Just curious here but everytime i'm in Dam i see the same faces with their trademark whispers and list of hard drugs. Now ... they must be doing alright or else they wouldn't be there time and time again. So do they actually make a living out of selling drugs on the streets of the RLD or do they just mug people?! I can't imagine why anyone would want to buy off them, i've heard stories of people being sold rat poison and all sorts of things before. Most of them i would take a guess are scammers but i s'pose you do get a few that are actually selling the real McCoy to make a living??

I don't understand why there isn't a heavier police presence in the RLD to get them off the streets?? It wouldn't exactly be difficult would it. I have had aggro out there before when i've been offered drugs and when turned down a knife has appeared and i've had to hand cash over. Gonna have to be really careful over there this time, especially with recent events such as the 2 Middlesborough lads. We should be ok as there are 6 of us, but once pissed and smoking people tend to wonder off which is what we don't want to happen.

Dam_04

any idea what happened with the middlesborough fans or what caused it?

sorry just read the thread about it.

Yeah was just about to say Peter Craig has done a thread on it. Pleased to hear they've got the scumbag that did it. It'll keep me on my toes out there next week!

Dam_04

Even though i posted on the other thread about a situation i was in, most of the time if you just ignore them they will not bother you.On that occasion this clown followed me for about 5 mins gettin louder an louder pullin my jacket an shit. Now he knew i was on my own i left my mate when he went into a kamer near the old sailor bar.The rest of my mates were in the smoking bull bar on Lange Neizel where i was heading, he pestered me all the way from the old sailor to the bridge just after febo when he started pulling an grabbing at my jacket. I lost the plot an he ended up on his arse with a sore face an i got off my mark to the smoking bull. This was about 2 years ago an apart from that never had any other bother, keep yer wits about you and ignore these clowns . If you see a crowd walk fast if they hit you with the charlee e viagra pish just say no thanks loudly and keep walking.

Had this bloke follow me and my mate on a quiet street last month. It was the other side of Nieuwmarkt from the RLD so we were surprised to be hassled in this area (around Kloveniersburgwal I think). It was about 3 am on a Sun morning. He wasn't selling drugs, but kept asking us in English if we were lost. Stupidly we said we were. And he kept insisting he'd take us to our hotel. We insisted we knew our way after looking at our map, yet he followed us most of the way.

At the end near our hotel he pestered us for change. So to get rid of him, we gave him some schrapnell (no more than 6 Euros in loose change). We both had a couple of hundred Euros in our wallets between us, and we figured it'd better to lose a few Euros to get him off our backs, than him pull out a knife or call his mates around the corner and mug us.

Giving him that change seemed to be a red rag to a bull. We were tired after a night out and just wanted him to bugger off. He was lucky to get anything off us. He said "I've just got out of prison, you know. All you give me is shitty change", cheekily expecting more money. I got angry by this point. I leant over to him and lost it. I said: "Do you fucking wanna know, cunt ?" He backed off, but it could have been a stupid move if he was a druggy as his mates could have been around the corner.. They weren't, but you can't be too careful. He swore at us in Dutch then went off. In future, I just won't chat to anyone on the streets at that time in the morning.

Druggies haven't given me many problems, but the frigging panhandlers have. Later in the day, I stroked a dog tied up outside a shop on Damrak. The owner came out of the shop and demanded I give him some money for petting his dog. I thought better of telling him to fuck right off, and just walked off shaking my head. The cheek of it. Trying to charge me for stroking his dog.

99 times in a 100 they’re just chancers looking for a gullible tourist, usually ignoring the buggers works but sometimes they get too threatening and start laying on hands, the only way is the way of my esteemed countryman above. Hit ‘em first hit ‘em hard then get aff yer mark. Forehead sharply into the bridge of the nose works every time, remember, they can’t stab you if they’re looking in the gutter for their septum.

Some one tell me how to delete a double post, please.

Boaby - no idea how to delete a double post. That headbutting must be the infamous "Glasgow kiss" I've been hearing about. When he's on the ground nursing his nose, you could finish him right off by a swift kick in the knackers. Easier said than done. Not easy to excute a headbutt when you are too stoned/pissed to stand up. Don't fancy splitting my contact lens after dishing out a headbutt, either.

A year ago i was walking along Oza just past the bulldog when one of these Morrocan mugging bastards stood in front of me with one of his mates who was massive. The lads didn't even realise i had split up from them at this point. He said to me hand your wallet over and i said fuck off i've got nothing on me, at which point he decided to grab me round the neck and push me near to the edge of the canal. He then got a knife out, frothing at the mouth like a window licker desperate for a hit of some crack and said 'Don't fuck with me' so at that point it really did shake me up abit and i handed over a 50e note. The lads turned round and saw what was happening and they both tried doing them aswell... i don't know if it was my imagination but there seemed to be more of these arseholes coming over from the bridge to have a go? I just got the feeling they were all up to the same trick. This was confirmed when one of them stood at the bridge watching shouted 'fuck you' to me. We did one sharpish and went in to a sex shop when i had a look outside they were back with another tosser who wanted more money. If that was over here on a sat night i would have no hesitation (same with the other two lads i was with) to run over and smash one of them on the chin. But in Dam you just KNOW they are tooled up and you will get done.

