 1 on 1 time.

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Re: Phoenix Club in London, England (UK)
Posted: 2018-07-23, 6:42 am

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Thanks for the post @Neurosynth. I had come across the website for this place whilst trying to track down some info on the previous incarnation. Did you ever visit the prior version? If so, how would you compare? I went about 5 years ago and have recently been considering a return (which is what got me digging through the internet and finding it gone). While I have a more current trip pending that will likely result in no time for deviance, I'd very much like to visit Phoenix if it's in line with it's predecessor.

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Re: Phoenix Club in London, England (UK)
Posted: 2018-07-30, 11:13 am

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Great report Neuro. Had a quick look at the site. Bruna seems to be one I'd go for. But need to note a few names down as there's so many beauties to chose from. Cassandra looks mint too. You seem like you enjoyed yourself and sounds like a fantastic set up. There's a city 100 miles north. The second city of the UK. Called Birmingham. This has a couple of similar places but i've never been. Onoy heard about them. The retro club in a nearby town called Darlaston. And also the private club, which is based in Aston, close to the city centre. The retro also has trans dsys. For anyone who's gay there's the greenhouse club in Darlaston also. The greenhouse also has tranny days every Friday with some stunners in attendance apparently.

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Re: Phoenix Club in London, England (UK)
Posted: 2018-07-30, 11:14 am

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There's also a house in Sutton, London that has events every other Monday. Definitely want to check it out some time. I'll.try to find the name out.

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Re: Phoenix Club in London, England (UK)
Posted: 2018-07-30, 11:18 am

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https://www.bifunclub.com

It's s swingers club apparently so not just bi. Women go there apparently. Couples. But also working girls but not sure. Trans and bi men too. I'll be checking it out for the purpose of reporting but also deprivation lol. In all likelihood I'd just be having a look.

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Re: Phoenix Club in London, England (UK)
Posted: 2018-08-01, 5:25 pm

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billybob69 wrote:
I'm guessing that is the sixty million dollar question;
On one hand I've thought that I would like to give a gang bang or a swingers club a go, on the other hand you are pretty close to other guys with hard-on's banging away!

Would it seem weird if you went to the chill-out area at the start of the session, or isn't there just the opportunity to do that? I'm wondering if the sessions are always sold out or if during say a mid-week that there might be the opportunity for more 1 on 1 time.

bb69


I think most skeptical guys are surprised on their first visit how quickly normalized the 2-on-1 sessions become. Probably the least comfortable position is when the first guy is having missionary sex, and then a second guy wants to be blown. That puts the head of the first guy pretty close to the second guys action.

But most guys are pretty considerate and want to avoid male/male interaction just as much as you do. Spit roasting is popular for this reason. One guy has sex doggy-style and the other guy is the way on the other side getting a (BB)BJ.

It would be a little weird to immediately retire to the lounge area, mainly because at the start of the "party" the girls are quite assertive to get everyone as involved as possible at the outset. If you hesitate at all a girl is likely to take your hand and pull you over to a bed. Don't you just hate it when a hot girls insists that you fuck her ASAP? Yeah, me neither!!!

I've been there 3 times now, always on a weekday, and always with 9 or 10 guys. But they have a 2:1 ratio limit, so by the second hour there is usually a moderate amount of one-on-one going on. Of course one-on-one is going to be harder to find with the more popular girls.

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Re: Phoenix Club in London, England (UK)
Posted: 2018-08-01, 5:28 pm

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BeanChaser wrote:
... Did you ever visit the prior version? If so, how would you compare? I went about 5 years ago and have recently been considering a return (which is what got me digging through the internet and finding it gone). While I have a more current trip pending that will likely result in no time for deviance, I'd very much like to visit Phoenix if it's in line with it's predecessor.


My understanding is that the prior version was the Lady Marmalade parties, and that the current version is similar. However, I believe the LMP parties were 3 hours long rather than 2. 2 hours, however, seems sufficient as by the end most guys have depleted their spunk supply.

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Re: Phoenix Club in London, England (UK)
Posted: 2018-08-01, 5:41 pm

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splodge wrote:
Great report Neuro. Had a quick look at the site. Bruna seems to be one I'd go for. But need to note a few names down as there's so many beauties to chose from. Cassandra looks mint too. You seem like you enjoyed yourself and sounds like a fantastic set up..


It's a good time at a fair price. Picking out the girls, however, is somewhat moot. On a given day there will be 5 there, and it's not at all difficult to have some time with each of them, and even seconds with a favorite.

splodge wrote:
There's a city 100 miles north. The second city of the UK. Called Birmingham. This has a couple of similar places but i've never been. Onoy heard about them. The retro club in a nearby town called Darlaston. And also the private club, which is based in Aston, close to the city centre. The retro also has trans dsys. For anyone who's gay there's the greenhouse club in Darlaston also. The greenhouse also has tranny days every Friday with some stunners in attendance apparently.


Saw ads for clubs in various cities, but personally will take a pass on tranny/gay/bi stuff.

splodge wrote:
There's also a house in Sutton, London that has events every other Monday. Definitely want to check it out some time. I'll.try to find the name out.


splodge wrote:
https://www.bifunclub.com

It's s swingers club apparently so not just bi. Women go there apparently. Couples. But also working girls but not sure. Trans and bi men too. I'll be checking it out for the purpose of reporting but also deprivation lol. In all likelihood I'd just be having a look.


When I see ads of places noting TS and Bi activity I just assume that that is the primary orientation. Because it usually is, and mention of straight women is merely a possibility that often doesn't actually materialize. But here are some other links I've found.

http://www.greedygirlsparties.com

http://londonsexparties.co.uk

http://splatbukkake.com/ukxxxpass/parties.php

http://www.londonswingersadultparties.com/PARTIES/weeksummary.htm (CLOSED FOR NOW?)

http://www.pamsparties.co.uk/index/ (CLOSED FOR NOW?)

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Re: Phoenix Club in London, England (UK)
Posted: 2018-08-02, 11:05 am

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The average at the bi fun club is 40 men, 17 t-girls and 13 women according to their website. There's a few couples who go to. As a lover of t-girls I defintiely have to check it out but also for the women. This place is defintiely on my to do list.

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Posted: 2018-08-02, 11:06 am

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But I will give an honest and frank account when I visit. Thanks for the links also.

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