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Returning to Amsterdam after 7 years! Any advice?
Posted: 2017-04-15, 4:52 am

keith2p11
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I'm finally going back to Amsterdam in June after a 7 year absence, though I previously went 5 times between 2003 and 2010. I'm just wondering what, if anything, has changed since I've been gone. For instance, I've heard there are fewer windows now. Also, I've seen a lot of rip off reports on this forum, but I rarely had problems like that before. I've been with over 100 girls in De Wallen, and only met a few bad apples. Has something changed?

I also see a lot of folks recommending the privies? Is that where the real action is now? Before, there wasn't as much of a selection in the privies as there was in the RLD? Also, what about the weed? I've heard tourists can no longer buy weed legally in Amsterdam? Is that true? If so, how do I get around it? Or maybe I've just heard a bunch of bullshit rumors here is the USA.

What are the prices the girls are charging these days?

What do I need to be aware of since I've been away for a while? Thanks in advance for any heads up anyone wants to offer!
Re: Returning to Amsterdam after 7 years! Any advice?
Posted: 2017-04-15, 11:10 am

jimmy_nova
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keith2p11 wrote:
Has something changed?

Yes, many windows have closed, so there is less choice now than before, but there is still plenty of choice. One of the biggest changes is that several of the highest rated girls on this forum seem to have disappeared, which I think has contributed significantly to the perception of a decline in the quality of window girls. Personally, I've always preferred prives, so IMHO, so I feel that the declination of the RLD is a little overstated here, but I also feel the RLD was also somewhat overrated in the first place (this is a very subjective thing).


keith2p11 wrote:
I also see a lot of folks recommending the privies?

Depends what you want. Service and value for money is generally much better at prives, which is why they tend to get recommendations. On the other hand, prives have less choice and it seems some (many?) people consider the girls less attractive (not me, however). Park 118 seems to be the gold standard for Amsterdam prives, but you're only likely to see up to ten girls working there when you visit. If you're outside Amsterdam, you can get even better value/service than Park 118; I know several places where you can get 60 minutes with GFE, DFK, DATY, CBJ, multiple positions, cum twice, etc. (and sometimes even more) for €100. (Park 118 girls charge extra for DFK and DATY).

There are also bad/rip-off prives in Amsterdam, such as Asmara, that should be avoided.


keith2p11 wrote:
Is that where the real action is now?

Depends on what you're looking for. Do you value great service or amazing looks more?


keith2p11 wrote:
Before, there wasn't as much of a selection in the privies as there was in the RLD?

This is still very true.


keith2p11 wrote:
Also, what about the weed? I've heard tourists can no longer buy weed legally in Amsterdam? Is that true? If so, how do I get around it?

A "Weed Pass" for Dutch residents was considered at one point, but they never actually went through with it, so you can still buy weed as a tourist without any problems. Just make sure you're carrying ID because they always ask for it now.


keith2p11 wrote:
What are the prices the girls are charging these days?

You can still do a €50 session with a window girl, but many (most?) will try to push for a €100 for a decent experience and I personally find €50 sessions not very interesting.

If you go the prive route, Park 118 is €95 for one hour plus any extras you want (DFK, DATY, BBBJ, anal, etc.). Each extra usually costs between €20 and €50. Having visited two girls there recently, I ended up paying €175 each time in total for one hour with DFK and DATY, but I've heard reports of paying less/more than this depending on the girl.


keith2p11 wrote:
What do I need to be aware of since I've been away for a while?

If you go to the RLD (especially the Wallen), it's best to stick to the known reputable girls to avoid rip-offs or disappointing service (but then, it sounds like you have plenty of prior experience already with the RLD, so I guess you know this).

If you go to a prive, Park 118 is your best bet, and be sure to avoid Asmara. And be aware of the total cost at Park 118 if you're looking for extras.
Re: Returning to Amsterdam after 7 years! Any advice?
Posted: 2017-04-15, 4:57 pm

keith2p11
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Thanks for the info! It sounds like not much has really changed in the last 7 years. Is the Red Light Cafe still open? I used to buy a lot of my weed from there.

