Long story short, I'm an asian moving to the Netherlands.

A few years ago, a woman I really loved left me and emotionally abused me. She is now married to some beta MBA type after fucking 10s of alpha males.

They suggest that the best way to get over a broken heart is to have flings. I had only one fling with an inexperienced woman who turned me off. In the other short term relationship, the woman wouldn't even take her clothes off for me.

I also went into a 5 year long clinical depression. Needless to say, women don't like depressed, insecure men. As a fallout of the depression, I have also gained a lot of weight. I am not physically attractive.

I once visited an escort in Canada, paid her 200 dollars. She was good at her job, but she didn't create any chemistry at all. She turned me off by saying things like 'I don't do the kissing thing', no cuddling, and 'I'm not getting undressed again', after I came. I even got her chocolates.

I want a GFE in Amsterdam. I want to be turned on, feel loved, desired, wanted and wild sex, all in one.

What do you folks suggest? Not too loaded with cash, so was thinking of starting off with a 30 minute session at a private house. Heard bad things about Asmara. Park 118 and Vienna seem on the radar.

Going forward, would like to try sex on shrooms and acid, MILFs, BDSM etc. I don't have the time or energy to learn the 'game' and seduce women.

Thanks.

Oh, I have heard that Angel Blue Jeans is pretty awesome, any idea on her whereabouts?

I am likely to be a repeat customer, if I find the right girl.

As far as I know, ABJ is long retired. She was before my time, but I heard good things.

Normally, for GFE, I'd recommend Dita, but A. she's rather expensive, and B. she doesn't take Asian clients, so that's gonna be a no-go for you.

I would recommend you read some reviews, make a list of girls that interest you and visit them all. Pick a few that you had a good time with and just start seeing them regularly. A lot of girls have services they don't normally offer on the table for regulars who they "click" with. It's a matter of building up a rapport and a relationship with a couple girls.

Finding what you really want in your case may be difficult, but not impossible, in Amsterdam.

You should read up on the FFK scene in Germany. DFK and BBBJ are abundant, as are large clients so no need to feel self-conscious. The atmosphere is more relaxing in that it's a sort of sauna club environment where you can lounge for hours. And the women parade around essentially nude the whole time. And price-wise it's less expensive.

Thanks for the replies, folks.

I'm looking for some intimacy. I gather that GFE is some sort of a loosely defined term, I'm ok with a CBJ, but DFK is a MUST.

What I absolutely DO NOT want is kissing the girl on the lips only to be told 'I don't do this', or her avoiding cuddling.

Do the private houses offer any semblance of intimacy?

DFK is not offered as standard in the private houses, but some girls offer it as an extra.

In general you would expect massage, CBJ and sex. With the right girl the atmosphere can be fairly intimate, but some girls prefer to keep more of an emotional distance from the clients and may seem a bit "cold" or "mechanical" in comparison.

A good way to research this is to put "kissing park 118" or "kissing asmara" in the 'quick search' box. Asmara is not a bad place (I've visited some very beautiful and very nice girls there, although quality is variable) but I have a hunch that Park 118 might be better for this, just based on some of the comments from other peoples' reports.

If you're not loaded with cash then be aware that Vienna Massage may turn out to be quite expensive - see this thread where someone was quoted €220 for an hour.



Maybe a little bit unrealistic - but some of these girls are really nice and if you treat them with respect they can be very warm, talkative, genuinely glad to see you again, enthusiastic in bed...and make you feel happy. Maybe not love and desire....but hopefully warmth, kindness and a genuine desire to please. It's a question of finding the right girls......

DFK is not really a thing in De Wallen, but it is possible IF the girl knows and likes you enough. As I said, best thing to do is find a few girls in De Wallen that you like and build a relationship with them. It's possible you might be able to work out a GFE sort of relationship with a few of the girls as a regular.

If you want to feel 'loved, wanted, desired and wild sex' as you say, then to be honest the Amsterdam RLD is not the best place to look- Thailand, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, etc.- a destination where the working girls are often looking for more than a quick fuck would be better suited to your needs.

De Wallen is pretty much the opposite concept to what you say you want. The idea is quick, easily affordable sex, and volume of customers- it's not based on stellar service and repeat business so much.

A popular girl can see 10-12 customers a day so girls generally don't want to get to close to their customers as it can make their job very difficult. Some girls often struggle to get 4-5 customers a day, but even so it's not a GFE experience generally.

DFK is very very rare. Going back 10 years, you can probably count on one hand the girls who offered this service openly and readily and even then, I am sure it was not to absolutely every customer.

I have had the sort of wild, crazy no holds bared everything goes GFE which you describe with maybe 3 girls (one no longer working the other two well known), but this over a period of probably 8-9 years, and 2 out of the 3 girls I was/am a regular visitor of and have known them for a long time.

You (probably) won't find a virtual girlfriend, but again, much closer by you can find GFE sex at a price lower than the less-than-GFE sex of Amsterdam.

Rent a car and in about 2 hours you can drive to the NRW region of Germany where such opportunities abound. Since visiting an FKK can last all day (if you want it to), or visiting two in one day is easy, the drive time really isn't so bad.

Very true, the FKK scene offers a lot which you can't find, or at least very rarely find in Amsterdam, such as DKF, BBBJ, and a generally higher service level. I don't have any first hand experience but hope to one day.

If you want a GFE in Amsterdam it's maybe worth looking into escorts?

