Hi all,

I’ve been a regular visitor to Amsterdam for what must be close to 20 years now—maybe a bit less—but I’ve also been a long-time lurker and occasional poster here.

My last trip was in 2023, and to be honest, I found it a bit disappointing compared to previous visits. The overall cost of the trip had noticeably increased, and I also saw a clear reduction in the number of windows, which definitely affected the overall experience.

That said, I’ve recently started feeling the usual annual urge to plan another visit—probably looking at September.

Can anyone give me an up-to-date situation report on how things are at the moment? I’m especially interested in:
• The general vibe in the city and RLD area
• Current state of the window scene (number, locations, quality)
• Typical costs and availability these days

Thanks

Well,

The general vibe has not changed much since 2023. It is not what it was pre-Corona, and it is not ever likely to be that way again. International tourism is down, but Dutch visitors to Amsterdam are up, and the total numbers are a wash. Be aware of Dutch school holiday weeks. Museums and events will be packed!
Prices are up, and are especially brutal in the Centrum. Getting out of that area, sometimes only by 2-3 blocks, significantly reduces food and alcohol costs. You can't buy alcohol from a store in the Wallen after 1600 on weekends, so stock up early, or walk a few blocks to a different neighborhood, where they don't have that silly rule. Getting out of Amsterdam entirely can be a breath of fresh air. The farther away you get , the more it feels like what I remember from the good old days. There is still plenty to do in the city. Museums, festivals, and public transit are still great. You just have to plan a little.
The window scene is changing fast. Except for the Wallen, prices are pretty standard at 50E/15, 100E/30, 200E/60.
This is true in Alkmaar, Singel, the Pijp, Antweerp, Den Haag....Most of these RLD's are about 2/3 full daytime, less nights and weekends. Service is what you would expect, and many of these areas are growing at the expense of the Wallen.
The Wallen is a mine field. Stunning EE girls will negotiate with you at the window, where you will find costs of 100-150 to get in the door after negotiations. Unfortunately, once in the door, and money has changed hands, the problems begin. A recurring theme is for the girl to produce a "menu" with additional costs for the previously negotiated fun. Some of these secret charges are hundreds of euros. The Wallen is the most expensive and least reliable place to shop at the moment. It is frequently cheaper to have an hour of incall through Kinky.nl than to have a 15 minute session in the Wallen. Ugh!
Service in the SIngel and the Pijp is much better, though the girls tend to be older. The best girls in these areas are very busy ,and can fill an entire day with regulars that make appointments by phone. To meet them, you will have to show up at the begining of a shift (10:30 AM works well). You may have to settle for a date later in the day, but that is just the way it is now. If you have a good time, get that phone number!

Thank you Weasel

I appreciate your reply and information

Do you live there ?

I am thinking of visiting Antwerp for the first time . Do you have any general advice ?

Can you recommend me any other areas in the Netherlands ?

It sounds like the Singel and De Pijp have not been affected much at all and remain the exact same by day but busier, that information has just confirmed my trip .

What is the Old Church area like these days in the day and night ?

That area was always full

Thanks

No, unfortunately I don't live there.
I spend 3-4 months a year there, and hope to be there half time in 2026.

I can't help with Antwerp. There are good recent reports, but I haven't been there since Sexsklavinnen night ended. Thanks, Covid!

I always recommend Alkmaar, but few people make the 40 minute trip. Early evening (1800-2200) there are many good choices.

Old Church plein still has the African girls. Days were quiet on the few times I was there. Nights were not as crowded on the plein as a few years ago, but OZA and the sidestreets are bad.

Weasel

I come to Amsterdam frequently and stay each time around 10 days. This time I would like to stay for a month or two.

Could you suggest long term stay options, not too expensive but decent. Even if it is far from city center or in suburbs. Thanks.

