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Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-10-29, 8:58 pm

Souljah
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I’m visiting AMS for the 1st time next month. I’ll be there for only 2 days so I don’t want to be unprepared.

I am of Indian ethnic origin but born and bred in South Africa.
Is there any issues with girls in windows not wanting to service clients based on race or will offer a lesser service because of this ?

Also do the girls allow you to come down on them?

Finally any recommendations for a young under 25 blonde girl who provides an unrushed service?
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-10-30, 4:26 am

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I know one escort that will only see Dutch guys, and a few that only see white guys.
They have their reasons.
If you approach, they will pull the curtain or turn away if they are not interested.
This will be very rare. THey are more likely to turn you away if you are drunk, disheveled, or strike them as dangerous.

DATY should be negotiated in advance. Some love it, some charge extra, some will not do it at all.
Not likely to happen at 50. For 100, I would expect half an hour, everything off, and at least one extra like DATY.
My unscientific guess is that you are only going to find 50% of girls say yes, and a few of those will not deliver.
Included with most escorts, and FKK's. Seems to be pretty standard at Park 118.

Beyond Simona, I don't know any reliable blonds in the Wallen any more.
She is not 25 any more, but she has great skill and attitude, and a formidable list of (expensive) extras.
I could say the same for Veronica daytime, but I have not seen her in a year.
There are a few nice ones in the Pijp, and in Alkmaar.

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Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-10-30, 1:31 pm

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I will say, unfortunately, a lot of the girls I see have told me they don’t like Indian men. They tell me their hygiene is often not good, they don’t trim their pubic hair, and often just act disrespectfully. So you may have some problems, but I think as long as you approach respectfully and make sure you don’t smell bad and are clean and well groomed, you should be ok. Unfortunately, Indian men just seem to have a bad reputation in the area, so you’ll have to be extra diligent about the hygiene and grooming and how you talk to the girls. Just so you’re aware.

Simona would have been a great suggestion, but unfortunately she’s gone now. Stopped working at the end of September. Veronica is still great had many great sessions with her this past trip, but she is on vacation right now, so if you’re going soon, she might not be around.
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-10-30, 3:25 pm

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Unfortunately, racism is alive and well in De Wallen. Possibly more so now than in years past, since non-Dutch immigrants make up the bulk of working girls. Many girls now are from other countries and seem to have brought regressive racist traits with them. Follow Grimnul's advice and try not to take it personally if you get the cold shoulder. Negotiate everything up-front. 100 is the minimum charge for 30 minutes in De Wallen. One extra (like DATY) may be included or may be an extra charge.
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-10-30, 5:40 pm

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Is it racist though to practise a preference that is mindful of being respected and safe?
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-10-30, 6:12 pm

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officematt2002 wrote:
Is it racist though to practise a preference that is mindful of being respected and safe?
This is a good question. I have heard even from pretty liberal ladies over here in Canada that they find Indian men disrespectful and that they often have an “I’m in charge, you do what I say” attitude that a lot of them don’t like. That, to me, is fair. Cultures are different, and if these ladies find that men from a certain culture tend to act in particular ways that they don’t like, I think it’s fair for them to refuse clients from those cultures. I think it’s also fine if they just have preferences about what kind of men they like. You can’t choose what you find attractive, and they shouldn’t be forced to work with clients they find unattractive.

That said, there is definitely a lot of pretty blatant racism and homophobia from a lot of the ladies in De Wallen. I just think a lot of Slavic/Eastern European countries simply aren’t as tolerant. It is what it is.
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-10-30, 9:34 pm

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Thanks for your candid comments.

Its unfair to generalise because despite a type of race/ethnicity, there are huge individual variations.

In fact I would agree 100% that most Indian men from the Indo/Pak subcontinent lack hygiene and standards but some of us that are born & bred in other non-asian countries are far more sophisticated and hygienic than even some British men Ive encountered in my travels who seem to be allergic to showers lol

In fact personally I would consider myself of much higher class than most but sadly someone who works as prostitute behind a window may lack the insight and not be able to distinguish this.

Are my chances better at a privehuis?
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-10-31, 3:30 am

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On a given night, walking past a hundred rooms, if I click with more than a handful of women in windows it's a good evening; for whatever reason.

Everyone has their own chemistry, and two need to match. One of my sharp, adorable, recently former, Master's students from the Ukraine has a thing for Indian-looking men. We name the one she works with 'handsome', when we talk well about him behind his back.

Clothes make the man, as does his manner. Out of experience or nature, a lot of these women read 'good man' within moments of your passing - walk by slowly with intelligence, keep smiling, and meet her eyes. Choose the girl that draws you in; even if it turns out she's 28 or 32, you'll be better off if she chooses you rather than you choosing her - then you negotiate.

... Eric
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-10-31, 9:26 am

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Eric wrote:
Clothes make the man, as does his manner.


