So, looks like it isn't final yet but odds are I will be spending the weekend in Frankfurt rather than my initially intended jaunt through the London scene..

Based on some cursory research I think I'll be hitting up Palace and Mainhattan, strolling through Romerberg and then hopping a late flight back to Canada on Sunday. Tips, comments, etc appreciated - will throw together a trip report when I'm back!

Oase is probably the best of the local FKKs...a bit of travel but not too difficult to take a train plus cub to shuttle from there. Also Dietzenbach for bargain prices and bbfs no extra charge option...40 entry +
30 per girl per 20 minutes or so. Girls are not stunners, but most quite do-able mid to late 20's.

Thanks for the heads up.. If Oase is really worth the trip then I'll have to consider it then for Saturday as I have the full day. I'm more of a quality guy, so the lower price point is not really something that is appealing..

My only experience this far has been the trip to Yin Yang I did in the Netherlands ~2 months ago so curious about this experience. Doesn't look like there is much of an escort scene outside the FKKs and the RLD in FRA?

So I spent last night first strolling around the Frankurt RLD..

Oh man is it shady. People doing heroine right on the side streets, tons of casino halls and super aggressive folks trying to pull you into clubs/bars just like Pigale in Paris. Didn't even bother to go into any of the buildings to see the girls, area just turned me off that much!

Since I was out I decided to swing by Mainhattan, 20 team car ride away, don't know why but Google Maps utterly fails to factor in Frankfurt's subway and team system. The place was nice enough, smaller than Inwouldve thought and less nice than Yin Yang which was my only prior experience. Makes sense as its in the city vs. in the countryside. Met a girl whom I had a nice session, petite Romanian who called herself "EZ" she was very sweet and talkative, no pressure to go to the room but was a bit business like about discussing services. Very good session overall and I tipped heavy in case I come back.. One thing I noticed about the higher volume girls vs. Some of my time with other escorts.. The girls have so much sex they get a bit desensitized to it. I think I'm batting a 20-30% female orgasm rate and it skews much lower on the higher volume end.

Thinking about going to Palace today, spent much of the day strolling around the city and checking out the Christmas markets and drinking mulled wine!

"The girls have so much sex they get a bit desensitized to it. I think I'm batting a 20-30% female orgasm rate..."

Well, you've got it half right...

^ Maybe that didn't come off right.. I do feel like that is a shit "batting average" and is only for window/FKK-girls (~10, so not a scientific sample), it skews much higher for non. As hot as a girl is, even an absolute perfect 10 stunner, it's just not as fun if she isn't gasping and quivering and trembling uncontrollably, and mean I'm not counting all the times the girls are faking it, they're great performance artists, but be with enough girls that only see max 1/2 guys a day and you notice a huge difference. I mean, us men aren't machines and neither are the ladies, enough rubbing and anyone will chafe..

I did go to Palace yesterday and my first session was great, the girl had just arrived and I was her first client, hour and a half long, sweaty, multiple positions, multiple orgasms, tons of playful banter and coy remarks and a bunch of overtime chitchat, massaging and just lying in bliss. #2-3, later in the day, were much less good, beautiful girls, last one was an incredible stunner, maybe one of the most beautiful I've ever been with outside of $500+ an hour girls.. She was very popular and busy! I always opt for 1hr+ sessions to take it nice and slow with lots of teasing too but there was some clear fatigue going on there.

Anyways, girls at Palace were stunners for the most part, I heard they've been actively saying no to some Romanian girls that have been trying to go unless they pay extra cause they have too many, still lots of Eastern Europe with some others mixed in, a couple of Russian, German & Spanish. It was pretty damn slow for a Saturday, both during the day and the evening so the girls were very aggressive. General theme with the girls having gotten some of them to speak honestly is €50 for the half hour isn't cutting it considering how much they have to pay to get in.. More and more are offering extremely short S&F sessions at that price (if they even accept those short sessions at all) and out the door when you pop. Active upselling of all kinds admitted by both the men and women I spoke with and did experience it a bit myself despite booking longer sessions.

Oh, and I read this elsewhere, but I'm confirming the food is absolute garbage. The girls were complaining too. They did say there were plans to "fix it soon"

"be with enough girls that only see max 1/2 guys a day..."

Given the daily cost of renting a window, a girl that sees that few guys is *losing* money.

I.e. If they've stayed in business, they are seeing more guys than that.

"Given the daily cost of renting a window, a girl that sees that few guys is *losing* money."

I think he was talking about non-window/fkk girls.
Anyway, I know/have known window girls who may go to work (occasionaly) for 1-2 guys and make *more* money than the average window girl.
Hint: there is another factor involved in income besides nr. of customers.