Dita was already recommended (brilliant reviews), I am sure there are others. Independent escorts generally see far fewer customers as most tourists don't normally use them, so they are a lot more open minded in the services they provide.

would you recoomend dita ? is this her profile ditavip com ?

i am looking at going to amsterdamn for my first visit just for 4 or 5 days will that be enough time ? just want to mostly have a fun relaxing time stay in a hotel near red light district and enjoy some good sex with some good looking woman would you recommend any other good woman do any do threesomes in the red light districts? i am mostly looking for a gfe experience and bj to any info would be apreciated
i am White British

thanks

ditavip.com is her, yes.

She's fantastic. I've seen her 6 times already, and I've had her booked for my next trip in October since April. She's a staple in all of my Amsterdam trips. She's not cheap, but she's very, very worth it.

If I had to only see one girl on one of my trips, Dita would be my pick.

does she offer kissing and cuddling and taking a shower together does she want dinner if the date is up to 8 hours ? i have sent her a polite email yesterday how long does she normally take to reply should i have emailed her via the email address she posted on the site ? as i contacted her via the contact form how is her English ? on the site it only lets you send a short email so will ask her when she replies she looks like a beautiful lady i am looking for 8 hours or 5 hours on 1 day and maybe another 5 hours before i leave is she always in Amsterdam? was looking at going September or October does she offer to dress up in outfits and lingerie?
not a bad price 1550 for 8 hours is that in euros?
thank you

Thanks for the replies, folks.

I'm both emotionally and sexually frustrated as of now, and no amount of flings or one night stands seem to help. Thailand and other such places is out of the picture - I can't afford to travel that much.

I guess I'll visit a private house to start with, get a girl some chocolates and flowers and see how she responds. I have heard that the girls don't accept such small gifts?

I'm a student, so high budget stuff is out of the picture. I will most definitely visit the German FKK scene once I'm settled in NL.

Thank you so much for your suggestions, folks. Please pray that my emotional scars get healed...

Yes, Dita does offer kissing and cuddling and showering together. She will definitely dress up in lingerie for you, if you have any requests, ask her. Not sure about the dinner, I assume it would depend when the appointment is. I imagine that unless you were doing an overnight thing starting after dinner hours that yes, you would have to get her something to eat at some point. Her prices on her site are listed in Euros, yes.

She can sometimes take a few days to get back to you depending on her schedule. She travels a lot, often with customers. She'll get back to you sooner or later, I've never had a problem communicating with her, she's very reliable. She is based out of Amsterdam, she lives there and I believe she is actually a Dutch citizen now.

Her English is fluent.

I'd recommend going in September, because I'll be there in October and I'll probably be taking up a lot of her time, haha.

i know what you're going through, man. I'm in a similar position to an extent. I'm coming off a failed relationship a few years back that was very sexually unfulfilling and ended quite badly. I've always been a pretty big guy, and the depression from the aftermath of my relationship certainly didn't help the situation.

The only advice I can really give is to just enjoy what you have. There are perks to being single, even if it doesn't seem like it sometimes. Seeing sex workers is never going to be a substitute for a real relationship, but it doesn't have to be. Enjoy it for what it is, focus on yourself for a while, do the things that make you happy, and when you're ready, you can start looking for that new special someone.

It's tough, I know. I'm still not sure what I want out of life or how to really be happy, I'm kinda of throwing shit at the wall at seeing what sticks right now. It's not an easy road, bouncing back from a bad breakup. It can destroy a lot of people. For now, just be good to yourself and try not to worry about the future too much.

I wish you the best.

I don't want to be "that guy" by saying this, but any working woman worth her salt will spot an emotional case a mile off and will act accordingly. Just compare it with most men being able to spot a "bunny-boiler" at 20 paces. It is NOT an attractive quality I'm afraid. Any over-the-top attempts at seeking affection from the OP would be met with a cold, detached response. The women are in it for the money, not for any nonsense that comes with it. I'm quite sure even the non-pimped ladies have to put up with a lot of emotional bullshit from their partners, so why accept it in their jobs when they don't have to?

To the OP I say this; I'm a little emotionally fucked up myself, but have great empathy. I don't want to bring my troubles onto other people because I know they wouldn't want it, so I don't "go there" by letting them hear my issues or see how insecure I am. I love to be hugged and cuddled, so I settle for that :) Agnieszka is good for hugs, whilst Elodie (surprisingly) is good for cuddles, for me anyway!

If I brought my troubles into their environment then I wouldn't feel welcome, which would make things emotionally worse for me. So I stick to the sex (with hugs, cuddles and a few kinks as a bonus) and strongly advise you to do the same. Otherwise you'll get very hurt.


p.s. just rocking up with flowers and chocolates and expecting a positive response is unrealistic. Try it first on a lady in a bar, club or other setting where people look to hook up. You won't get many takers ;)

Best advice so far!

Very true.

No woman, sex workers included, wants to be with a guy who just dumps all his shit on her as soon as they meet. Everyone has problems, it's ok to talk about things a bit once you know each other a little and are friendly, but to just come in right off the bat with the chocolates and flowers I agree is a bit much. You're gonna wind up as one of "those guys" the girls talk about with each other. Watch that documentary that was posted in the other thread a couple days back to see what I mean.

Don't do this to be loved. Do it for physical affection (not emotional affection) and so you can get back on your feet and start loving yourself again.

Yeah, as Buddha said, it is better to be alone than to be with the wrong person. He also said that only a person who is capable of being alone is capable of loving. Looking back, I would have never wanted to be with that woman for life. But the cruel ways of my reptilian brain bring back memories of her everytime I get intimate with any woman.

They say the grass is greener on the other side. I ask, is the grass green anywhere? haha, I guess enough nihilism for one day.

With regard to not knowing what you want from life, I have some unsolicited advice for you. Read some of Osho, Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj's teachings. Try some meditation, breathing exercises. Try out eiriu-eolas dot org