hi all this is my first post on this excellent site
since about 05 i visited amsterdam for the first time i then proceeded to visit every quarter at least until about 8 months ago as i was became bored of it because of my frequent visits .... but i am now busting to visit holland again but maybe not amsterdam this time since apart from getting lost on the train and ending in haarlem for about 5 mins i have never been anywhere else in holland im planning about 6 days
hiring a car and driving all across holland visiting all the rld`s along the way and checking other things holland has to offer .... id especially like to visit a tipplezone/s
i remember hearing of 1 with pink benches and gates you have to drive in thru
also id like to see one of those sex farms ive heard about maybe cross to germany for a fkk ??? any help with locations would be great also whats the locals english like in other parts of holland ??
im trying to learn dutch
but its reallly hard to pronounce dutch words when you look at them with english eyes
ive made a pratt of myself enuff times trying to ask directions to de pijp
one couple covered the ears of their child lol
thanks
paul
p.s great site my visits would of been less enjoyable if i never had the 50 pages of print outs from your site even if some git stole em in amnesia when i went to the loo ( if my memory serves me correctly lol)
happy days all :-)

oops i just noticed that was actaully my 4th post i gotta stop smoking bud

hi mate nice post. If you're driving, you should defo do an FKK. Never done it myself bu I heard that FKK GT is one of the good ones near the border.

Alkmaar is supposed to be good and cheaper than Amsterdam, RLD-wise.

You can learn bits of the language from tapes and stuff, I saw a good phonetic phrase book in the airport bookshop once.

Haha, Amnesia. guess he didn't wanna shag the girl you can see from this coffeeshop. I don't think she's a looker though - has anyone here shagged her?

yes my m8 was doing her whilst i waited in amnesia trying to get cheeky pics of the girl next door think the woman my m8 done was called katarina from venezuala when we walked past she was bent over smacking her bum kinda resembling marilyn monroe from one her movies ...kinda funny as when we walked past and noticed her an italian bloke saw her and mumbled to his mate marilyn monree in a funny accent ...
any ways any help with tipplezones and sexfarms and stuff would be great maybe a few kamers too any1 have locations of tipplezones over holland
regards
paul
u.k

you refer to the decade-old WSG posts about "sex farms near the Belgian border"? real or not, I can't tell you, but it sounds awfully Spinal Tap-ish to me



the search engine will help you with the rest of your questions. as for learning Dutch, your effort will most likely be appreciated unless it's abominable, in which case you are likely to annoy the other person by not using a viable form of communication -- I wouldn't necessarily expect anyone to humour you with a free lesson if you could both more easily do business in your native language. by all means try, but an appreciation of your own language is a good place to start, mate (not m8).

-paniked

lol everyone i know shortens off mate with the number 8 hence m8
i actually live in wales where the native language is welsh so i very much doubt i can convey in that !!!!
but thanks for the semi flame any way ! ( and no problem for correcting you )
anyone have anything constructive to add (was just curious about sexfarms ) but tipplezones i would like to go as im a bit partial to bbbj

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thanks i already have tons of information thanks to this site but i also know how fast things move and places get closed etc
it was thru ignatzmice board i heard about sexfarms in the 1st place kinda intrigued me as for speaking dutch i can get thru most situations with the 20 or so sentences i know so im not too worried about that its the up to date tipplezone locations in holland im looking for
whilst im in groningen tho i may look out for a sex farm as that was wehere i heard it was ( im more than likely wrong tho )
thanks as well will check goldentime now

Smokley...you got that right. I grew up listening to Dutch but unfortunately my parents didn't speak Dutch to us kids... Just to each other and to the other Dutch people that we were around. I've heard recently that it was very common at the time that my parents immigrated. Not happy with it...but not much I can do about it now. ..but I digress!

What I was getting at was the trouble with trying to imitate the sounds of the Dutch language. Even having heard it much of my life (and only using it occasionally) I still struggle with getting the R's and G's to move from the front of my tongue to the back. ...and I really had to practice on my gezellig just so they wouldn't snicker at me ;-)

eric

yep the site i was on had audio from dutch soap tv show it was totally confusing thats why i gave up on it for now ....
still the international language is all i need

Razzy,

you mentioned that you may be heading to Groningen in an earlier post - I think it still has a Tippelzone. Or at least it did have when I last visited the city late in 2006.

When I drove past the Tippelzone, some construction was happening there, but it looked like it was just renovation work. It's in an industrial zone a couple of miles outside the city to the East and just off the A7 motorway. The simplest way to find it is to look up the location of the Bastion Groningen Hotel (www.bastion.nl) just off the A7, drive to the hotel entrance, then imagine your're exiting the hotel car park and turning left, follow the road in this direction for about half a mile and the Tippelzone will be on your left hidden by tall hedges. You will see some lamp-posts behind the hedges and might also be able to see the tops of some structures that look like bus shelters.

