TLDR: a fake profile of an indie I booked on Adultwork turned out to be a hidden brothel with management issues and a high turnover. I have lost touch with most of my previous regulars and was looking for recommendations.

This may seem like a strange request to put up on an Amsterdam-related board, but the main UK punters' forums tend to be unpleasant to post to, as they are filled with shitposting c***s who are only interested in stirring up flame wars, instead of answering questions; whereas I've been coming here in one form or another for 15 years and never found it to be less than polite even if people can't be helpful. I know there's a few UK posters here and I was hoping to get some tips after a less-than perfect experience with a new Service Provider (SP) I had recently.

Back in 2014-17 I used to have a solid rota of SPs as well as being able to afford to experiment more. However, this has gradually tailed off and I've now really only got one SP left from the old days. Even the B-team that I used to see has gradually moved on (the last of them, a black MILF, retired/disappeared over the lockdown here). Since 2019 I've been trying to meet some new SPs and develop a new stable of regulars, but it isn't going well. My last effort involved a Chinese SP with an address nearby my location, but when I arrived it turned out to be a hidden brothel with several working girls (none of whom was the lady on the AW profile), and was a bit chaotic.

The toothless old guy who was supposed to be running the brothel was utterly useless. This place was not run like Park 118 or another proper massage parlour; there was no line up, and girls and punters were wandering aimlessly about all over the place waiting to get a room or a shower. Many were not happy about being seen (them or me). By a fluke I ended up with "Amy", a half-South Korean/half Chinese lady who spoke good English, and who was here for just a month to wrack up £££ before jumping on a flight back to Qingdao the next day (i.e. I caught her just before she went home).

She seemed pretty young and in her late twenties, with quite big breasts for an Asian girl and a high-energy personality. She fleeced me ruthlessly when I was at my greatest disadvantage, (i.e. lying under her nubile but busty body while she rubbed herself up and down against me), another reason I prefer booking indies or negotiations at an RLD window over visiting a brothel--you still have your clothes on when the negotiations start and can walk away from a bad deal (as I did several times last year when visiting Amsterdam). However, Amy did at least came through vigorously and noisily when she was paid more. The only thing worse than being hustled by an SP is when you get hustled by an SP who still doesn't put out. Sadly, because of the "just take whoever is available" organisation of the place, there's no guarantee that if I ever went back I'd even run into an SP who took her job even as "seriously" as Amy did.

Anyway, the whole experience rubbed me wrong because I had to shell out a lot of extras that weren't mentioned in the profile I got kicked out ten minutes early after one cum. Fortunately I was horny (hadn't had a woman in months) and Amy was decent in bed, but the whole experience was ultimately just a mess. If I'd not been deprived of female companionship for months the stop-go upselling would have ruined the experience instead of just irritating me. As it was, it was just everything I hate about London brothels; hidden, badly managed, expensive and with SPs with a high turnover mentality. I therefore went home to delete/block everything about the place from my phone and internet history.

However, that leaves me right back where I was earlier, looking for a reliable list of indie SPs in London with whom to punt. I'd obviously prefer SPs in their 20s-30s, but experience has taught me that a good MILF is not to be turned down (especially when compared to a better looking but starfish type younger SP). I was wondering if anyone had any good SPs they were willing to recommend; ebony, OWO/CIM specialists and ladies who do anal would be of particular interest lol.

If I lived in London I'd be on the train to Europe every chance I got.

