I've previously mongered in Germany (Berlin and Frankfurt) and would love to go back again one day. However, I've heard good things about being able to get weed and monger in Spain, and before the Bug froze international travel I'd been considering paying it a visit for several years. I am curious about further east however. One day I'd like to get out to some out of the way places like Transdniestria or Ukraine.

I can only talk for the UK, Belgium, NL & DE. Out of those it has to be Bochum for me. Next choice outside Germany would be Den Haag. Germany has a variety of options which appeal to me. Rlds in near enough every city, swing clubs too.

Never been/heard of that particular place; but their Wikipedia entry is very reticent about there being a fun/naughty industry there. What is it about Bochum that makes it stand out for you above all the other places in Germany with a strong porn/prostitution vibe?

I am very surprised when I hear people haven't been to Bochum. Many moons ago it would be Amsterdam. Then I found Frankfurt. Then, or along the way I found Den Haag, not sure when I found Den Haag but glad I did. Amsterdam has 3 rlds and a peep show with live sex. Frankfurt has 2 rlds and kinos. Den Haag has 2 rlds. These cities have loads of other stuff but I was content visiting the rlds. Saw them all full of women and trans. First time in Amsterdam was about 2001. Have had some fantastic rides there. Travelled all over the NL. Visited all the rlds, only missed out on Nijmegen. Maybe one day I'll go back and try to find that rld again.

Den Haag is a city I would definitely stay in for it's well stocked rlds. Used to stop in Rotterdam to be near to DH. Antwerp was a place i stopped in often also.

Now, 20 or so years later I go to Bochum. Bochum has everything in terms of adult entertainment. It has a fantastic rld. When you walk in you have what I call, 'milf alley' which always has about 10 - 15 milfs. Some Latino too. This leads in to an indoor area with stunning women from all over Europe and one or two transsexuals. The area to the left of milf alley has near enough every window full. Some African ladies, some oriental ladies, but mostly ees in their 20s and 30s. A few milfs and gilfs too.

So. There's a top notch rld but also there are other venues. There's a kino nearby but I don't bother with kinos, although I have been in and seen a lady going around entertaining the guests if required. There's also a couple of swinger places. Main reason I go now but missing rlds. Much easier set up than other countries. You just walk around, select, go in and do the deed as you all know. Rather than having to make phone calls, etc.

The swing clubs are top notch. Dortmund has a massive one nearby I definitely have to try. The Germans are open about sex and very friendly from my experiences.

Bochum also has FKKs but I have no experience of them. Have also heard there's a nude bathing place but haven't checked that out neither yet. The location the city is excellent to travel to other rlds nearby, or swinger clubs.

Sounds interesting, might be good to go and take a look at it; Amsterdam tends to be a bit obvious to non-mongers if you mention you're going there, but Bochum sounds low profile. I was intrigued by the mention of a lady working at a Kino, I have to admit that I've always fantasied about getting sucked off by a woman while watching porn in one of those. I'd also had a dream to find a blow job bar pre-Covid. Oh well, probably another costly dream I won't be able to carry through on until I'm too old to really appreciate it lol.

Lol. I'm getting on in life so I understand the ageing thing. Amsterdam was top notch 20 years ago. Prostitutes everywhere. It was unreal. I'd go there If it was as it was. So many Latinas. So many African ladies. Some Dutch ladies too. Truly amazing. Would walk around all day and never get bored. Rlds as a whole seem to have gone quieter but some are still hot spots. I believe this to be the case in Bochum. You are indeed right. When in Amsterdam I used to dread bumping in to someone I know. In contrast, Bochum is a less touristy place but nonetheless a fantastic city.

It has it's own entertainment district. Or nightlife hotspot I should say. I've never drank in any of the bars there, although I would like to. Seem to get drunk in the swing bars instead, then go baxk to HQ. Someone invited me out with him & his friends. A lovely German fella I spent the evening having a laugh with in a swing club. But I didn't go. Red light district too. Had other plans. Lovely friendly people.

Nearby to Bochum there is a massive shopping centre, loads of shops, as well as one selling the merchandise of the local football team. The u-bahn can get busy on match days. You have swings clubs. Both top notch. One is a short tram ride from the hbf. Have seen all sorts. Couples going in to gloryhole booths. Men queuing up. Looking through before they put their sausage in. Pot luck I guess. Nice looking women though! Even if they have a not so nice head, they have beautiful bodies as they look after themselves. There's private rooms. Once saw a beautiful blonde German milf approach me and two other men. Went for a quick piss. I missed out. She'd gone in the room with them. Her husband was stood outside pacing around. I missed out. She was stunning.

