Hey there. I'm taking a trip to Amsterdam with some buddies over the holidays and I think this would be a good opportunity to lose my virginity (I'm 27 if that is important). I'm just wondering if there's anything I should be on the lookout for. I'm an introvert and being in social situations for long periods of time tends to drain me. I've been reading around and it sounds like the common recommendation for a V-card service is Society Service and it sounds like there's a requirement to spend a couple hours with the lady before the actual sex which worries me a bit. I can make conversation but my interests are very left field and being in an awkward silence is one of my biggest fears. I'm just looking for someone pleasant to be around who would just help me lose my virginity, if that makes any sense. The ultra high-end services are also outside of my budget (500 euro).

I've read up on the options and it seems like a privhuis would be my best bet. I've heard the name Park 118 a couple times as a quality establishment but I am also open to any other recommendations. I'm just worried that if I tell them I'm a virgin, they'd turn me away. Are there any tips on how much information/how I should tell them the manager/girl?

Thanks!

I will say for what it’s worth, I’m about as introverted as they come (and I have a severe anxiety disorder to boot) and I’ve never had a problem with Society Service dates being awkward. They train their ladies very well. They will make you feel comfortable. Your budget isn’t too far off a 2 hour date with them (which is their minimum), I’d try to see if you can scrape another 200 euros together, it’ll be very worth it. You only get one first time, window girls or a prive will always be a risk, Society Service is as close to a sure thing as you can get in this business. If you’re gonna do it, do it right, right?

I believe with a 2 hour date, the rule is no sexual contact for the first half hour, so that’s not too bad. You can just have her come to your hotel (assuming you’re at a hotel they’ll come to), and just chill in your room together. You don’t have to go anywhere or anything if you don’t want to. I do it all the time.

If you opt for Park 118, I'd highly recommend booking a girl with good reviews, since apparently not all the girls there provide good service. My personal recommendation would be Lola; I'm sure you'd be well taken care of with her. Be aware that the prices at Park 118 are base prices, which typically means covered blow job and sex (and maybe massage); if you're interested in other things (kissing, eating pussy, anal, uncovered blow job, etc.) then you'll pay more, and not every girl will offer every service. So for example, an hour with Lola including kissing and pussy eating costs €180 (that's €100 for the hour, plus €80 to her in the room for the extras).

I don't have experience with Society Service, but I'd imagine it's all-inclusive (so no paying for extras). Not that I haven't been tempted, but €700 - plus the cost of a night at a good hotel - is a lot of money to blow, and I just can't see how it would be that much better than some of the best experiences I've had at privehuis - both inside and outside of Amsterdam - to justify it, even if it is your first time.

For what it's worth, I also lost my virginity to a working girl; she was an independent escort in the UK, and I was very up front before the visit about my virginity and shyness. The girl was great at making sure I was relaxed and had a memorable experience. That visit cost me £120 and it was probably the best way I could've done it at the time; no reason for me to spend hundreds on an escort agency.

Now that I read the requirements a closer, I don't think my hotel will be up to par. I'm also seeing a minimum price of 950 euro on the website for the virgin experience package. Is the 750 euro package a special rate?



Yea, I think this is going to be one of those things where you get what you put into it. Is there a review site for the other girls anywhere? I see that there are reviews for various girls on the ignatzmice front page, but typing a specific girl's name into the forum search bar or google usually doesn't come up with any results.

I second Society Service, but if it's out of your budget, so be it. Look for another option. I think De Wallen is a valid option mainly because of the variety of girls to choose from. The prives are to0 limited in options for my taste. Plus I get a thrill from wandering De Wallen and checking out all the flesh.

Don't worry about being a virgin. If anything, revealing your status can be a plus. Yes, it may make you a target for upselling, but that is true for any noob in De Wallen. Telling a girl up-front, "Dear lady, I am a virgin and I would like you to pop my cherry" is flattering and can do wonders. Yes, some girls may not be into it, but there are quite a few sweet ladies (trust your instinct, not your pecker) who will enjoy taking your virginity from you along with your cash.

Great that you have set a budget. Unless you just want to get it over with, plan to spend an hour or more and save some money for going back the next day.

