Hey there --

First post to the board. My girlfriend and I are in Amsterdam now through the long Christmas weekend and were interested in checking out one or more of the swinger clubs here. We've never been to any in Amsterdam. We're staying close to Sameplace and interested in checking out Paradise. Is there the gangbang scene tonight (thursday) and what time is a good time to arrive for that? I wonder if things will be dead because of the holiday weekend. Is sameplace ok? Any thoughts or suggestions would be great.

Also, any recommendations for a live sex show? we checked out the casa rosso and that was pretty good. we were hoping to find something a bit more hardcore.

Thanks for any ideas.

Jack (and Liz)