The place has a bar, gloryholes, cinema with seating. Settees, free buffet on a Saturday night. They all walk around naked or with sexy lingerie on. One of the best café i've ever been in. Unreal !

In all German kinos they seem to have fluffers. Or most kinos anyway. Was in a booth in Frankfurt. The cleaner was told to ask if i wanted company. She said nooooo. He said go on. Ask him. She asked me. Lol. Looking back maybe I should of but didn't bother. Usually there's two ladies on duty. They looked very similar too. In another one I've witnessed 2 or 3 gang bangs. But mostly it's man on man action, or men wanking.

The swing clubs are different. Yes, they have bi nights or events. There is one swing club. Absolutely massive. Wow. Located next to a country park on the outskirts of Bochum. Real nice place. The swing club is one massive building. Pay in. Collect your towel and locker key. Strip down and have a look around for action. There's an outdoor area with a heated Jacuzzi, private rooms, open areas for gang bangs, a free bar which is included in the entry price. Amazing place. After 1800 its fully nude. Dungeon in the cellar for anyone who likes that. One day is gay day also.

Another is small but the best so far. Lovely friendly people and 15 minutes outside town. Seen all sorts here. No private areas. This is dogging on steroids and in the warmth. Amazing. Truly amazing. Got laid 3 times there. Other chances too. Just got to time myself better. Beer, drunk, etc.

These are some reasons why I love Bochum. The swing club above in particular. Good food places too, top notch hotel, good transport links. Close to other rlds and swing clubs. Haven't got bored yet. One place I also love to visit is Hannover. It has 3 rlds. One is quiet. Slowly reducing. Next to the train station. Not a long walk from the opposite entrance of the main hbf. I only go to look at the shemales and women from the countries of South and central America. Always seem to be the best service, and have a loving and caring nature. Remarkable women. Dominicans, Brazilians, Mexicans. Love them. Also a fan of Hungarian women.

The main rld has plenty of women to choose from. Also an underground sex cinema type place. Gay action occurs too. Went for a wank. I looked down to my right. A mouth was open with a tongue waving about through a glory hole. Swerved it. It was a man. I prefer women or trans for that. Just my preference. Hannover also has a third rld. Only just found it after years of travelling around to different rlds. Luckily one haus seems to be more Latina themed, but also Europeans. The other is ees in their 20s and 30s which is full. Both are fairly well stocked. Anyone who does go to Hannover I can recommend the food shop in the main hbf. Wow.

That all sounds great, particularly the wider array of different women and the MILF presence; don't get me wrong, I love a girl in her 20s too, but MILFs seem to give better blow jobs and have a better attitude towards punters than younger escorts sometimes. My last trip to Amsterdam in end-2019 I had a final session with a 24 y.o. Dutch girl, whose body and attitude were both worse than the early 30s Moldovan woman I'd previously booked at that particular privehuis (who was at least 10 years older than her lol). I'm less interested in the swinging clubs tbh; I struggle to pull as a single guy at civvy club events just as I in real life, and if you've got to pay an escort to get laid in there, I'd rather do it without adding on the extra costs of a club. It is a shame as I do love getting women off, which is something that is hard to achieve/find in P4P, but as a single guy I lack the status to prove myself as it were (you can't get laid until you're getting laid is the vicious cycle that has plagued my sex life since my teens).

I have to pay for sex too. From all my reports you can see that has been how it is for me. Lol. Have broke the cycle before. Trying to break it again but for now I can't. Fingers crossed for a new woman though. Or trans. In the swing clubs in Germany you don't have to pay. It's not allowed. I have pulled two bonefide German milfs. Think they were Gwrman anyway. One was with her husband. The other met two young studs who fucked her all night. I wasn't performing too well for various reasons. Both were beautiful.

With swing clubs you turn up, or register and get accepted then go in and have a look around. Free bar is included in the entry price. Couples turn up. Start playing around after teasing. Then if you're lucky they let you join in. Now these German women. Wow. Absolutely beautiful. Really look after themselves. Got 3 rides. Twice on one but I performed poorly. On another I went for it. Had a second chance but got too drunk. Love swing clubs in Germany. Not all of course but it's a terrific option to have. The women in these clubs are there for the same reason. One crititiscm of some clubs is that they have too many private rooms. But this one I got laid in is perfect. Open plan. Won't be going to Germany for a while but I'll never forget pulling those two beauties. Amazing. Still chuffed to this day.

Got a working lady lined up closer to home. Haven't been yet but planning to. Fingers crossed.

Bochum rld is a real good one. Milf alley has different types of milfs. Also gilfs. Also some that aren't for me. Loads of ees in their 20s and 30s. Romania, Bulgaria & other eastern euro countries. Some oriental and African ladies too. In the indoor area you have some of the most beautiful women around. Italians, Africans, and a couple of shemales. One at least. It's located next to the city centre.