Wander around until you find a girl who suits you (better value is found in the alleyways than on the canals themselves), then negotiate for 20 minutes for 50 euros. You may not get sex for that price in De Wallen, but you will know after 20 minutes if there is the right chemistry. Don't commit to more than 50 euros until you have spent a little intimate time together. If the chemistry isn't there, say thanks and leave to find another girl. It's all part of the process. If your pecker tells you she is the one, then dig up another 50-150 to do things right: fully naked, multiple positions, sex (be explicit in your request including any other extras you want (DATY, BJ, etc.)

If at the end you can't remember the way back to your hotel, you have done it correctly.

I find the best approach is to search Dutch review site Hookers.nl and Google Translate the results. So for example, if you want to find Lola of Park 118, you can enter a Google search like this:

site:hookers.nl Lola Park 118

This will give you only results from the website hookers.nl, and you can click "Translate this page" on a result to get an automatic English translation of that page.

Also, I'd just like to point out that an unplanned encounter in De Wallen is probably the worst option available not just in Amsterdam, but possibly the whole of Europe. Highest risk of poor service or worse, and at best you'll still be way overpaying.

I haven't visited a single girl in De Wallen in 15 years who I'd return to, and that includes some a few of the most reputable girls on this forum. Overrated is an understatement. By all means have a wander around the area, but for an actual good experience, better go elsewhere.

If you were to visit a lady in the RLD, two I can think of who could be good to visit for a first time would be Veronica and Ella both work in the daytime and have good reviews. With those two I'd be tempted to go for a slightly longer session to relax and tell them it's your first time.

This would be my recommendation. Ella’s a very nice girl, and Veronica is probably the best lady currently working in De Wallen, in my opinion.

Agree Ella would be a good choice . Also recommend Agneiska as an excellent choice

Thanks for the replies everyone. After going through all the virgin reports (there's a lot of them!) I settled on going the prive route. I think I'll do a trip myself just to burn the whole thing to memory ;) I read some good things about SocietyService, Courtesian Club, and Dreams & Desires, but I it's been a struggle to increase the budget.

For anyone who went the prive route before, it sounds like you walk in and the hostess greets you? Is it at this point that I tell her I'm a virgin or after I select the girl I fancy?

I've only visited Park 118 once, several years ago, so i can't be too specific about that prive in particular, but I used to visit another prive very regularly (that was Asmara, which seems to get poor reports these days). A prive is a good choice if you want something a bit more relaxed and less rushed than a red light session, but you don't have the cash for fancy escort services.

I seem to remember you ring the bell at Park 118 and the hostess / receptionist will let you in; the place looks fairly anonymous from outside so you are looking for the 118 number on the door or buzzer. If they seem friendly you could ask her at the beginning if they recommend anyone in particular for a first time experience - you are quite likely to be asked if you've been there before, then they will start explaining prices, how it works and so on.

The usual routine at this kind of place is for the girls to make a brief appearance one by one, saying "Hi, I'm Amy" or whatever, you say a brief hello and then they disappear again (at Asmara they used to do this; although they changed it so that they would appear one by one then stand in a line until you made a choice!)

Just try to remember the name of the girl you like the most when they do this - if you prefer Zoe to Amy, just remember Zoe, don't try to remember all the names. There are usually a handful of girls available at any one time in a place like this, but it depends on the time of day or day of the week.

It may work best to make a choice by instinct - maybe not the hottest girl but the one who gives you a nice smile, so you are physically attracted but they also seem like a warm, friendly kind of person. It can sometimes be better if the girl is slightly older than you - they might not look exactly like your personal fantasy but they have plenty of experience and know how to make you feel at ease.

You will probably get shown to the room and the girl you chose joins you a couple of minutes later. I think the usual thing is that you are told to take a shower first (shower is in the room), although at Park 118 I seem to remember choosing a slightly more expensive room with a big circular bath and getting in that with the girl.

I doesn't matter too much about being a virgin - it may seem a big deal to you, but it doesn't make much practical difference when you visit a prive. Whoever greets you at the door will explain how the place works, and when you are alone with the girl, they usually have a standard routine for the session which doesn't require much knowledge, experience or initiative on your part. Forget porno scenes where the man takes charge - just let the girl do whatever she usually does and go along with it.

