I thought that was George Bernard Shaw....

Regardless, it sure wasn't Charlie Sheen who made that up

I find this an interesting thread. On my recent trip last month, I had planned and planned for my first Hooker exp. I had it narrowed down to an escort and had one picked out.

In the meantime I had made a date with a Dutch girl who I had been emailing for some time, so I kind of got more into this girl, especially she did some things on the date that got me thinking that she might be interested in sex. Like rubbing the area above her breasts several times. Of course I don't know what that means but I thought, maybe, its' a signal.

All this thinking, We made a second date, so I guess I chose to have this girl rather than go and pay for it, Well she cancelled the date and that was the end of that by then, I had lost my nerve to go to a hooker.

So now I feel cheated like I really wanted to have this pleasure that so many of you report about.

I can only hope that the next time hopefully in March, I will have the courage of my convictions.

I find most of the people who ask: "Why a prostitute?" just don't have the guts to go and try one out. If they did, they would not ask such inane questions? SW can be the best lovers--not just in a sexual sense. Many truely appreciate the attention of a man and certainly don't take him for granted. Although sometime they may view him as an ATM machine, they know there is a 100E limit and the machine can turn itself off at any time. There is no whining or the entitlement attitude. Very rarely do you find a wife who doesn't keep asking for more or feels like she does not get enough attention. The latest article I read is about the "push" gift. Women now expect a gift after delivering a child. What will they think up next?

The famous Willie Sutton was once asked "why do you rob banks?" His response? "Because that's where the money is!"

I read a study where some guy did an estimate as to how much you would spend in a life time fucking prostitutes on a weekly bases versus a wife and kids, and you end up spending the same amount of money.

So you can have sex with many different women over a lifetime or you can sleep with the same woman (who will occassionally put out) and pay for family maintenance and school fees until the little ankle biters are out of college.

I have never married, and my brother who has been married over twenty years says I made the better decision.

Something to think about.

...so those who do both end up really paying for it all!

What was it Woody Allen said in one film, along the lines of I just need to keep eating chicken.....

It's from Annie Hall. "A woman goes to a psychiatrist and says "My husband thinks he's a chicken." The psychiatrist says "Why don't you turn him in?" She says "Because we need the eggs."

It means that ultimately the reason we make the romantic choices we do, however crazy they may seem, is because we need the eggs.

Usually I don't like to disclose my personal life, I only post trip reports and give information about the ladies, but it's an interesting issue, so I'd like to give my contribution.

I've had very few girlfriends in my life and I must admit : I've never been highly skilled to chat up a nice lady and take her to bed (don't blame me guys). Not that I'm specially ugly or fat, I'm not a bad person, I'm just a normal guy, I even heard many girls telling me that I am handsome. You can not judge guys by their ability to seduce women and get laid. For instance, many serial killers receive love letters in jail, Hitler had a young sexy Bavarian blonde Eva Braun for wife, whereas he killed millions of people. Even the scum of the earth can make the sexiest ladies fall in love with them. I would even go further : you have to be a very very bad person to get success with the ladies.

I was frustrated when I was a teenager, it was painful like hell to see happy couples hand in hand, and sexy girls walking down the streets, while I was still alone. I came wondering all these questions : "why is that? why always the others, why not me?? It's unfair !!"

And then I discovered the pleasure of sex in Amsterdam 7 years ago the 15th August 2000, I found out my favourite movie star, Sarah Michelle Gellar's lookalike. It was amazing, I could get more pussies in a couple of nights than in 5 years of my regular life. Not only they are cute but also they took good care of me. Now I'm 31 years old, I made up the lost time, and I still enjoy it, it's like a revenge. Many times a year I get a sample of the dream life I haven't had.

Now back to the original question, why do I visit prostitutes? Mainly to find a girflriend's substitute. I like their body heat, I like to hear their laugh, to see their sparkling eyes, their smile, to feel their soft skin, to kiss their face and neck, to caress their hair, to hold them tight in my arms, they bring a tremendous amount of joy to me. And I will always be grateful to the Netherlands for giving me what I always dreamed of. Each time I go back to the Netherlands I feel like a Conquistador in South America : becoming a rich owner in the New World, whereas he was a gangster in his original country.

So, like most of my fellows here, I would return the question to arthur : why not if they make me a happy man?

Farid747,i,m kind of the opposite of you.I don,t have a problem discussing my personal life primarilly because i like to only be friend,s and be around people who either accepts or tolerates what i do,that reduces a lot of stress.