Correct. Coming from Toronto where we don't have windows or FKKs, it's all incall or outcall. That said, she may have lied, but the first girl I saw told me that admission into Palace for girls was ~€115 and she does not do €50 sessions and only works like 2-3 times a week. I haven't been but she said she worked in Switzerland for a while at a "club" where the girls were all in lingerie and it was >€200 per hour, but they only had max 90 day work visas

Hello Exno,

I wonder if you were with a stunner from Russia/Hungary with a hardware in her tongue. Her hands are magical and she starts at 4 pm.

There are more beautiful girls at Palace as compared to FKK World or Sharks. But there are average girls who drag down the average.

Yes, the girls have to pay the full entry price at 75 euros plus the daily tax. You can tell them they need to earn 100 euros to break even. There are girls with zero upsell (Sarah and Saskia from Germany) or minimal upsell (Anna Marie, Julie, Julia, Veronika who may casually suggest extras if you are interested). There are benefits of being a familiar face to the girls. :)

FKK Sharks has the best food at the moment - lots of fresh fruits for breakfast and the rest of the day, along with multiple choices for dinner. But I love Palace for the finest honey bunny burgers served inside the zimmers!

Regards,
Fred

^ I am definitely sure repeat visits get you more mileage and more bang for the buck, pardon my pun. It also breeds familiarity, comfort and for the lady, recurring revenue! I can imagine there being more mutual investment in maintaining the relationship!

The food really was very bad. One of the girls I saw told me later that I could have told them I was going out to eat and was coming back and they would have let me. I should have done so, I didn't feel great afterwards, and as far as I know only the washroom by the rooms has a toilet?

The stunner I saw was named "Stella" and told me she was German (who knows?). She did say she grew up close to Hamburg, I believe, but she was gorgeous. A bit of an ice queen look to her though. Small tattoo on one arm that said "Family" on it. She had come up to me early on, having been brought over by a much less attractive friend, and tried to convince me to do a duo quite aggressively. I saw her throughout the day into the evening despite arriving at around 3. I turned her down twice before finding her on my own initiative later on in the night as she was on my mind, even then she offered to look up her friend as well, which I turned down, not sure what arrangement she had going on there. She was much warmer in the room though and was quite aware and admitted that girls that worked there, despite almost any other pretension, were likely quite materialistic.

Hello Exno,

Right on. For almost 3 years, I would go to Palace for one girl and the rest are like furniture and fixtures to me.

Well, the food may be getting even worse compared to my last visits in November. There was one morning when they served the left overs from the night before as breakfast. It looked dry and disgusting. Luckily, I had a good breakfast at the Marriott. I would leave the club mid-afternoon, go back to the executive lounge at the Marriott for food and drinks, before going back to Palace around 8 pm. I skip the dinner at Palace. You need to have your ID so that they can write your name and ID# on a small piece of paper for re-entry purposes.

There are two toilets in the bathroom by the front bar. The one near the steam room has one toilet.

Stella from Hamburg! Yes, I have been with her multiple times but not recently. I have moved onto the other two gorgeous girls from Hamburg - Jenny and Kylie. I had a trio with them and it was super hot.

OK, the arrangement is that the attractive girl would help out an older, less attractive girl. Or the senior citizen would take advantage of the young and pretty girl. For the longest time, Sarah from Germany would not go with me as I simply rejected the demand from her older CZ friend (who is practically German). She said Sarah would only go with me as a package deal...

I don't know if Kylie, Jenny or Kira (Berlin) has told her something. One evening when both Kylie and Jenny were busy, Sarah talked to me from a distance, "something different?" with a big smile. I was still stunned as she walked towards me. "Am I dreaming? Let's go." In the room, there was no upsell whatsoever. She just performed superbly until the happy ending. Then we had some small talks.

Regards,
Fred

So having gone back to Palace (Hi, Fred!) and having checked out Sharks..

The food at Sharks was definitely much better but the open air smoking is a bit odd. Probably even nicer in the summer. The talent at Palace is a bit better too though I'd say the girls at Sharks were friendlier without being aggressive. Still not 100% sold on the FKK experience.. Prefer longer and more quality time GFE dates vs. Shorter romps but that's me.. The nice thing is the on site saunas and massage offerings, as close to a day spa, with of course the ladies..

My experience about girls starting their shifts has turned out to be true though! I batted 100% on the female "O" this time around and the girls were just generally more energetic and lively at the beginning of their shifts.

I'm curious about Oase and World now though and Goldentime in Venlo when better weather hits!

Hello Exno!

Once Sharks finish the construction around the new wing, the smoking situation should improve.

