Well said! If it wasn't for the shitty weather 1/2 of the year I would move there as well,,,Mexico:)

Agreed. If you know what to do,who to speak to & where to go, & not just rely on windows for your P4P options, there is no doubt you can have a spectacular time in AMS. I don't buy into that AMS doom & gloom, it's great here.

Me personally, nowadays I like stunning 20-25 yr old 'stick as a rake thin' EE models, all natural, of which there are plenty and for extremely fair & reasonable boarding rate of love tokens! Seriously, what more can a man ever want. I have often stayed much longer, massaging them & talking about life for not anything extra.

I found out to some surprise many of these girls who look like nonchalant barbie brats can be remarkably insightful, pro family & some even quite religious, but above all they are always 100% streetwise. If you show them respect but are also firm & show them that you are the man in the room, you can get a lot back in my experience.

Say what you like,each man to his own, but for me AMS & NL in general, does everything at a good consistent level & as importantly you have always got a great functional social city vibe behind it, meet ups, arts, cycle culture & great food options always available on tap. For me that is vital for the moments when you're not out on a mission to drain your balls with a 9/10 hottie.

IMHO you just can't replicate this overall cozy homely AMS city vibe in Germany or anywhere else for that matter & that's why when it comes down to it, it's always AMS for me. Dank U.

& notice didn't even mention anything about the weed/weed culture yet, that makes AMS the greatest.

I can assure you if you know exactly where to go & I am not talking about any coffee shops in the centrum, AMS has some of the best weed available in Europe. With consistent quality too. No where else have I been in the world were it is perfectly fine to walk pass a Polizie or anyone in the street with a big fat joint with no problem. Do not take that for granted. Add beautiful tourist women here that are DTF every single weekend.A mans paradise. Concerts/Live music available every day of the week if you want it. Canals, amazing parks & architecture from the medieval times while you are cycling around this crazy city on your mountain bike.

Now tell me again, look me in the eye & say AMS is no good anymore & I will say you are a blind man & you wont be getting any hot stroopwaffle with cold vanilla ice cream,with hot choc sauce & whipped cream on top from me.

From The Amsterdam Tourist Board

I don't think anyone is trying to argue that Amsterdam is "no good anymore". When I talk about the decline of Amsterdam, what I'm really talking about is De Wallen.

I love Amsterdam and still visit very frequently, but the one thing I absolutely will no longer partake in is the services in De Wallen. Not once in nearly 15 years of visiting Amsterdam have I visited a girl in De Wallen who I'd visit again. And that's not necessarily because they weren't good encounters, but just because I found it all too common to spend €100 (or more) only to end up being out of a kamer after 20 minutes feeling like I could've better spent that money elsewhere. And yes, I know those kamers aren't cheap to rent, but at the end of the day, it doesn't change the fact that I can get a session of an hour for nearly the same price elsewhere, usually with better service on top (and that's comparing a good experience in De Wallen).

The situation tends to be better outside of the Wallen (Asmara notwithstanding); still not on par with elsewhere in the Netherlands, but at least good enough that I've encountered girls I'd go back to. Girls of De Singel RLD tend to be a lot less restrictive regarding services at the base price (even DFK isn't that uncommon), and many tend to cater to certain fantasies and fetishes that aren't easy to come by elsewhere, which can make it a good option for someone who is looking for something very specific. Time still tends to be expensive though just like De Wallen.

Park 118 can be amazing if you choose the right girl, but it's not cheap once you factor in the cost of the extras that other Dutch prives include in the base price. Some girls are still good enough for me to justify the occasional visit though.

Maybe this is just down to taste, but I tend to look for confidence and enthusiasm over physical beauty. For me, it's not so much about individual specific activities as it is about the experience as a whole. Having to negotiate extras always dampens an experience, as does asking my likes because then it just feels like the girl is making a mental checklist of things to satisfy me (and conversely may avoid doing anything I didn't mention).

