I agree with George, an escort is a lot of effort/money to spend when even if she looks great on her website (and even if those pictures are genuine) you simply may not connect in person; the vibe could be wrong and it's just not a pleasant experience at all.

I don't think you need to try and replicate a girlfriend experience, you just need to get laid with a nice friendly girl.

That's why, even if approaching a recommended Window girl, you still need to go on your own instinct. I can recall meeting a few window girls purely on recommendation and I just didn't connect and the experiences were poor.

Which, as I said earlier, is why if you're not 100% sure, on the first visit you could always ask for just a blowjob. Enjoy it, get comfortable with getting naked with a stranger so quickly and then if this is the girl you want to lose your virginity with, go back and then have sex. This approach can be achieved for less than an hour with an escort, which could include a lot of wasted time, on talking, drinking or whatever.

What you are saying is very logical. The thing is i want to have some foreplay. Maybe u know the talking kissing cuddling until we start having sex. I do want to go down on her etc. But with a window girl that will be hard to get it seems. So maybe a visit to park118 would be the best option for me since i will see them beforehand and i will be able to request. I'm saving the window girls for my 2nd time really :P

If you are thinking of Park118, jimmy_nova's suggestion of looking at reviews of the girls on Hookers.nl (via google translate) is a good idea. I quite like "walking in blind" and picking girls at random based on looks and instinct, but as this is a rather special occasion it would make sense to do some research.

If you want kissing and DATY (dining-at-the-Y i.e going down on her) this kind of research would be useful as you can see if some girls will do kissing or any GFE-type stuff included in the normal price, or how much it's likely to cost as an extra.

If you are in a situation where you are picking a girl in a privehuis without knowing much about her, like danny says use your instinct. Does she appeal to you? Does she smile and make eye contact or does she look sulky and bored? The first girl I chose in a privehuis gave me a lovely warm smile and something about her made me choose her over another girl who was younger and more of a stunner (but seemed a bit cold). It was a good choice because I saw her many times after that, and she really helped me to relax and learn to enjoy sex (I wasn't a total virgin but she was the first prostitute I really felt comfortable having full sex with).

A privehuis would be a little more chilled out than the RLD (which was why I went to one before the RLD on my first visit to Amsterdam) so it's not a bad idea to try Park 118 first time for a relaxed hour-long session, and RLD second.

Danny69 makes a comment that being with a nice friendly girl can be more important than a GFE as such. Some girls will have personal limits where they don't kiss clients (to keep it as something special for their private life) and some of them can be a little bit restrictive about touching their pussy, offering DATY e.t.c mainly for hygiene reasons. You can still have a very genuine and warm connection with a girl, even without GFE, if she thinks you are a nice person and you treat her with respect. It's more of a friendly connection where the girl is pleased to have a nice customer and enjoys giving him a good time, even if the reason for the actual sex is ultimately purely business.

Other girls are much more relaxed about doing GFE stuff. Earlier in the thread you said:



If you're not too fixated on having a young stunner, and are happy with a slightly older girl, then I think you are more likely to be able to find someone who can do the GFE stuff and treat you very nicely. I don't know the Park118 girls but in some of the (now out of date) reviews there did seem to be possibilities of finding a very accommodating woman who maybe wasn't the youngest or most beautiful compared to the RLD, but would know exactly what to do to make a shy virgin feel welcome!

Do remember to be nice to the girls, and compliments don't hurt, so if she's really good in bed or you think she looks great, tell her - it's one of the few occasions you can compliment a girl on her tits / ass / figure without worrying about offending her!

Might sound obvious, but if kissing is key, make sure you agree it's French kissing.
Otherwise it's a bit cold and sterile to just kiss lightly on the lips.
It may not be of any use to you, but in the UK it's commonplace for escorts to French kiss, provide oral without condom and to allow you to ejaculate in their mouths with a smaller percentage swallowing.
Your next holiday location, maybe ;)

Yeah i was thinking about that actually and i appreciate the headsup. Also heard of DFK but im not sure what makes it more Deep really. Is it like more tongue or is she like deepthroating me with her tongue? Haha probably not xD but that is an image i tend to picture when i read it xD



Yeah i did try checking there but I couldn't really do much cause i didn't find where to go xD plus im in a country with bad internet and using the phone so having a hard time fixing it. Maybe i will be able to do sometime later. Tried to open a thread on the escort and club forum without much luck so far.

You are kinda right i would much rather find a girl that seem to smile more than the bored one. You and danny have that spot on. Her being friendly is very important to me really. So i will follow that advise. One thing that im uncertain with is what if i dont seem to like the girl that seemed so awesome in the reviews of what if she doesnt smile ? Do i go with someone i dont know from the revies that seems to apeal to me even though I don't know much about her?

Btw the hostess can she help me picking etc? Like telling me which allowes what or whats up? Like lets say a girl only agrees to do suck and fuck only. Do i say i would prefer another to do some other things i prefer? Like would the hostess recommend a couple of girls depending on what i tell the hostes?

