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Not my usual punting grounds
Posted: 2016-06-13, 12:04 am

Perspective1
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Dear all, its been a long time since I posted to this board under and old username, but I'm back as the wheel has turned and Amsterdam is on my travel itinerary for the first time in a long while. I used the Device the last time I was here! I have a book's worth of questions to ask about how to wring the most about of what will probably be too short a weekend, but I'll try and be brief.

Long and the short - I've mongered, but mainly in the UK (Edinburgh's saunas and London - independent escorts and hjs at Chinese/Thai MPs) and Shanghai/Berlin. So my experience is typically an escort or a brothel one, so researching AMPs and Privéhuis doesn't faze me (always happy to hear a reference for a place that doesn't clock watch and offers a decent GFE for an hour's booking though). But the Windows are a whole different ballgame with their day/night shifts, the negotiation beforehand and temptation to do the ring around the canal and never choose.

I worry I'll be a bit like a kid in a candy shop, but that all I'll get is a sugar crash and empty calories. I know myself quite well now and what I tend to prefer is a relaxing GFE session (hence Privéhuis), so I've decided to visit the windows for specific targeted missions only. But my first evening in I did want to take a stroll a try to cross a few names off a list because, hey, its Amsterdam. So I've asked a couple of questions for 'dam regulars below:

(a) - day or night shift, which tends to have a provider give better service? What tends to be the difference between the day girls and the night girls anyway, is it just an age thing?

(b) - I'd love to meet an Arab, Persian or Moroccan girl if anyone knows of any ladies working in Amsterdam. Recommendations of any black or mixed race girls from members would also be much appreciated!

(c) - I'm trying to make a short list of window girls who give a decent GFE (rather than PSE or starfish), and I rate good service over looks/age if it comes down to it (don't want to get pulled in by a hottie who starfishes). Particularly interested to hear about any members who had a good experience of a window provider who offered BBBJ/CIM or Greek, as I know these are rarer there.

(d) - Bit of a fantasy, but is there a Privéhuis where you can sit in a sauna and soak/smoke after your session?

Many thanks; my aim is to be in Amsterdam in July and post a report of the weekend by the end of next month.
Re: Not my usual punting grounds
Posted: 2016-06-13, 4:20 pm

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Not sure why this turned into such a long post but I was interested in researching the current prive scene:

Day or night girls: There are good providers on both shifts, but on nightshift you will see a lot more girls (especially along OzA), some of them very attractive, who are mainly interested in getting a quick €50 off tourists for minimal effort (e.g CBJ, top on) rather than providing a good service for experienced, regular mongerers. There are some nice girls among them, and dayshift is not necessarily better, but that's an impression I get. Nightshift is more impressive visually due to the number of girls and the effect of all the lights. I wouldn't get too hung up on negotiation, do a few laps to make up your mind, just ask the basics like "suck and fuck, naked, €50?" and ask for the girl's name (not "are you xxx") if you are trying to visit someone specific. If the girl says she only does CBJ for €50 it's not necessarily a bad thing, it's a sign that she's being honest and answering truthfully!

Arab, Persian, Moroccan.... the windows are only rented to EU passport holders, but obviously there are some girls living in Holland from asian families e.t.c. I don't think I've ever visited a Moroccan girl, although Moroccans are not uncommon in Amsterdam generally. I did fuck a very pretty 18-year old Lebanese girl at Asmara years ago, but that's the closest I've got to Arab or Persian. Girls of Surinamese descent are probably not that uncommon due to historical links with Holland. I'd recommend Lilly in the RLD (Wed,Sat Sun dayshift) who has a rather beautiful exotic look, reminds me of an Indian version of Jessica Alba. You would probably also find colored girls (and sometimes other more unusual nationalities like Ethiopian!) in a prive like Asmara, although not always particularly stunning.

Starfishing is self-explanatory but what's PSE?? I don't have any experience of full-on GFE in the windows, I don't ask for kissing or anything beyond suck & fuck, although some girls are very tactile, sensual and enthusiastic (which is one reason I like Rosie) although I have no idea what she'd say if I wanted to kiss her! Some discussion of GFE in this thread - Looking for intimate GFE with DFK

For BBBJ, CIM there might still be a few girls on Molensteeg who do that kind of thing on request if you don't mind the seedy vibe. I think a few of the more serious, professional, open-minded girls might offer this selectively to regular clients (also anal). Some of these things might be openly available from certain girls but not many. Worth searching on the board, it's been asked before.