Ha Ha!! No wonder you were roaring to go soon after Palace opened at 11 am.

Oase has 2 super nice rooms with mirrors everywhere. It's like Room F at Palace multiply by 10! I cannot tell you the lineup there these days.

World would be plenty of fun in late April and after - BBQ near the pool area + volleyball + outdoor sex. Perhaps some of the x-World talents at FKK Sharks would return there. A milf named Catherine at Palace was at World before...

GT is near Venlo, NL. You can take the train to Kaldenkirchen, DE and take a taxi from there.

It sounds like you are ready for the Challenger Tour - from NRW area through Giessen (FKKW) to Frankfurt to Darmstadt! :) I would love to do it all over again in the upcoming Euro 2016 tournament and/or the Sexolympics in August.

Regards,
Fred who is looking to buy an oxygen tank :)

P.S. You should add Jenny and Kylie to the mix next time (if Stella is OK with that)! Ha Ha!! Imagine having these 3 gorgeous beauties from Hamburg in a room all to yourself. Actually, it's beyond imagining. :)

Hello Exno!

When are you coming back?

Palace seems to be implementing changes that are negative - they have removed the second shift for the girls. Unless they start at 11 am, they have to work till closing time of 4 am or 5 am.

For girls who used to start at 1 pm or 2 pm, they are screwed.

The chicken wings last Friday were good. That Indian/Middle Eastern 'chef' might have been released of his duties :) That new young smiley chef is definitely more friendly.

Oh all three beauties from Hamburg looked good last Friday and Saturday. Your lady may not let you do it. BUT Aida was on fire. I was just teasing her about her drop in performance back in March, "Oh, you were still in vacation mode as if you left something in Paris...... :)" Her actions made me eat my words in all four occasions. OK, she sat on my face more than once too.....

Regards,
Fred

Hey there Fred!

Glad you're having a blast .. If only I had the time these days.

I've been incredibly busy with work locally and haven't been back to Europe since my foray last January. I'll be back in Amsterdam for work mid-May but not sure if I'll have the time to swing by Frankfurt or if I'll just visit Yin Yang in Roermond again as it's a short 2 day business trip.

Sounds like you've met some lovely ladies Did you ever go on a cross country FKK tour? Man, to have the time (and retirement income) to go on that would be sweet!

Cheers,
Exno

Hello Exno,

Or you can direct the lovely ladies to come for you from the NRW areas... There are 4 new rooms at Sharks with functional showers, just big enough for four. Soapy actions at its best!

Well, I have been to Hamburg twice for the same new angel Anna-Maria. She was just two weeks old in the new business when I first met her back in March, just days before my trip to Asia. Not only that she's all natural and drop dead gorgeous with mixed heritage from Spain and Russia, she just has those intangibles that I cannot find in any club girls at the moment.

Look for something in your mail box which may melt it. Give me a few hours, OK!

Regards from gorgeous Buffalo,
Fred

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Very confused, Fred? Are you suggesting incall girls in NRW?? Problem is getting here and/or finding a reason. I'm going to be back in Amsterdam for business ins mid May it looks like, so deciding how much time I want to spend travelling is a big question. Long commutes suck!

As for the mail.. I don't know if there was supposed to be a picture attached but all I received was a few words of text and the name "Anna-Maria" ???

So, looks like I might be in Frankfurt for the day on the 18th of May and then off to the 'Dam until the 21st. Curious about where I should spend my time these days.. Palace, Sharks or even maybe Oase or World considering the weather has warmed up.. Being outside in the nice weather would be nice!

Hi Exno,

First off, sorry. I was in a hurry to get back to the field.

Well, you may do what I did yesterday - Sharks afternoon/early evening + Palace for the rest of the day. Your babe seemed to be done by 2 am but she had to stay till closing. There is a cute Romanian (with some Moldova in her ancestry) who could steer you from your babe at Palace.

Palace really fuck things up when they remove the second shift! Who would come in day time when it's so gorgeous outside. Yet, I hate to deal with the drunks who roll in after 1 am. Food is a bit better.

Oh, I initiated an X-World babe at Palace. We broke the ice as we shared a mutual friend. When she pulled up her Face Book page to confirm the identity, I was soo moved and motivated! :)

Another gorgeous day and serious workout ahead.....

Should I warn your girl? :) She gained some weight but her tan lines look very sexy. She did not even give me that "you are not worthy" eye contact any more? :) She blew off a potential customer at the front bar, "I'll talk to my friend." as she got off the bar stool and walked away with Shuntel.

A stupid convention starts today and I may skip Palace. Maybe not as I had tooooo much fun with this x-World sweetheart (who had been away from Germany for two years!)

Regards,
Fred