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Tijuana Mexico (La Zona Rosa)
Posted: 2008-02-08, 8:01 am

gyrene
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Just thought I'd throw this in the mix, my 1st time in TJ (or with any lady of the evening for that matter).

I was stationed just north of San Diego, and anyone who has been in the military and has ever been stationed anywhere near San Diego has been to Tijuana (TJ as we lovingly refer to the town) at least on one occassion. For the most part, drunken Marines and Sailors come for the cheap booze and often eazy hook ups with the local gals.

But TJ has a red light district of it's own, and often Sailors and Marines have found themselves walking the short route from "Revolucion to La Zona Rosa" on many different occassions.

April 1997

I was 19, a young Marine, and having a good time in TJ. Me and my buddies were "clubbing" at some of the local venues. The only two that stick out in my mind is Club Iguana's and Club A. The later offered unlimited booze with admission, which at that time was generally around $10. It depended on the size of your group and how well you could talk the doorman down.

Anyway, I digress, I was finishing a wonderful evening of boozing and scamming (So.Cal. term for "making out") with the ladies (none of which panned out, just DFK & a few numbers), when I was approached by a few friendly faces. It was some of our senior enlisted Non-Com's who were out having a good time as well. We all congregated for a few minutes and everyone decided to call it a night except for Sgt. Wolf. He said he was ready for a little bit more fun down in the red light. He invited anyone that wanted to come along, he said he had been a pro and was ready to take some boots (Marine term for noobie) under his wing. I was chompping at the bit and ready to go. I had never paid for sex before and was ready for this new experience.

We walked down Revolucion and turned (don't remember which street/alley) a couple of times. We walked past a few nasty looking street walkers and proceded to another street that had a few "clubs," or what I perceived as clubs anyway. We came to the first one. It was called "Adelita's." "This is it" he said. We were there. Upon entering, we walked around for a few minutes so he could, as he put it "get our bearings." We found a nice cozy spot at the end of the main bar and ordered a "cervesa."

There were more "locals" at this location than I had seen at the clubs on Revolucion. Sgt. Wolf told me how it would play out. One of the gals would come up, introduce herelf, and tell me what she had to offer, as well as the price. From that point on, he said, I would have to negotiate the price if I thought it to be too high.

Looking around there was allot of talent there. At that point in my life I was pretty shallow as far as appearances are concerned, so that's saying allot. I'd say there were at least 20 or so woman in the bar. About 1/3 were dancing up on strategically placed bars/tables. The rest were either chatting up a client or on the dance floor. Most of them looked hispanic, although there were a few darker ones and a few asian looking ones mixed in there as well.

I spotted a Phillipino looking gal not to far from my bar stool. Slender, she was about 5'2", had short black hair and was wearing a little short thigh high dress. She noticed my glancing (glaring?) and came over. She warmly greeted me and told me her name. I was so nervous I forgot her name instantly. She told me it would be $50 for a suck and fuck. I pretended I didn't hear her (which wasn't far from the truth with the loud "club" music playing) and said $40. She said "No, not $40, $50" (politely I might add). I did my best to play along and act disapointed and said "damn, I thought you said $40. All I have is $40." She then said that was okay and quickly escorted me to the awaiting room

We left Adleita's and went to the little hotel that is part of the building. Basicly, you leave out the front entrance, take three steps to the right, and enter that door. We walked up to the window where an attendant asked for $10. I didn't know about this part. I had just told this girl I was down to my last $40, and now I'm going to shell out an extra $10 for this room. I was nervous and thought twice, but the purple-headed-warrior got the best of me and I shelled out the $10. The attendant gave me a towel and her the key. She then asked for the $40 as we were walking the stairs up to the room. I complied and she didn't flinch, so I guess she's had other clients that have fed her the same B.S. story before.

We get into the room. She tells me to take off my pants and lie on the bed. She went to the sink, slipped of her dress, cocked a leg up on the sink, and began playing with her pussy. I notice she is working in some lube (I supposse this is the norm in the sex industry). I was so nervous I still had no erection at this point. She came over to me and started to pull off my boxer shorts. She let out a little gigle when she saw my limp, pathetic dick (I'm okay girth wise, but in length, I'm pretty small, I'm lucky if I make it to 5" hard - more like 4 1/2). She say's that's okay and she's there to make it better.

She puts a condom in her mouth, which kind of confused me at first, as I didn't know what she was doing. But it soon became VERY clear. She went down on me and sucked my dick into the condom. Whatever her technique was, it worked, because I became instantly hard. She soon began to give me an outstanding BJ. after about 5 minutes she got on top of me in the 69 position. I began to rub her ass and inserted a finger into her cooch. She stopped suckking me off, turned around and told me "no, no, no." I told her sorry and she continued for a few minutes more. I was on the edge of cumming, and I think she could sense it, so she quickly changed positions riding cowgirl. A few minutes later I flipped her over and then went doggie. It wasn't too long after that, that I came. She kissed me on the cheek, handed me the towel, andquickly left the room. I cleaned off and was quickly off to meet up with my platoon Sgt.