#####Prives####

Like you say, the prive scene is not too hard to research on google e.t.c, although there aren't that many prive related posts on this board (see the separate "Escorts and Clubs" section). They are usually much more relaxed than a typical suck & fuck in the RLD, the massage can be sensual if the girl is good, although you won't get GFE as standard (might be negotiable or you might get lucky, depends on individual girls).

See this post from last year asking about The Prive Scene

Park 118 is often recommended on here (e.g this thread) and would be a good place to start, lots of threads mention it. I don't know about a sauna but I remember sitting with the girl in one of those big round hot-tub type baths with the bubble jets. A nice building, I've only been once a few years back, wasn't amazed by the selection of girls but the service seems to be good judging from reports. Recent review here - Bo at Park 118: mixed feelings

Asmara is reviewed in this thread: Asmara also Lena at Asmara: Dissapointing and here: Asmara?. It gets some mixed reviews but if you like brothels it's worth visiting, not that different from an English "massage parlour". Website is http://www.asmara.nl/en/ with prices and also photos of the girls - although they seem to be a suspiciously hot group! Maybe they picked the hottest ones. There have been plenty of babes there in the past but not all working at the same time....

There's another place called "Sexclub Vienna" (formerly Vienna Massage) at Rijnstraat 224. I went there back in 2009 or something like that, it was a nice place although fairly expensive. Mentioned in this thread - Gwen at Vienna Sexclub: wonderful experience

Asmara, Park 118 and Vienna are all easily accessible by tram. Now for some places I've never been:

There was a place called Jan Bik which I believe is now "Club Luxury" but I don't know anything about it.

I'm not sure if "Prive 42" is still open but they appear to have a website when I googled it.

Another place mentioned here - Club BB Prive Milau but it doesn't sound good!

There's "Sexclub Golden Key" on Overtoom which I think I saw in a TV programme once. I did look at the website but it doesn't mention any prices which makes me wonder if it's a bit on the pricey side!

There's a fairly high-end place (escort prices) called Club LV which is described in this fairly old thread: Club LV. The place still appears as a suggestion on a google search of privehuis so presumably it's still there!

There's also a "Crystal Club" which appears on google searches, although I have a vague idea that it might be some kind of venue for picking up escorts ???

There aren't actually as many privehuis open as you might expect, probably because they need a specific licence from the city council which is presumably not that easy to obtain!

Have fun on your trip!.......

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Re: Not my usual punting grounds
Posted: 2016-06-13, 7:45 pm

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Perspective1 wrote:
Recommendations of any black or mixed race girls from members would also be much appreciated!

My current favourite girl of any race is Mary - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23654&p=164847 . She is black, 22, slim and gorgeous. She was last known to be working around OZA 9 or 11 windows, evenings with Monday off.
Re: Not my usual punting grounds
Posted: 2016-06-13, 10:04 pm

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I've probable had more relaxed sessions in the daytime over the night shift, probably because there's a lot more potential customers about in the evening so some girls will try to rush the session along to quickly get the next customer in.

There was a middle easton looking girl on the OZA canal earlier this year who did her make up to look like an egyptian princess, she was talked about here viewtopic.php?f=14&t=24301
There's a black girl in the Singel called Haley who gets good reviews.

Bbbj/cim is possible, some girls may only offer it to regular customers though. COB seems to be more available, I've been offered it from a few different girls., Simona is quite good at that ;)
Re: Not my usual punting grounds
Posted: 2016-06-14, 12:39 am

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Thanks guys, all the window girls and a selection of the privus names are going into a word document for when I get to Amsterdam.

Aldebra, PSE is Porn Star Experience, its like GFE's wilder, dirtier cousin. Personally it puts me right off my stroke and gets in the way of enjoying a session. Its fun to watch but strangely less arousing to experience.

Thanks for the words of advice on the Windows scene and the privus info; the privus scene is clearly hit and miss like it was in Berlin (or like Edinburgh's saunas) but I like it because its more private, relaxed and you get a set line up of girls without spending hours wandering around.

I suspected that the night would be more hectic than the day at the Windows. I think I'll trial a day trip and then try it at night the next day; thanks for the tip about asking the girl's name rather than saying '...are you x?'