Btw i really want you guys to know that i really appreciate the help. I never expected so many to help and so many to give me
so much good advice.

I suppose there's no harm explaining to the hostess that this is your first time doing this and asking her a few questions, I don't know what kind of response you'll get (maybe just an explanation of the standard services offered) but she might be able to give you some guide as to what the different girls offer.



I guess that's the kind of thing you have to decide on the spot! Personally I wouldn't pick a well-reviewed girl if she had no appeal to me, but if she looks attractive then good reviews are probably a better guide than body language. If you are choosing unknown girls that's when you need to rely on your instincts. All you've really got to go on is their appearance and how they come across (they will probably just walk in briefly and say "Hello, I'm Sarah" or whatever). If they can't be bothered to look you in the eye or smile when they say hello, and you don't have any reviews to say otherwise, it's not looking great for a mind-blowing GFE experience (unless you want the moody girlfriend experience, which is possibly more realistic).

Even if a privehuis girl is not brilliant, she will at least do the basic service for the basic amount (or get into trouble with the management). The RLD girls can be much more tricksy and start demanding extra money, so with a limited budget it would make sense to try and pick recommended girls in the RLD and stick to a €50 session at least to start with (if you find an amazing girl you can always come back again for a €100 session with her).

You can't always plan things too rigidly, sometimes you just have to make up your mind on the spot. One tip in a privehuis - if the girls come and say hello one-by-one, do try and remember the names of the ones you like, otherwise you will be asked which girl you want and have no idea! Typically in a privehuis there could be anything from 2 to 6 girls to choose from.

Ah that seems reasonable. I guess you are right. No harm in asking.

Thats a little where i guess i will have to go and see really. It's actually getting abit nerving right now cause it's barely two weeks from now and each day passing just makes me more anxious xD.
It's more of a "looking forward to it" anxiousness. The awkwardness on the other hand is something i don't look forward to.

Just checked some reviews on 3 girls on the site mentioned before and a girl called eva there caught my eye so she will be first on my shortlist for now :)

Yes, French kissing is with tongues. If you look at some of the Dutch sites, hookers nl and kinky nl there is a category of tongue kissing (translated) so I think it's well enough understood.

I have never paid for any such extras and have only french kissed when the window girl and I have really connected and it's just happened. So I don't know how deep or passionate a woman will go with you, certainly on your first time together.

But even if tongues are used just a little or even if the kissing is only open mouthed and sensual, that's probably going to give you your girlfriend experience; what I was cautioning against is just getting a very soft kiss/kisses on the lips, which, to be honest, is pretty sterile and certainly not worth paying for.

I still think, for your first / second time/s, you will be best served by the windows; a known good provider (from reviews here) who makes you feel horny in the moment and then just do what comes natural guided by their experience. Once you've had sex, and probably before that a blowjob, you will be so much more confident that you can then explore and experiment a little with kissing and oral on them. I think that if you try to create this almost perfect first time with kissing, conversation, cuddling, oral on them, with a complete stranger you may end up adding to your anxiety and if there just happens to not really be a vibe between you (however beautiful she is), then you'll not really enjoy it.

Amsterdam is a wonderful place, just get there, chill, check the locations/details of girls on your shortlist, then go out and lose yourself in the red lights and the eroticism. You'll wake up the next day really happy.

I want to touch on something Danny said, because it really can't be overstated: don't try to create a "perfect" first time. Your first time will never be the way you think it will be. It will probably be awkward, there's a good chance you'll either cum too fast or not be able to cum at all, and that's fine. That's how it is for everyone.

If you're expecting to make sweet, sensual love to a beautiful woman on white sheets strewn with rose petals, you're gonna be disappointed. Life is not a movie and you are not Hugh Jackman. Your budget is what it is. What you seem to be looking for is really a premium service, and premium services cost money. You may get some of what you want, but you won't likely get it all unless you have the cash.

Don't aim for perfection. Don't build your first time up into this huge deal. Just go do it. Get the experience. Learn what sex is like. You're young. You'll have time for the other stuff later. You just want a nice, friendly girl who understands it's your first time and will help guide you through it. Everything else is secondary.

Also, don't skip the blowjob. Every man needs to experience a good blowjob at least once.

I'm not saying don't do your research and that you should just go to whoever and just get it out of the way. Just don't set your expectations too high.

Ibis is a hotel. If I remember correctly it's the closest to the train station. If you get there and your room isn't ready you can store your baggage in their baggage room until your room is ready. As for hostels, every hostel is different, but most will supply lockers. I would advise your bring your own padlock. The locker may or may not be big enough to hold your luggage, if that's the case then I would lock all your valuables in the locker and keep all the non-important stuff (stuff you're willing to lose) in your luggage. Most people in hostels I've met are friendly, and I've never had a problem with stuff going missing. But there are bad apples out there so you can never be sure.