thanx m8 i like bastion hotels
my first ever visit to amsterdam i statyed in the bastion hotel
and ive never experienced anything like it on the morning after arriving we were woken up by the telephone and a lady asking if she could suck my dick saying she was on the 3rd floor i was shocked as nothing like that has ever happened to me in the u.k plus the fact i like to get down with a viagra in my system which takes an hour and pure embarassment remember this was my first morning of ever visiting amsterdam had`nt even had pleasure of witnessing kamers at that point so i handed the phone to my mate who proceeded to go up there but he said the cleaners were up on the floor sniggering so he came back ( i reckon he was as a chicken as me and made it up )
and she wrang back again asking where he/we were and b4 anyone says she was working my mate asked how it works does he pay her etc and she said no she is a single business woman who travels to hotels for weekends for fun ?!?!
anyway thanx will do im looking for some bbbj this visit as all over times have not been fruitfull and damm whats the point in having yr dick sucked if theres a condom on thats the whole thing for me is to feel some suction on my helmet lol
anytime i go to prague i dont need to stoop to tipplezones i go to
http://oral.topescortagency.com/escort/ and book first which proves theres a market for this shit

I suspect you won't get lucky at the Bastion Groningen, Razzy. It's usually full of burly van drivers and reps, due to it's industrial location. That's fairly typical of many of the Bastion hotels outside of city centres incidentally. This one also gets very busy during the week for the same reason, so it's worth booking at least a couple of days in advance if you want to stay there.

If you want to keep your plans fluid and not book hotels too far in advance of arrival, there is also a Van der Valk motel a few miles further east on the A7, it's bigger than the Bastion and less likely to be full, (and I think that the restaurants in Valk hotels are much better than Bastion). I go up to Groningen and Drenthe three or four times a year, I normally don't make advance bookings for hotel rooms, and I've never been unable to find somewhere to sleep - thanks to the magic of Sat-Nav. By the way, as you're interested in sex farms then I'd say that Sat-Nav is very desirable, they're usually in out-of-the-way locations. There's a few to the east and south of Groningen.

As you'll be driving, try to plan your route so that you cross the Afsluitdijk, it's not often you get a chance to tell folks that you've driven across a 26km long dam. Crossing the Afsluitdijk will also take you very close to Leeuwarden (which has to be a bonus!). You could easily drive from Amsterdam to Groningen via Alkmaar, Afsluitdijk, and Leeuwarden in the time you've got.

thank you schlep you have been by far the most helpful person on here !

i knew the sex farms existed dude can you tell me have you visited one and if so whats the deal ?

raz

It's been many years since I visited a sex-farm Razzy. (I've reached an age where the onset of what we might call performance issues makes me feel that I can get better value for money by spending my Euro's on a decent meal, instead of retail sex.)

They are not farms of course. Typically they are a large property, usually set well away from residential areas, on the edge of a town or village. They're usually completely surrounded by tall hedges or trees with discreet off-street parking inside the hedges. This can make it difficult to spot them from the road, especially as there will often be no name signs. After you've seen a few of them, you'll start to recognise the type of property. They're really tough to locate at night if you're not familiar with the location. Some have low-level red/purple exterior lighting that you might see glowing though the trees, but you can't rely on this.

Inside they're pretty much like a sex-club in Amsterdam or Prague. At minimum, there will be a little bar, where you will be introduced to the ladies, you will make your choice, and she will take you to a private room to transact your business. The rest depends on the ambitions of the proprietor, who may have installed a sauna, jacuzzi, swimming pool, etc.

The only place I've visited up in the north was a place called the Casa Grande, just outside a village called Gieterveen, about 15 minutes drive to the East of Assen and 20 to 30 minutes South-East of Groningen. That was about 10 years ago, so I can't say if it is any good now, but it is still there, I've seen the lights at night when driving past on the N33. (It's literally a couple of minutes from the Gieterveen exit on the N33.) They had a major fire there a few years ago, so it is probably very different now, but definitely still operating.

The more I think about it, the more I think you'll need a Sat-Nav if you decide to head into this sort territory at night. It's far too easy to get lost in the little villages where street lighting and signage may be minimal. You should also bear in mind that you'll be fairly close to the German border. If you get lost, you can easily end up on the German side of the border, so make sure you are not carrying any illicit substances in case the German police are stopping and checking cars for this as they cross the border. (Germans driving while under the influence is a significant cause of traffic accidents in border areas. If you are caught, they will not be lenient.)

On a related subject, it would be worth checking what insurance cover your rental car will have if you cross the border. If you're involved in an accident, it would be a nasty shock to find out that it's been down-graded to third-party cover outside of the Netherlands. Finally, I don't want to leave you with the impression that the Bastion and Van der Valk are your only hotel choices in Groningen, there are lots of hotels in the city centre and more in surrounding towns and villages.

Honestly there were cleaners on that floor and i was terrbly paranoid due to the fact we were smoking that stinky horrible orange sativa. (Tony Montana)" I only have 2 things in this world" you feel me..

Ive checked this for you, and i end up looping on dexterhorn but will keep searching for you..., Incidentally, i think our friend Razz has bee watching one too many Stefano movies.

In Groningen try the 'de woeste hoeve' And a sat-nav will help find it, even though it is viewable from the A7.

http://www.woestehoeve.com/

It's a shame that Welsh doesn't come with capital letters and punctuation. It must be very difficult to read.