I figure any extras like OWO, CIM, DFK or anal would be simpler to work out at a privus; I'll use the windows to sleep with the women that catch my eye, guided by the names I have been given here. More important is the street names, which can guide me to the right blocks so I'm not wandering around the MILF area and missing everyone else.

I think I'll make a schedule of who is working when and then do a circuit once I arrive to put street names to places.
Re: Not my usual punting grounds
Posted: 2016-06-14, 3:28 pm

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I've been gravitating more to the RLD in recent years, but before that I did visit Asmara quite often. I agree there is something rather nice about a traditional brothel and the excitement of picking from a selection of girls that introduce themselves to you one by one...at Asmara you can hear them come downstairs which creates a nice feeling of anticipation before they come into view.

Visiting both prives and RLD gives you a nice change of pace, I enjoy a good sensual massage but sometimes it's great to just walk into a kamer and get a naked girl sucking your cock almost instantly!

As for the streets, don't forget to take a look at George's excellent http://www.amsterdam-red-light-district-maps.com/Georges-Interactive-Map-Of-Amsterdams-Main-Red-Light-District.html if you haven't already - a very up to date clickable map (worth printing a copy) with photos of the kamers. If you have a list of girls you want to visit you can get a pretty good view of the kamer location even before you get to Amsterdam!

Thinking about the RLD, dayshift doesn't really get going until the afternoon, and Monday / Tuesday days can sometimes look a bit quiet and forlorn, with things picking up towards the weekend on both days and nights. Also a lot of windows will be closed around (roughly) 7-8pm while the shifts change over.

Nightshift is enjoyable if you can get into the vibe, take your time to walk around and soak up the atmosphere and the (very sexy) sights rather than grumble to yourself about the crowds. OK you're stuck in a slow-moving group of tourists, but there are girls in bikinis everywhere, how bad can it be?

It can be nice to pick a really stunning girl (like a kid in a sweetshop) and see what happens, knowing that you have the option of visiting a prive for more reliable service the next day. Ideally the recommended girls turn out to be ones that you personally find super-attractive, otherwise there can be a trade-off between picking a hot unknown girl or getting reliable service from a girl who is attractive but maybe not quite your usual type.

I'll be interested to know how you get on at the prives and what you think of them compared to other cities. I visited a few brothels in the UK before I first went to Amsterdam, the setup is not that different but it seemed so exotic to have all this gorgeous eurototty available compared to the down-to-earth local girls in my regular massage parlour!

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Re: Not my usual punting grounds
Posted: 2016-06-15, 12:41 am

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I started punting in Scotland/the northwest, apart from one brief window trip in Amsterdam, so to me the British massage parlour or sauna was the go-to option of my early years. With the language barrier in Germany and China it was mostly how I punted there as well, though I did meet a Chinese nurse who liked to put out on the side whilst in Shanghai at one point. When you are in a foreign country there is a lot to be said for finding a place with a website, a set of pictures and a street address, especially now there are online reviews and google street view to help you. That's why I fancy the privus scene for the times I'm feeling unadventurous.

In the UK it's no longer been the case that I use brothels since I moved to London three years ago, apart from the ubiquitous AMPs (Asian Massage Parlours!) where you can get a real massage and a happy ending (a discovery I made while in Asia). I find that the brothels in the capital are just as expensive if not more so than an independent escort and come with several disadvantages - you don't know who is going to be working or when they'll be free, you don't know how shagged out the girls are going to be, and it tends to be obvious that you're walking into/out of a sex venue. No big deal if you live in a country where they are tolerant of that sort of thing, but in the age of the internet in the puritanical UK not always the best idea...

I think the window girls will be closer to the independent escorts I do incalls with back in the UK. I'm spoiled here as I have my set favourites who know what I like. I expect what I'll do in Amsterdam is try the day shift and then a privus the first day, then switch to the night shift my second and third nights.

I know what you mean about just going up to a kamar and getting it on with the girl inside 5 minutes later. If its the second or third time of the day (night!) I often prefer a good BBBJ for twenty minutes at the mouth of an expert than just sex. You tend to have to be a regular in the area to know who to go to for that though, and they have to know you. I shall give it a whirl anyway.

Thanks for advice on times and the link to the map, that's a godsend. When I get back from the trip in July I'll be sure to give a comparison to the UK brothels of my acquaintance, though IMO the Berlin establishments tended to be the best in terms of surroundings and service. As it was all out in the open things could get more elaborate.
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