I'm currently a little uncertain of how it will go. I have booked my flight and a hostel with reasonable prices for now. My plan is to try park118 to see if it works. If i get SnF and french kissing with touching then it will be fine. Yhe fact that i will have an hour apeals to me for one fact. I will be able to be more relaxed compared to the 15 min in the RLD. I've made a park118 shortlist for now and a window shortlist ( hvn't finalised it yet so i will adjust accordingly within a couple of days.

Park118: Eva, Lina, monique/serena. This way i can have options if maybe eva seems less right than lina etc then i atleat have someone else.
I'm not going for the perfect first time i just want to be able to build up to the sex etc without having to stress it too much. The fact that some allow cumming more than once is a huge stress relief.

As for window girls i have mostly only been smitten by: Agneskia, Veronica.

I will for sure go more than once really. So i am 100% certain that i will go to the RLD. But for now park118 seems to be in the lead for my first time. And thanks for reminding me that i cant make it an amazing first time i seem to have been caught up on the amazing stories here etc.

One thing for sure thoughis that I gotta find a good place that serves an awesome steak :D

P.S internet has been dead for a day or so. Incase u wonder why i dissappeared xD.

very close to red light district, and not too expensive as you're on a budget, I've had some great steaks here in the past to gain some pre fucking energy ;)


http://www.argentinosgrill.nl/

You should have no issue at all finding yourself a good steak. There,s a ton of Argentinian steak houses in Amsterdam, you'll see them everywhere. Typically, they're nothing too special, but the food has always been solid, in my experience.

There's also Gauchos, which is a Dutch Argentinian-themed chain. I've had a few good meals there over the years. There's several of them around. One location is right near the RLD in Singel, so that's convenient.

Also, if you like Thai food, Bird on Zeedijk has the best in the city, hands down.

Nice! That's perfect :D hope its ok to go alone? Since I'm flying solo :P

Seriously guys i would be lost without u. Thanks <3

I'm always there solo too. It's no problem at all going alone.

I think it's worth emphasising that the selection at a privehuis at any given time can be limited when you visit depending on which girls are working and how busy they are (I've encountered as few as two girls on a few visits), therefore don't be too disappointed if none of those girls are available when you visit, and do remember that you're not obliged to choose a lady and you can walk out if you don't see any that you like.

In this case, it might also be worth asking the hostess who will be available later, so you could plan when to do a return visit.

You could also call ahead on the day before you go to ask who is available.



I think many people here are being slightly pessimistic. The first time can be amazing and I know that from first-hand experience. I think the problem with Amsterdam RLD is the standard of service is so low on average that many people here aren't used to having amazing experiences, outside of the select few well known girls (even then, someone like Max in the RLD who was very highly rated on this forum, I would only describe as average compared to most of my privehuis experiences). There is at least one privehuis (though not in Amsterdam) where out of more than a dozen girls I visited, I'd describe over half as amazing, and all but one of the others were well above average. Even the worst experience I had there was still better than most RLD experiences I've had.

That said, I don't want to give the impression that an amazing experience is a sure thing either, because it certainly isn't. I suppose the best approach would just be to keep your excitement and expectations in check (I'm assuming you've read reviews of the Park 118 girls you mentioned, so you have an idea of what to expect) in case in doesn't turn out to be everything you ever wanted, and if it does turn out amazing, then consider yourself quite fortunate. :)

Yeah you are right. If that is the case then i will just do as u say. Come at a different time and maybe just go for a cbj with a window girl and come back later. Maybe i just wait depending on the time really. I will not speculate too much right now and will just see how it goes. If it's good then good for me if not then i will try again later xD.

Here is my current shortlist i found. If you think that i shouldadd someone then feel free to enlighten me.

Simona(Wallen, Sint Annenstraat 122, (Afternoon/Nigh)
Agneskia( Oudezijds Achterburgwal 72-3,) 4pm-2am
Veronika( , Stoofsteeg 3-1) tall ruski
Petite Ella (Bethlemsteeg 10)

I would strongly recommend Agneskia (still don't know how to spell that name!!).

Check out the recent review in Liam's trip report, which is consistent with my experiences. Time for foreplay, one of the best covered blowjobs I've ever had, body to body contact, I certainly kiss her on lips and neck, but maybe I'm just forward, and then eye contact when having sex, plus a lot of caresses. And good conversation.

Considering she and I don't have any special connection, I still consider this as closer to sex with a girlfriend than most experiences in Amsterdam. And I think that's what you want.

It can be amazing, all I cautioned you about was "over engineering" an experience, for an hour or so, with a stranger and then not only building up anxiety, but simply not getting the vibe ;)

Yeah danny she's already on my list :P can't reakly ignore her reviews :D
Thanks. :D

Yes, I know, I was referring only to those on your short list. ;)

2 of them I know nothing about, Simona I had seen in passing but never visited. If I was there now, I would probably go for her and ask for a BBBJ but her reviews are mixed, with a few saying she's a bit distant so I wouldn't know I'd recommend her so readily for someone less experienced and wanting a more girlfriend like experience.

Ag has been a 'star of this site,' for at least 6/7 years so a very safe bet.