In my prive visits at Asmara, the girl would enter the room while I was in the shower and when I emerged she'd be undressed, waiting by the bed with a towel laid out and her massage oil, condoms e.t.c ready. They would massage my back for a while with oil and then I'd turn over and they'd massage my front. At this point they would start touching my dick and then put a condom on it before starting a blow job. At Asmara there was usually some body-to-body massage so at some point you'd feel the girls boobs pressing against your back, or they'd drape them over your dick before starting the blow job. When the sex began they would usually start in cowgirl (i.e girl on top, facing you) so you could literally just lie there and do nothing... after a bit of that you could choose another position. An hour session is nice - there is plenty of time for a relaxing massage before the sex.

Park 118 may be slightly different in the details, but the point is that there is usually a routine and you can just go along with it and have a nice time. Don't worry about having anything much to say, just make a little bit of conversation by asking basic stuff like how old are you, where are you from, how long have you worked here or how long have you been in Amsterdam. Don't get too personal - "how / why did you become a prostitute" is a bit much but you could ask what they think of working there or something like that. You will probably get asked similar things like where are you from, what do you do, is this your first time here in Amsterdam or at the prive. There is quite likely to be some music on, and if you just relax and enjoy the massage without talking much it's fine. You don't *have* to tell the girl you are a virgin, you could just say you are nervous because it's your first time in a place like this, but it might help to tell her so she understands why you seem shy or nervous. Remember that the girls are just normal people doing a job and trying to earn some money - they won't expect you to be a sex god or brimming with witty banter, they just want a customer who seems OK and treats them with a bit of respect. If you think the girl is very pretty or has nice boobs or a particularly nice ass, tell her - I've never met a working girl who didn't like sincere compliments! It's one of the few occasions it would be appropriate to say "You have a really nice ass!" to a relative stranger ;)

For the actual sex, the girl will usually help guide your dick into the right place - it doesn't really matter if you a virgin, these girls are quite capable of taking charge of the session, they will put the condom on, all you have to do is just try to relax and enjoy it. When I was inexperienced I would fumble around a little bit in doggy, trying to poke my cock in the right place or struggling to get it inside, and the girl would just take my dick, place it up against her hole and say "push!" :)

It can be easy to overthink things, and as a result you might feel more anxious than horny at the start of the session. I find the best thing is to concentrate on the girl's body, or the sensations of the massage, rather than worrying about whether you should be hard by now or thinking of something to say. If your nerves are making it more difficult than usual to get an erection, it can help if you touch the girl - e.g touch her boobs or pussy while she jerks you off, and just concentrate on the feeling of touching the girl's body.

I'm not sure if pussy-touching is a standard thing at Park 118; usually I'll ask if I can touch a girl's pussy before I do it just to make sure. In a prive you can normally do this - in the RLD it varies from girl to girl. Don't try to put your fingers inside a girl as they are unlikely to allow this, also kissing is not usually part of a standard session (it's possible some girls might do it in a prive, others might offer it as an 'extra').

It's normal to have some kind of nerves or personal hangups before doing something like this for the first time. Everyone is different - one person will be worried about cumming before the sex has even started, someone else is worried that they will be too nervous to get a proper hardon, someone else feels guilty and keeps having second thoughts. Just enjoy spending some time with a naked girl and don't think too much - the more you relax, the more horny you will feel. Don't treat it like some kind of test or make it into too much of a big deal - you might find that the session you remember best is not the first one, but one where you met a really nice hot girl and felt more relaxed.

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The RLD - there are some hot girls but the atmosphere is a bit more pressured, a typical session is fairly short and basic, and it can be very hit and miss whether you get good service if you choose a random girl - e.g. you agree €50 at the door but they want €100 for sex or keep suggesting you pay more for x,y,z (upselling). It can help if you pick one of the girls recommended here such as Ella, and the RLD could be a fun experience after you've tried a prive. At least have a good look around! There are more girls on nights and the atmosphere is more lively, but some of the better girls are found during the day when the place is less busy and it's easier to wander about without getting caught up in the crowds.

My personal rec for a really nice girl on dayshift is Adriana on Stoofsteeg - her room is third on the right coming from Oudezijds Voorburgwal (4L). She's very petite with really tiny boobs - if you like that kind of look she's great, and would be a nice choice for a nervous first-timer because she's so friendly and relaxed.