So that concludes my 1st experience with a "lady of the evening." My last visit to TJ was June of 2004. I might post about that if anyone's intrested.

I've got less than 3 weeks till I'm headed off for Amsterdam. Can't freaking wait! Hope it's all that everyone on the board said it is (and more). Furthermore, I can't wait to post my experinces so some novice (such as myself) can get a better picture of what he's up against as a first-timer to the RLD.

Cheers!
Re: Tijuana Mexico (La Zona Rosa)
Posted: 2008-02-08, 10:59 am

vicgoo
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gyrene,how was TJ in 04?I read some rather scary stories on another site www.internationalsexguide.com on Americans getting shaken down by cops for payoffs when they did,nt do anything wrong,after all it,s legal in Mexico.

I lived 2 hours away from TJ in LA for many years but never found action in TJ but that was before the internet was around so info goes slowly i guess.

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Tijuana Mexico (La Zona Rosa)
Posted: 2008-02-08, 2:18 pm

smuler Power Kat
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Hi..let me add my experiences..

I think the term is Zona Norte ( Is that OK Arthur ??? )

I have been there a couple times, last time Labor Day weekend 2007.

The 3 kinds of P4P are streetwalkers, low end clubs, high end clubs.

Streetwalkers- located in the alley directly behind Adelita's..only 1 block long..you sort of walk through a gauntlet. ( about 25-35 girls on the block. The girls are usually 20 -30 USD , plus 5-6 USD for the room. That is for 1/2 hr .Usually, not too good an experience, but an option for people with limited funds.

Low end clubs- Hong Kong, along with many others on the block..I cannot comment on these clubs, since I do not partake.

High end clubs- 2 main ones..Adelita's and Chicago Club across the street to the right.

These are where the " cream of the crop " live... I will tell you about Adelita's.
Walk in, and get attacked by waiters trying to sell you beer..buy one..I think 3.50 USD . Sit down and observe.

Usually one girl dancing on stage, the rest just siiting in booths, standing against the wall..waiting for customers to approach..Rudimentary Spanish is definitely a plus, but most girls speak English.

My attack plan ( based on reports on the ISG ) , is to find a girl, then watch her, as she cruises the floor..take note of her mannerisms with other clients.. And here is the most important clue...if you see her leave with a client to go to a room, check your watch, and time her departure/arrival. If it isn't 30 minutes ( which is what you get in TJ) , then either the guy popped too quick, or she is a processor...You can figure it out pretty quick, as most of the processors stick together along the back wall ( known as " Hottie Central ". )

The price is now 60 USD, always try to negotiate, but do not haggle over 10 dollars, it will sabotage the session IMHO. I always tell the girl ( Before we go upstairs ), that I will pay her after the session. I show her the money, and then put it back in my wallet. If she says, sure, OK..that is a sign that she should be OK.

Usually..I have not been ripped off..but it has happened..A MILF told be last time that if I could come quick, she would allow 2 shots, but after I came for the first time, she said " you did not come quick enough ", and proceeeded to get dressed. I chalked it up to experience, as I did get one SOG.

Smuler's tips- I only go during the afternoon , as TJ is known as a very dicey place at night, especially if you are alone..Many bandidos waiting to mug you in dark alleys..but the worst of all is the Police !!! Routine shakedowns are common before you reach the US border..They will take all your money, and who can you complain To ??? Even though I walk from the border during the day, I would advise a newbie to take a taxi directly to the club and back. If you are coming from SD, take the trolley to the border..do not drive as break-ins and car thefts are common in border parking lots. Also, when in the room with a girl, never let your valuables ( watch, wallet ) out of your sight, as many girls are thieves.

Enough of me babbling..if anyone needs more info- PM me

Best Regards

Smuler


Arthur- I am sure that you will now say " I am THINKING about going here too "
What I have posted here is a reply based on an ACTUAL visit.

Remember..coming soon, you will need a passport to get in

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Re: Tijuana Mexico (La Zona Rosa)
Posted: 2008-02-08, 4:55 pm

gyrene
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I'd like to add to your comment Smuler (great observations I might add).

On my last trip in 04 I noticed it had been a bit dicier down there. Fortunately, I went in the late afternoon while the sun was still up and had brought along 2 friends of mine. One of which was a large, black, mean looking former Marine, and the other being a large corn fed Iowa farm-boy.