I don,t want to keep repeating so my answer to the question is half way back on this thread.I just want to add that seeing a prostitute eliminates a problem situation i,ve had many times in my life of guys that are more successsful talking to a girl than me getting the girl from me and then throwing it in me face ,insulting me,which led to an almost troublesome incident a few years ago.I do get the pleasure of seeing a girl that i pay turn down aggressive guys like that when we go out to a club,etc.Actually 1 girl i,ve become good friends with is not too far from you in France,in Fontainebleau until after New Years,and she trusted me with her BMW 750 till she comes back,i was even invited there for x-mas!

I,m not that much into movie stars but the ladies i see are look alike to many in clubs and parties that i only get to have small talk and pictures with.My best memory was Nina,she is almost a twin sister to a chick i was talking to at the Qlimax rave party in Arnhem just the nite before.I do manage to just socially be with a few girls,good looking in their 20,s and i,ll pay for the side i,m not able to talk them into,and to me everything is fulfilled.

I,ll be back in Amsterdam in April and will like to hook up with a girl i,ve been reading about here-Agnikeska?Anyone can give me the exact location,she sounds like a nice fun girl to be with.

great post Farid, I can relate to that.

I think this is why prostitution is still a taboo. Many men that I know (I would even estimate 50% in some cities) have visited a working girl.

Yet "ordinary" women do not like this practice, because it goes against their seat of power - their ability to choose which men they fuck and reject certain types of men who do not have the "lyrics" to win a woman. By going to a prostitute, we bypass all these complexities of "proving our worth" to a woman - and most women hate this.

Its no wonder that in this country, recently there was a short lived attempt to outlaw prostitution by prosecuting the customers - proposed by, yes you guessed it, a woman.

This is why I actually have so much respect for prostitutes compared to other women. I actually prefer them in many ways. They know the real score and, whilst some of them look down on you, a great many respect you. The kind of respect that many supposed "normal" women will not give to an ordinary man.

Oudezijds Achterburgwal 72
there are 3 windows juxtaposed, 72-I II and III, she's at 72-III the third window at right. Neither upstairs, nor downstairs, just right in front of the curb.

Enlightening posts Farid and Cocksure - I wish I have written them myself :-).

I wish only to add one thing. Window girls sell a dream. It's not only sex - they sell care and regard. Even if only for 15 or 30 minutes the window girl (hopefully) does her best to make you happy. Yes, sex is the main attraction, but not the only one. And when you do "window shopping" you are the only one who make a decision - no hassles and no troubles at all.

Giovanni Pollio

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Pure truth. And yet...



Definitely go for it! We know you can do it ;-). In my first trip I spent 6 hours and a half touring the RLD before finally entering in Christina's kamer...

Thank you Farid and others who have shared an insight. I can competely understand your motivations. To Mr Magoo and others who felt my question was too basic , well, I was curious , so asked:)

I do not agree that those that ask about prostitutes are " too afraid or chicken " to try . That is just dumb in my opinion.

I personally do not pay for a prostitutes time as for me personally, that does not work. If it works for you, for whatever reason , then that is fine. We are all different!

wow. this forum has rewarded me again with intelligent discussion of a topic that's no doubt crossed all our minds at one time or another.
My own personal reason was complex in some ways, and in others, very, very basic.
I've only visited the window girls in Amsterdam on one trip (only been twice) but did see a few while I was there. It's been a while since I've been in a physical relationship but for a few months prior to my booking my visit I was getting to know someone. Turned out she was a psycho bitch and a cock-tease. I'm not generally misogynistic, but this chick was fucked in the head somewhere along the line. I rationalised my visits to the various prostitutes working the RLD as a kind of therapy, to get over what I was all but promised and then denied. Truth be told, I was just horny as fuck and needed a shag.
I see it as kind of living, interactive porn. I really don't want to go out and hook up with a girl for a one night stand, and I'm quite picky when it comes to who I get emotionally involved with, so that, combined with my decision not to conform to society's current, unwritten rules regarding what is "hot" or not, and I'll confess, some awkwardness in social groups, I felt no shame in partaking of the legal sex on offer in Amsterdam. So I may be a desperate dude, who cannot get laid normally, but I am definitely not fat!
I like how there's no illusions. she knows you're there for sex, you know she's not going to be calling you the next day demanding dinner. Not that that'd necessarily be a bad thing with some of the girls. The fact that it's in another country probably helps a bit too. I'm not likely to bump into one of the girls I've visited while I'm out doing my Christmas shopping, or when I'm having dinner with my family. Or if, god willing, I get a girl who I can be in a relationship with, who likes me for who I am.
There really is a point in there somewhere. Comparing it to food, as much as I enjoy a good home cooked dinner, it's nice to eat out sometimes without the hassle of preparation.

Yes, this is usually my ethos too!

If you saw my wife, you'd know the answer

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