I think this is very true. You can have good luck in De Wallen no matter skin color when carrying yourself mindfully.

A giggling and pointing group (as many young men from various nationalities/cultures/races do) will be one big strike against. On the other hand carrying oneself with dignity and projecting that dignity toward the girls will be one big mark in favor.

There will be extreme bigots, who will reject based solely on skin color. However, many (most?) of these girls are intelligent entrepreneurs who make snap decisions about how best to maximize profit. I think these women are going to make a more sophisticated assessment of a potential client.

I think it is fair to make initial assessments of people based on superficial characteristics. It's not fair to stop there. Despite its unfairness, racism is a fact of life that even the most "woke" are guilty of. Awareness is most of the battle.

Soulja, I hope you choose to go for De Wallen and report back your first-hand experience.
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-11-01, 12:41 pm

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IQ wrote:
Eric wrote:
Clothes make the man, as does his manner.


I think this is very true. You can have good luck in De Wallen no matter skin color when carrying yourself mindfully.

A giggling and pointing group (as many young men from various nationalities/cultures/races do) will be one big strike against. On the other hand carrying oneself with dignity and projecting that dignity toward the girls will be one big mark in favor.

There will be extreme bigots, who will reject based solely on skin color. However, many (most?) of these girls are intelligent entrepreneurs who make snap decisions about how best to maximize profit. I think these women are going to make a more sophisticated assessment of a potential client.

I think it is fair to make initial assessments of people based on superficial characteristics. It's not fair to stop there. Despite its unfairness, racism is a fact of life that even the most "woke" are guilty of. Awareness is most of the battle.

Soulja, I hope you choose to go for De Wallen and report back your first-hand experience.



Some of excellent and reassuring advice here.
I forgot to mention I look more Arab than Indian and hope the girls don’t see me as a cash cow which I’m not!

Another noob question. Is there showers in the kamers? How do the clients and girls wash up?
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-11-01, 2:43 pm

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I believe some kamers have showers, but they’re not generally for clients to use. Shower at your hotel before you go. Many of the ladies have bidets, and often have antibacterial sprays they use.
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-11-01, 10:51 pm

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Souljah wrote:
I look more Arab than Indian and hope the girls don’t see me as a cash cow which I’m not!

Another noob question. Is there showers in the kamers? How do the clients and girls wash up?


Just don't wear a thobe and gutra or your rolex. :)

If no bidet, many will have a lavatory (sink) in the kamer. Request to use it afterward for a quick stand-up wash and they will usually oblige with soap and paper towels.

One more bit of advice, if I may. I find that I can often be drawn to girls who initially seem cold toward me. I think it's psychological in that I want something that is harder to get. I have learned to steer away from this tendency. I have a much better time with girls who offer me a sweet smile. I make my decisions based first on body type, then sweet smile, and finally based on congeniality upon negotiation. I reserve the will to walk away if the negotiation is not satisfactory.
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-11-02, 8:13 am

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Just to add to the excellent advise already given, usually if the girls aren't interested in you, for whatever reason, they will carry on looking at their phone or ignore the fact you are outside their window . If they have an interest they will engage with you.
Don't forget the girls all work against time ,they'll give you the time you agreed but once you're finished the sooner you're out of the room the sooner they're ready for next client.
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-11-10, 3:16 pm

Souljah
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All good advice thanks.

Another question.

Do the window girls offer foot fetish and toe sucking?
Will that be extra cost?
What should things like Daty and toe sucking be expected to cost extra?
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-11-10, 5:10 pm

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Souljah wrote:
All good advice thanks.

Another question.

Do the window girls offer foot fetish and toe sucking?
Will that be extra cost?
What should things like Daty and toe sucking be expected to cost extra?


This depends entirely on the girl. If you’re not having sex and just want foot fetish play, you may be able to swing that for just 50 Euro. I would also cut De Wallen out of the equation and head straight to De Pijp or Singel RLDs.

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Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-11-12, 10:10 pm

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Grimnul pretty much on point with his comments.
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-11-12, 10:12 pm

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Grimnul is pretty much on point with his comments.

I've been "rejected" by two or three whores long time ago. (I agree that it's their body and business etc). I was fairly young at the time, trained at the gym, quite tall, not brad pitt but decent looking bloke (I would say). And still got rejected. Genuinely would be curious to know the reasons, not that I would give an actual fuck bit just out of curiosity. I guess, it's all up to what the girl sees you for.

The last 4/5 times I was in dam and didn't bother with the main red light. The hague, depipj and alkmaar much cheaper and nicer.
Re: Some newbie questions
Posted: 2019-11-13, 12:03 am

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Vkcs20 wrote:

The last 4/5 times I was in dam and didn't bother with the main red light. The hague, depipj and alkmaar much cheaper and nicer.


Wouldn’t say De Pijp is much cheaper - it’s pretty much the same price, however ive had better experiences there.
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