The best girl is one who'll take me into a room and try to get her tongue in my mouth before I've even told her my name, then proceed to just show me all of her expertise. I think most people tend to forget that these girls are supposed to be professional sex workers, which in my view means these girls should be to sex what a professional musician is to music. And it should be obvious why we're there in any case; I don't think many people who are paying for sexual services are going to object when a girl does sexual things to them without asking first. Worst case scenario: A customer declines something, both move onto something else, no harm done.

Anyways....

Aside from commercial sex, I have no issue at all with Amsterdam as a whole. It's a great place with tons of amazing things to see and do, and great places to eat and drink. Nearly 15 years on, I still feel the magic when walking out of Centraal Station after arriving in Amsterdam. A feeling of excitement and anticipation that can't really be explained, even when I have no specific activities planned. Honestly, it's a unique feeling that I haven't encountered anywhere else.

100% this. Ams is clearly not as good as it was 10-15 years ago, but I still love it.

Enjoying all the great perspectives in this thread. I visited the Netherlands frequently circa 1999 to 2001 and enjoyed my adventures in various towns and cities, including the main RLDs. Ladies in the main Amsterdam RLD like tall Martina (“Lady M”) of Slovakia (with a stunning physique like a young Shannon Elisabeth); Blue Jean Anne not too far from OzA (she with a very slinky bod, mischievous smile, and looks somewhat akin to French actress Sophie Marceau); blonde 5ft10 Dutch beauty Jessica of Holland. And so many others.

Regardless of venue (ex: RLD, escort, MP, etc.) or location, I’ve become more fussy with my P4P mindset over the years. The politics of SESTA/FOSTA have nudged numerous independent escorts to be very selective with their use of social media and just how they market themselves. There anecdotally seem to be more cases of sex workers being “outed”, sadly. From the hobbyist/client side, I’ll opine that while there are plenty of opportunities out there with desirable women in P4P pursuits, some elements perhaps aren’t as good as years/decades ago.

First, I’d say there’s a sense of “dilution” some guys feel. More misrepresentation and guys being looked at as ATMs by some super-aggressive girls. Being nickeled and dimed to death in a RLD setting, when there used to be an era that covered F&S/multiple positions were the standard in units of time at 50E/15 minutes. The escort scenes often are such that the gap between a lady’s true age and advertised age can sometimes be 10+ years. If they’re truthful that they’re nearly 40 or more, their business can suffer mightily. As a guy gets into his 50s and beyond, the direction of one’s life can change significantly, with P4P perhaps taking a back seat to pressing life priorities, and yes, retirement planning.

Does this really bother anyone though? As long as a girl can pass for the age in her profile and can provide a great service, I don't really see why it should make a difference? It's the same with prives too; it's so common that I just assume +20-30% to any stated age. A girl I've been visiting frequently over the last few years advertises as 39 and could probably pass for that, but she is actually 53. Most girls will tell you their true age if you ask.

I think this would be a bigger problem to guys who are looking for older girls, as it can be very hard to find a girl who is 40+ if you don't know any better and just assume the profile ages are real. I only know one prive that actually advertises a girl of 50+, and even they aren't truthful with advertised ages (I visited a "40+" there who told me she is 52, so the "50+" girl is probably in her 60's).

I would agree entirely there are more P4P options in Germany, which suppose is fairly logical given the difference of the two countries compared by size.

I guess what I was saying was in terms of living a day to day life based in what I truly believe to be the best city in the world. Amsterdam cannot be beat. Ticks all the boxes which Germany can't & never will. Buy an apartment in AMS if you can, the housing market is finally starting to slow down for the first time in a long time. Best thing you will ever do with your money, it will never go down in value & you will have the indulgent pleasures of living here too.

Or buy & retire in another major NL city & you can find good 100 Sq/M apartments/small houses all over the place on canals for 125-150k Euros you cant go wrong. Use NL as your base & Germany is only ever a short drive or train ride away. Best of both worlds. Dank U.