I find milfs to be much more fun. Have had a fair few offering bbbj and a few offering daty. Better service.

Hahaha, yeah, I'd like to break the cycle too for a bit. I kind of stopped bothering chasing civvy women after 2015 (ironic given that in 2016-17 I was actually able to have a civvy fling for the first time in years); but the pandemic has made me reassess that aspect of my life. I was actually thinking of finding some adult hook up sites for mature women and seeing if I could meet some single non-pros in their 30s-50s for hook ups. I'm not looking for anything serious but it would be nice to hear a woman climaxing noisily again and not be sure it was just to encourage me to get to mine lol. However, money is tight right now so it would have to be a well chosen site as I don't have $$$ or time to waste on a place full of bots.

Some people like yourself have suggested swinging clubs as a viable alternative to P4P or dating, but for me as a short, fat single guy that's just not on the cards IRL. Perhaps were I to bantz with couples online it might emerge once in a blue moon, but I'm not bi, so the idea of banging a woman with another guy present also doesn't really do much for me either. I do hope if I were to meet a woman in future that she'd be down for a bit of P4P with a working lady though. I would love to watch my wife eat out another woman while buzzing her clit with a vibrator. Well, who can say what the future holds?

Bochum sounds great from a P4P POV though, I'll definitely add it to my list of "Places to visit when time and money allow". Good luck with your MILF booking and with getting laid via swinging. Personally I don't drink or do drugs until I've gotten laid these days, as I find that while pleasant, a buzz gets in the way of my being able to enjoy the experience and sometimes stops me climaxing, which is fucking annoying. It also leaves your partner (who is usually a self-conscious stranger) feeling like they weren't enough, even though its probably a combination of age, chemicals and being a bit porky that's really the obstacle (at least in my case). The second or third time no one minds if you jerk off to cum though. Personally that's why I always love meeting an escort who allows multiple shots during a booking, the one's that get you off with their ass or pussy the first time, but then allow CIM or facials for the next round, they are the ones who get always repeat business from me.

Lol. That's one reason why I prefer to search for love. You're spot on. Swing clubs are the next best thing for me. Wgs are an option too for sure. Find a good one and it's worth it. I'll continue my search for love again but in the meantime I have needs. Wanking isn't as good as the real thing. Also don't like paying for it. Lol.

Have been part of 3somes and more somes. Just tried to blank the other men out. A full bag helps. Drink doesn't work great with me neither.

Never done cim with a p4p.

Hahahaha, yes, I'd be happy to swing too, just never had much luck in that department. A good WG has their place, but if that's all the sex you're having it is a bit like eating at McDonald's every day. Tastes good to start with but pretty soon you realise you're just filling up with empty calories lol.

Swinging in germany is a bit of a buzz for me. As is visiting a couple of places in London. Rlds are alwsys an option but your analogy is pretty spot on.

what's your opinion of Berlin?

Im aware some (all ?) of you recommend the Ruhr area like Bochum and Köln etc. I might go there some day, however my next trip is to Berlin.


Artemis? overpriced or acceptable?
any Lusthaus (brothels) worth visiting?
anything else ?

is there a RLD? (...I guess not?)



thanks in advance!

No rld as far as I'm aware but street prostitution is rife around the orangeburgerstraße area I think ? Might be wrong. Choose one you like and off to their apartment nearby.

Have never been to Berlin. Nearly but turned back and went to Hannover instead.

thanks!

well yes def gonna check out the street prostitution area however the phenomena is not for me. its a bit bittersweet at least for me. Never tried so I cant say anything negative about service, its more of the vibe that I dont like...

well,
when comparing 1hour rates for escorts it seems like Berlin in cheaper than Amsterdam. I might go for escorts or so called Laufhaus, which seems to be a brothel style of house.
germany is famous for their FKK but it doesn't seems to exist more than one in berlin? or am I wrong?
artemis is the largest, and probably not very good compared to the rest of in the country

Name of street wrong. Kurfürstenstraße is one but also Oranienburgerstraße I think. Or was. Street prostitution. Seems to be pretty big in Berlin. Hamburg has street prostitution too i think. Loads of info online. Haven't experienced it myself but the women are beautiful. It's a different scene over there. Yep. Plenty druggies too I'm sure but plenty who are just out for some cash and I think that they have apartments, or cars nearby. Online will explain it much better than me.

Yes. There are brothels too. Again. An online search will explain it better than I can. I'm interested in knowing more about it myself. FKKs are there. I'll read up on Berlin's prostitution scene.

FKKs are in other cities also. Frankfurt & Bochum. Most likely other cities also.