I had heard reports from friends that there were increasing scams going on down there (i.e. homeboys trying to lure tourista's into there shady clubs, muggings, etc), so we decided to take a cab from the border to Adelita's directly, then head back to Revelucion Blvd to party.

The cabbie we chose began to take us there, bu kept insisting to take us to some un-named club down the block from Adelita's. We told him no several times, but he took us anyway. When we got there, a homeboy with a clipboard came out of a sqaulorly looking establishment (no signs on the building) and told us he had a "special" for us. We told them NO very assertivelyy, and stayed in the cab. After about a minute, they gave up and the cabbie proceeded to Adelita's.

I wonder what this was all about, some sort of taxi scam? I have no idea what would be awaiting us in that building, but my spidey-senses were tingling, and I know it wasn't going to be good. I'm sure if we weren't such a montley crew, the cabbie probably would have left us there for a mugging. I have never heard of this happening to anyone else, but then again, I have never been back to TJ or gone on any boards to find out. Hopefully a guy travelling on his own won't find out if it's an ongoing occurance, but consider it a warning.

As far as the rates are concerned, Smuler was right. $60 was the going rate when I was there in 2004 too. Although the gal (Esmeralda), first quoted me $70. We did a little negotiating over a beer and a coke. The coke for her was (correct me if I'm wrong Smuler) $5. So in all reality, I only saved $5 (LOL).

She was one of the girls hanging out up in "Hottie Central" but was not a clockwatcher, although, once I came, she split. But I have accepted that as what to expect in TJ, so I was not disapointed.

As far as the TJ cops are concerned, I've neer been shaken down, but many of my friends have. All it takes is to look at one of them cross eyed and they'll throw you in the back of that stupid pick up truck. My frineds and I always carry our spare money in our wallet and our "real" money/valuables/ID's in our sock.
Re: Tijuana Mexico (La Zona Rosa)
Posted: 2008-02-09, 9:13 pm

busterbrown73
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Gyrene,

I just returned from my first trip to Amsterdam 3 days ago. Some of the current posts will give you an idea of what to expect. I will be posting my 'Dam review in the next day or so. I just posted this response as a viewpoint from a RLD newbie in the Amsterdam forum. http://www.ignatzmice.com/WWWBoard/PHPB ... hp?t=11520. I also was fortunate to visit an FKK in Germany on the last day of my trip. Members here had warned me prior to leaving the States that after I had finished my tour of the 'Dam and the FKK's near Frankfurt, I would never want to go Amsterdam again, unless it was for the soft drugs (which I don't use). Well, guess what, Amsterdam is nice eye candy, but the real deal is when you can have 30-60 naked girls around you wanting to have sex with you in a very comfortable relaxing atmosphere. Half of each session in the Kamers were wasted on just warming up my body and equipment. Read my FKK report I posted. Then go to Amsterdam, have some fun, and wish you were in Frankfurt. Good luck.

Buster

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Re: Tijuana Mexico (La Zona Rosa)
Posted: 2008-02-10, 5:52 am

gyrene
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I did read your report yesterday, and I've got to say, "Well done sir!"

After reading that report I did a little recon on some other message boards and saw that this FKK (as well as a few others) looks like pure bliss! My tickets are already bought and paid for as far as Amsterdam is concerned, but that post definately got me thinking about going to Deutchland next trip abroad. Hopefully sooner than later.

Funny question, you guy's might get a chuckle out of it - They let you string 2 towels together if your a bigger guy at the FKK's that have those "small" towels?

Thanks again Buster for that insightful report! Haven't even stepped foot in AMsterdam yet and am already looking forward to Frankfurt!

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Re: Tijuana Mexico (La Zona Rosa)
Posted: 2008-02-11, 2:53 am

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~"Haven't even stepped foot in AMsterdam yet and am already looking forward to Frankfurt!"

That's exactly what I was thinking before I left! Amsterdam is overly commercialized so to speak where the German FKK's were conceptualized just for us mongers. Case in point, can't tell you how many times I saw a tour group of senior citizens (even children) walking the RLD and just laughing and pointing at the windows, almost like it was a show without any respect to the reality of the industry. As for the FKK's, only the solidarity of mongers are present at any one time and you don't ever see Grandma laughing at the girl just before you f*ck her brains out!

But Amsterdam is a good warm up run if you can somehow end your trip with a few days in "bliss". It's like a nice sweet vinaigrette dressing on your salad just teasing your taste buds for that "oh so delightful" tiramisu after dinner.

Have fun, play safe.

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Re: Tijuana Mexico (La Zona Rosa)
Posted: 2008-02-11, 8:13 am

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On one visit one of the FKK girls was telling me, "you know, some men make this their vacation! They take days off of work, stay at a hotel nearby, and come here all day!" She said it with this sense of anticipated shared amazement, but I was only amazed that she was amazed.
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