Yeah, it is much easier to navigate in Europe, and I've had some great sex experiences in Germany for example. London is a very hit and miss place until you've had the chance to build up a circle of reliable ladies of the night. My only problem is that I rarely have a legitimate excuse to visit the continent; for example last year I took a huge risk and ducked into Amsterdam for a quick shag break. However the ducking and diving frankly ruined the sex for me (despite meeting some lovely ladies that I'd see again in a heartbeat under better circumstances). For example I discovered just prior to going that there was a good chance a close relative of mine would have been travelling on the same Eurostar service I was taking to Brussels (coincidences don't just happen in movies it turns out), which was horrifying and led to an expensive last minute ticket change that torpedoed a good 20% of my punting budget. I need a job with more business travel or what have you that gives me "cover" to do my dirty deeds in peace and quiet.

what sites are you om when looking for UK escorts?

uppselling / getting ripped off sucks. leaves a bittersweet taste for days afterwards. However it comes with the hobby. Ive been there too. one time in Belgium where I payed extra for some
services she then refused to do (anal/CIM) .... what can you do? some lessons are expensive..

Lol. I understand what you mean. I once cancelled a holiday because a relative was going from the same airport,.at the same time. Now I don't care if anyone sees me any more. Hello and goodbye. Fancied a break, visiting a friend, etc.

Yep. I'd definitely be using the Eurostar more if I lived in London. Probably every other month. Rlds aren't my first choice, as some of you know I'm finding punting difficult at the moment. Would prefer a relationship, then swinging, then rlds. Can't seem to get in to it any more. But I am sure of one thing. I would visit a lot of the providers I've visited previously. Some I have gone back for more in the same day but they haven't been there. There's some that that will offer the gfe for sure.

I'd be going to Den Haag for Doubletstraat and in to Rotterdam for the swinger's club, it also has trans events. Also up to Leeuwarden. I don't know if it'll ever happen again tbh but if it does that'd be my plan. Personal choice. But just can't seem to do that mission any more. Have done it plenty times and had fantastic experiences. Doubletstraat would still give me a buzz due to all the Latinos.

Germany draws me more these days. Rlds I struggle with but I'm sure I'll punt again. But the swing clubs. The country. The food. The beer. I still enjoy a holiday there. The sex clubs are a buzz, and I admire their attitude to sex.

I just use Adultwork mainly, cross-checking likely candidates against UKP's wikipunting. Probably saved me from a few regretful mistakes. Anyway, after my last debacle I resolved to fork out for a British indie escort (hit and miss as I've found them to be too). This lady here gets good reviews and has been working since 2015, so I thought I might try her after the lockdown here ends (and if it all works out I might finally have someone who can do anal properly): https://bit.ly/3noRFF2

@Splodge, yeah, it was pure chance I found out... and given I was supposed to be at work in the office in London, more than a little awkward. Bullet dodged this time thank God. My dream job would be one that involved some foreign solo business trips (I'm not married but it would be awkward sneaking off from colleagues) to exotic parts that would let me sample some strange on the side. Preferably before sterling loses any more of its value. I've found that multiple punts too close together tend to be poor value for money too, as you are just too drained/overstimulated after the first few lol.

I echo that Europe is 100 times better than London.

However, I do live in London and have been punting there in between.

My recommendations probably aren't what you're looking for, but I tend to go to massage places and Soho walk ups. The two reasons are I know a few massage places that are reliable in what you'll get and the walk ups are cheap enough that you can start with a cheap session and give more if you like it, not loose too much if you don't and even walk before it starts. Not like adultwork where you've made an appointment.

Massages - Fantasia on Charing X road is £25 for half hour or £45 for one hour massage. £20 for HE, £40 for B2B with HE. Anything else, depends on the girl.

The massage walk down on Romilly st (there's only one) is good for Asian MILFs and they'll do most things for £45 on top of the £50 massage fee.

The walk up on Romilly Street is usually quite good and reliable. Also, the walk up on Greek Street (the one beside the Japanese knife shop and Jazz Bar, is reliable too.

I don't know if any of these options would be open to anal or CIM tho.

Thanks for the advice; I actually enjoy a visit to a Chinese massage place but have always been scattershot in my approach and never really used the central London shops. My experiences have been mixed, much like most punting, with my best results being Chinese MILFs working for themselves on Adultwork (not that profiles like that are thick on the ground). Will definitely check out the Romilly st shop and Fantasia in 2021.