I'm hoping nothing like that happens this time... we should be ok with 6 of us being out there but we'll not have to split up cos that's when it happens. These scum on the streets are the only thing that spoils the place, but then again i s'pose you gotta take the rough with the smooth? Anyway....... not gonna dampen my spirits, looking forward to getting there on Thurs for a mental weekend!!

Dam_04

The thing is mate youre just over for a good time for a holiday no one wants this kind of shit or hassle. Youre over there to have fun not to roll about the street with some turk or morrocan arsehole. One day these liberty takers will no doubt run into someone else who's also tooled up an get a taste of there own medicine.

Double post ?

Never had a problem, unlike a few here i guess?
But I don't make a habit of walking down tiny dimly lit alleys after leaving bars drunk at 3 am.

I carry a throw-away wallet with 50-100 Euro cash in it, just in case I find myself in a situation where I need to hand something over. Occasionally I carry cash, 5000 euro or so, and discretely, I never flash cash, or go out walking around for the day with it. But traveling alone, never carrying a weapon, haven't thrown a punch in years... and Goddammit! I don't want to pay for bodyguards. So I had a look at my options. Many of these are quite affordable when you consider you're paying for peace-of-mind, and they are both functional and last for a number of years. Make the investment now and travel anxiety-free.

There is a niche market for diamond merchants responsible for creating a lovely metal briefcase that comes with a remote control. It is available for 700 euro at various shops in Antwerp, or over the internet delivered basically anywhere. Getting robbed? Just hand the briefcase over and when they're a safe distance from you (works up to 50 m away) hit the button on your remote control (looks like a car alarm remote) and watch 80,000 volts pulse through the shell of the briefcase and the handle. Typically they hit the ground like a sack of bricks and start convulsing. They should be flat on the ground in extreme pain for 5 minutes or so, leaving you plenty of time to await authorities who can detain them and return your briefcase. Probably once is enough but the remote-controlled briefcase is designed so you can administer repeated shocks every 15 or 20 seconds if necessary. Their hand muscles clench up around the briefcase when the electricity hits them, so they can't let go for several minutes. Perhaps that's the best time to suggest they should consider applying to a charitable institution for their handouts.

There are also jackets (350 euro) that look like cheap waterproof windbreaker jackets that have panic buttons, push the button that dangles out of the inside of the sleeve just above your palm and a the jacket puts 50,000 volts through anyone touching you. These devices are used by a number of diamond merchants traveling through Europe although you can expect customs delays so they can have a look at them and it'll have to go back in checked baggage, not carry-on. And yes, those devices are legal throughout Europe and N & S America.

It's possible it could send them into cardiac arrest ... you will remain unindicted. No country has ever successfully prosecuted a private citizen for defending themselves in this manner.

goddamn double posts

curiious - those gadgets sound very James Bondish. How about pepper spray ? Is that legal in the Netherlands. Failing that, I'll do a very nasty fart after eating some very spicy Indonesian food. The mugger should run for his life.

As for the 3am thing, yep, it's a fair cop, I was out then. But Kloveniersburgwal is a nice, quite, safe street. It's anything but a dimly lit alley in a bad part of town. OZAB near the Bulldog is a pretty busy place and not dimly lit as far as I can remember.

I think Dam_04 has a really good question here, for which I have no answer!

"I don't understand why there isn't a heavier police presence in the RLD to get them off the streets?? It wouldn't exactly be difficult would it."

Anyone know why there isn't even a meager police effort made to remove this from the RLD?

Isn't there CCTV around the RLD ?

shit hot http://www.stun-gun-reviews.com/stun-gun-jacket.html

The bridge tolls are without doubt a complete fucking nightare, probably the biggest problem you will face in Amsterdam in fact.

It takes a bit of self discipline but the best thing to do when you hear " Coca...Exstacy...Viagra", is to make like they never said it. COMPLETELY ignore them, DO NOT make eye contact under any circumstances. DO NOT even falter in you're stride no matter what the message you hear or the sob story because the second you do either of these things, you're fucked. They will follow you, harass you, shout and scream at you because they know there's a chance that if you spoke to them then you'll give them cash. If you completely ignore them, don't let on you even heard them then I guarantee you they will move on to try and find an easier victim.

I learnt the hard way in my early trips, using this tecnique I never get a problem. It also works with all the guys trying to lure you into the sex shows.

If that fails and it honestly hasn't yet for me, then I suppose the headbutt/ run like fuck combo would be the next choice.

Hope it helps

Dave

>Just hand the briefcase over and when they're a safe distance from you
> hit the button on your remote control and watch 80,000 volts pulse
> through the shell of the briefcase and the handle.


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