Also, it used to be that the best girls were in the Sint Annenstraat area and around the OZV area generally. The rip offs were usually in the OZA area, usually on the far side away from the canal. Is that still true?
Re: Returning to Amsterdam after 7 years! Any advice?
Posted: 2017-04-18, 8:46 pm

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Also, it used to be that the best girls were in the Sint Annenstraat area and around the OZV area generally. The rip offs were usually in the OZA area, usually on the far side away from the canal. Is that still true?


Up to a point, yes. The problem is that the amount of windows in the Sint Annenstraat area has been thinned out quite a bit (Goldbergersteeg closed, only 2 windows open on Bethlemsteeg, several windows closed on Tromp, Dolleb, Sint Annenstraat...) so the action has shifted more towards OzA which is still a bit of a crapshoot - for example see this thread for a random sampling of two OzA girls - Help Identifying 2 girls I visited....

There are some decent girls on OzA - three of my regulars Mary, Rosie and Nicole have their regular windows there, although Rosie has shifted to Sint Annendwarsstraat 1-4 apparently while her regular kamer is out of use.

There are some good providers on Stoofsteeg, personally I like Angel, Elena and Lilly (if I can ever find her free)!

With the OzA girls on nights, €50 will often get you CBJ + upselling, and the girl won't always bother taking her top off! A bit of sensible negotiation might help, some of these girls might give a decent session for €100, but it's hard to know whether you are throwing good money after bad. I usually reserve my OzA visits to unknown girls for when I'm too shagged out to have decent sex, but I'm curious about some total babe who's caught my eye! I found Rosie like this (one of my favourite girls of all time) so it's not all bad.

Part of the issue in the RLD now is that €50 is not worth what it was 7 years ago but it still remains the "standard" price, so instead of price inflation you get a kind of inflation in the amount of upselling and hassle with girls wanting extra for things that are pretty basic (like taking their damn clothes off!). Also "€50 for blowjob, €100 for blowjob and sex" is much more common than it was - some girls are upfront at the door and others only when you are already committed to a €50 session....

It's still fun in the RLD, you can pick some nice girls based on reviews, and some of the unknowns are rather stunning and sometimes worth fucking even if they are prone to upselling - just don't visit unknown girls with high expectations of superb service for €50!
Re: Returning to Amsterdam after 7 years! Any advice?
Posted: 2017-04-19, 4:49 am

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When I used to visit girls in De Wallen in the past, I would never start with the 50. I'd always begin with 100, and I usually got pretty good service that way, often excellent service. I learned after my very first visits to the window girls that 50 mostly just gets you in the door.

I always found girls of some ethnic backgrounds offered better service than others. The Western European and Asian girls seemed to be the best, the Eastern Europeans a little less so, and the Africans tended to be the worst. The Latin Americans and Russians were a mixed bag.

What about the Red Light Cafe? Is that still open? If not, what's the best place to get weed nowadays in De Wallen?
Re: Returning to Amsterdam after 7 years! Any advice?
Posted: 2017-04-19, 8:38 am

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If it's a new girl I'll always go in at 50e... and then if they upsell another position for 20e it's not the end of the world.

If it's a girl I've seen before and she's worth it then I'll go in at 100e.
Re: Returning to Amsterdam after 7 years! Any advice?
Posted: 2017-04-23, 11:26 am

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keith2p11 wrote:
When I used to visit girls in De Wallen in the past, I would never start with the 50. I'd always begin with 100, and I usually got pretty good service that way, often excellent service. I learned after my very first visits to the window girls that 50 mostly just gets you in the door.

I always found girls of some ethnic backgrounds offered better service than others. The Western European and Asian girls seemed to be the best, the Eastern Europeans a little less so, and the Africans tended to be the worst. The Latin Americans and Russians were a mixed bag.


That for me is the reason why the Wallen has lost its shine. The Western European i.e. Dutch and German girls have all but gone. There was an influx of good providers from Eastern Europe mostly Poles and Czech but they have seemed to thin out as well and they have been taken over by girls from Eastern-Eastern Europe; countries such as Romania. The service that your average Romanian provides isn't close to that of a Dutch girl.

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Re: Returning to Amsterdam after 7 years! Any advice?
Posted: 2017-04-23, 4:29 pm

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I really wonder why though, why the romanian girls in general provide a lower quality service. Do you think trafficking can be a reason?
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