I'd only done the walk-ups once before, a couple of years ago, when I'd had a surprisingly good encounter with a 21 year old Romanian girl in 34 Romilly st (if memory serves). Funnily enough I'd spotted the infamous 'models' sign on a door of one of the walk-ins back in March (just prior to the bug shutting everything down) when in central London to catch a play, and meant to re-try this year before the pandemic bolloxed everything up; but prior to that I'd never gone back after my initial session because 30 minutes there (plus some extras) hadn't been cheap and I figured I could get a longer session with fewer extras from an indie in a more discreet location (back when I was going through a hot streak of good escorts that has sadly long since ended).

Anyway, after reading your response this morning, I gave the walk ups another whirl this afternoon more or less on impulse (had been Christmas shopping so was in town when the thought occurred). Frankly, it was light years better than that the experience I was complaining about at the start of this thread, which took me off guard as the walk-ups are often even higher volume than a massage parlour (and the girls make their money on extras too). Basically I just got lucky because after half-assedly scouting locations, I tried 52 Greek street (a walk down) for the simple reason I could tell it was open from the outside.

When I got down there, Tina the maid was gorgeous and told me to come back in 20 minutes and that I wouldn't regret it, and she was right. The funny thing was that I completely believed her beforehand, as the tone of voice and the body language was eerily similar to the total confidence a German brothel manager had shown on my last day in Berlin when telling me to wait for a Moldovan lady on her team; that's always stayed with me because that lady is now in my top three best ever shaggers (including civilian), and I've always been annoyed I only got to have sex with her the once.

Anyway, it seems I'd inadvertently come on the day that Tina was maiding "Italian Anna", who is a cracker and pretty widely reviewed (https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?PHP ... c=285386.0) if you don't know of her (but I kind of guess you would if you go to Soho frequently?). Sadly Tina herself isn't available (now that would be an interesting threesome), but Anna tells me that a British girl who goes by Scarlet works in the same place as her and does CIM. So, looks like this pair will be my first port of call in 2021 when I get back to London after the holidays. Much obliged to you for the push because while it was a dollop of luck involved in getting Anna and not someone more mechanical, its (a) nice to meet a couple of escorts from Western Europe and (b) looks like I might be on to something good here.

Ah nice one. I was actually coming back to this thread to let you know that the walk ups bar 52 Greek Street and Peter Street were closed again. So it's good you found this one as it's the one of the only two opened. Nobody is wise as to why the others have closed down again.

I haven't actually been to this walk up/down before because it's very visible in that it shares an enterance with a clothing shop. Also haven't seen Anna before but thanks for the recommendation.

However....Scarlett is quite a legend. I've seen her a few times and she is definitely one of the best in Soho. Did the maid say that Scarlett will be working in 52 Greek st? And did she mention any days? Scarlett used to have a Twitter account that would list the different girls on different days but it got deleted.

If you like older Asian women, then San Ling massage shop in Swiss Cottage has someone working there called Lily...she's definitely 50+ and not much to look at (but not ugly) however she does pretty much anything for £60 (on top of the £45 massage fee for the hour). However, £105, although an hour, is much more than the walk ups and Swiss Cottage is far from South London.

Glad you had a good time, and please pass any info you have on Scarlett to me haha.

Hahaha, no problem and sure, if anything comes up about Scarlet I will let you know. I think it was Anna rather than the maid who mentioned Scarlet, when I asked if she knew any girls who did CIM. So she's around, but I can't claim for certain it would be 52 Greek street.

I'm glad I followed my instincts and didn't walk up 34 Romilly st on the weekend if it was shit then, as it would have been shut and I would have been a bit embarrassed to be wondering around looking for a shag!

According to Anna, Scarlet will be working at 52a Greek street starting next week, but she doesn't know which days. Afraid you'll have to check that out yourself as I will be out of the country from Friday!