If you are planning to visit any particular girl in the RLD it would help to study this map - you can click on the streets to see pictures of the actual windows: http://www.amsterdam-red-light-district-maps.com/Georges-Interactive-Map-Of-Amsterdams-Main-Red-Light-District.html For example Adriana's room is marked 4L in this picture - http://www.amsterdam-red-light-district-maps.com/stoofsteeg4.html It can be frustrating to try and find a particular girl (they could be on holiday or taking the day off or moved to a different window) but if you have a few choices hopefully at least one will be around.

If you want a slightly wild hottie you could look for Angel who was working very close to Adriana at Stoofsteeg 6-4 on days last time I saw her - see this pic http://www.amsterdam-red-light-district-maps.com/AmsterdamStoofsteeg2012a.html. Adriana and Angel were working either side of the shop in the second picture on that link. Angel will ask for €100 minimum (and try to persuade you into spending more) but she's really fun and talks enough for both of you. Petite and very sexy with recently enlarged boobs, she is good at ensuring you have a good time and looks very fuckable when you walk past!

Have fun on your trip!

Excellent tips. Thank you good sir!

That may be me. I've only visited Asmara once, and it was worst encounter I've ever had anywhere. I feel like Asmara lured me in via the explicit promise of a "60 minute session with body-to-body massage, 69, and sex" (thus no uncertainty or hassle of negotiation!), and while the girl technically fulfilled the services advertised, it was in the worst way possible. I also knew before going that the pictures on the website were obviously fake, which should been a huge red flag, but I nonetheless decided to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I don't know why I agreed to a session once I got there; all six of the available girls looked depressed like they didn't want to be there. But I guess I knew what services I'd be getting, so it couldn't be that bad, right?

The entire experience was so rushed that it was over in 15 minutes, and the girl insisted on use of a dental damn for 69. Then she gave me a choice: Either give her more money to continue, or she'd just lie doing nothing there so as to run down the remaining 45 minutes of the session I'd paid for.

The experience was so bad as to make me never want to take a chance on Asmara again. So I guess the only thing I'll add to what Aldebran Linkbat wrote is this: Don't be afraid to decline all girls and walk away from a prive if you're not keen on the girls currently available. For me, this doesn't happen often, but when it does, I usually just say something like "maybe I'll come back later".

As much as I've enjoyed and recommended Park 118, I must admit that my experience there is fairly limited. Only three girls in recent years (one who has since left), but all of them were excellent. Still, I think Park 118 is maybe a "mid-tier" prive in the grand scheme of Dutch prives, but it's the best one I'm aware of in Amsterdam.

Outside Amsterdam, my "top-tier" prive would probably be Fleur in Apeldoorn. I've visited over a dozen girls there over the years, and I'd return to all but one of them (and that was mainly just due to language barrier). The tendency of Fleur girls is for them to get their tongue in your mouth as soon as you're in the room, usually without asking you. They're so warm and friendly and really seem to enjoy sex.

The only caveat to Fleur is that it may not be a great place for those who prefer younger girls. Definitely more of a MILF paradise, but the website does advertise a few 20+ girls, although I haven't visited those girls myself.

That’s a really bad experience for a prive- in line with the worst experiences in the RLD. I’ve only been to Park 118 in Amsterdam and I had a similar poor experience with Charlotte recently where the session ended only roughly 20 minutes in to a 1 hour booking and she wasn’t interested in offering anything else for the remaining time. The hostess also insisted the lady is free to choose what she does and therefore there wasn’t even a partial refund. I wouldn’t put the experience quite as bad as yours sounds but it was poor.

Some good advice in these posts. I would add that even at places such as Park 118, try to follow the recent reviews if you want a better chance of a good service. There are some girls who had good reviews previously but a few negative ones recently so something has clearly changed.

I've had a couple mediocre experiences many years ago at Park 118 too, but nothing even close to as bad as Asmara or even what you describe. To be honest, I don't visit Park 118 that often these days as I prefer places outside of Amsterdam. To put things in perspective, I've only visited three girls at Park 118 over the last five years, and all three have been fantastic. Beyond those three though, I can't really say very much about Park 118 myself.