This is the hardest question I have had in a long time.
Lodging is a disaster.
There has been very little housing construction for years, and...Surprise, there is a huge housing shortage.
Rent control schemes have only made the problem worse. Some news outlets blame expat workers, foreign students and refugees (None of these groups are eligible for subsidized or rent-controlled housing, and they are the most frequent victims of housing scams). That said....
This will be expensive,.
Sure, you could try to live in a backpacker hostel for a month, but I wouldn't recommend it.
AirBNB has been pretty much destroyed by the Hotel Industry and the local politicians that take their money, though Amsterdam based Bookings.com has been quietly left alone. This is a good place to start.
Catered or "serviced" apartments are an option. They require stays of 30 days minimum, so they avoid all the short stay rules. I haven't done this in many years. You get some housekeeping, possibly a parking space. Better than a dorm room, but not near as nice as a hotel. They tended to be near business parks on the ring road.
Short term rentals are rare, and you usually need a Dutch bank account and a BSN (EU Social Security Number), so only possible if you are coming from another EU country.
Boats. There are a lot of boats in the Netherlands. I've stayed on several, Most rent by the week. Getting 4+ consecutive weeks you have to book a year or two in advance.

The real truth is that the best places are found by word of mouth, from friends and relatives. Without that help, you are at a huge disadvantage. Be creative, and be prepared to move around. Maybe 3 or 4 different places on a trip that long.

The other sad truth from a Dutch Realtor "If you can't afford to buy the place, you surely can't afford to rent it!"

Good Luck!

Weasel

Hey,

I recommend den Haag, there are two RLDs with around 50-100 girls each in the evenings. Prices start from 40 Euros (many girls have signs confirming this in their windows) and extras are often 10-20 Euro more (not 50 Euros more like in de Wallen).

Den Haag is now what Amsterdam used to be, a great place to punt.

Amsterdam has closed about 150 windows in the last few years.
Den Haag now has more windows than Amsterdam.

Have you got more information such as a brief verbal guide?

Sorry to lean on you so much the forum is so dead these days

It used to be so busy on here

It would be great to DM you but it won’t let me

Thanks again

Very Funny!
I don't think It is possible for me to do a "brief verbal" anything!

You are welcome to use the private message system. (There are minimum standards for posts or time as a member to use PM's, but it doesn't take much).

I don't mind answering here. Lots of people have similar questions.
I'm back for August (staying in two different places, the boat I wanted was booked for the whole summer).

Weasel

Thank you

I have sent you a DM let me know if you have received it please

Has anyone got any information on Den Haag currently ?

Hey there,

Do you recommend park 118 ? Or do you just use windows? Also any particular alley's or streets in de wallen you recommend? Personally, I've found the girls near the church to be very good and some of the smaller alley's.

Will be going to Antwerp here this week, I will make sure to give some reports. Last, is Villa Tinto any different compared to the regular windows in Antwerp?

Thank you

Park 118 is nice. Very reasonable prices, the Jacuzzi tubs can be fun.
It is just small. Sometimes only 2-3 girls, and never more than 8.
There have been some very good girls there over the years, but there are also times when it is just slow.

I have not been to Antwerp in years, but reports are good. It is not nearly as nice an area as the Wallen, so be a little cautious. Lots of street people up to no good. Wide variety of girls, standard prices.

I don't recommend the Wallen. Wild price increases, spotty service, high potential for rip-offs. If you must go, I would be especially careful on OZA. Mollensteeg and Stoofsteeg have some possibilities, but it is a far cry from what it once was.

I spend my time in the SIngel, Alkmaar, and the Pijp.

Weasel

Hey I got your DM, for some reason I cannot reply back to you, I guess I need to post more in here lol but if its cool with you I can answer your question in here ?

Thanks man, interesting. Seems like you highly recommend Alkmaar? I will have to check that out. How is the day shift there? Worth the trip? I can only imagine what De Wallen was like years back lol, I bet you got all the good stories. I'll make sure to give some reports for Antwerp and Amsterdam later this week.

nodeJitsu - looks like you should be able to reply to PMs now.
It's a necessary anti-spam measure to place some restrictions on new accounts, unfortunately. The site is frequently under attack by spambots and it would be a nasty situation if enough of them managed to get in and fill their sent boxes to the (generous) limit with spam messages to random users. I don't have time for that.

-BlutoBlutarsky

Sounds good, thanks!

Hey gents,

I'm off to check out AMS this weekend after a brief stop in Brussels. Will report back. I'm under no illusions, 100 Euro is the starting point in de Wallen but this is about £85 GBP so fine by me if the service is good. Might make it to de Pijp but will certainly check out de Wallen and Singel in detail.

Trip report incoming... ;-)

Please do let us know after Amsterdam and de Wallen. I have not been there for mongering in 15 years now.

Trip report uploaded to the relevant part of the site!

Current state of play is FUCKING EXCELLENT.

Signing off for the night a happy man