First off all thanks again for the valuable information i gathered from this forum. Unfortunately it didnt help me get the most out of de wallen. I wonder how it would have been without all the warnings /advice. I am afraid the overall RLD experience no matter how experienced you are is poor in terms of sexual satisfaction. the selection of girls are way better at night time but flock of tourists wandering around making too much noise made me want to get the hell out. It really is a crazy place. It sure is better at day time but then again the selection of girls is not as good. You negotiate at the door enter the kamer and start right away. The girl wants you out as fast as possible.(understandable) the rooms are not the most ideal place to have sex in. no foreplay no conversation no flirting makes it hard to concentrate. and covered blowjob is just stupid. Seriously. Whats sex without kissing ? You dont get to do that on RLD. never. Believe it or not while i was on a stunning girl i kept asking the same question to myself. why am i doing this ?. Then there is this private houses . basically the same thing . the only difference is that you are more relaxed and the rooms are way better. But the number of girls working at the time you visit is an important factor. you may need to come and go all the time.
To make my visit worth it. I've decided to pay the premium for a high class escort. It really is expensive. with the money i paid i'd probably be able to have session with an entire side street of RLD. Do i regret it ? no. The experience was spectacular. You get to flirt and have a great sex with a dutch girl. real girl friend experience. (kissing and owo) .Considering how experienced an escort is about sex, it might be even better than with your girl friend :-).
oh by the way i just came from Amsterdam and prepare to pay 100e in RLD. 50e is still good but its like Microsoft still supporting legacy systems. They do support it but they dont want anyone ever use it anymore and encourages you to upgrade all the time.
YMMV i know. Its just me. Some ppl may be hooked with RLD and just like it the way it is. I just wanted to express my opinions for newbies and first timers. During my last visit i overheard conversations in RLD about how overrated it is. Probably the expectations are high before the first visit.
P.S I am going back in June. for business this time :-) I love Amsterdam. I am gonna visit each and every museum this time.

I think it really is a big case of ''YMMV'' in Amsterdam RLD, I think the girls have their own preferences and decide who they would like to enjoy time with, session/rip off etc. I've been Amsterdam once and within that time I opted for 4 girls the first 1? kamers was on stairs and me and my friend were both seriously stoned and we got ripped off with a 100 euro the other 3 times? I had great sessions, good conversations and some shared intimacy. the last girl I got? was really kinky and actually tried to kiss me believe it or not! kissed and left bite marks all over my neck. strange thing was? I made conversation with her straight away and when I did, she mentioned to me nobody ever talks to her during sessions? with me being quiet young I think RLD girls are more ''some of them'' lenient for that matter. I would not visit a RLD girl if all seemed distant and session was just like f***ing a dummie that would feel even worse! besides actually paying to fuck some of these girls. you are correct though in some sense in what you say as CBJ is silly and no kissing is a big downfall, but then again would you want to kiss hookers?

To my shame I have kissed a few hookers lol. Don't know why. It just happened. Tried not to but the few I have just tempted me to much and I forgot I was even paying for sex. I find the best service comes from older ladies usually although not always the case. Have been to private houses in the UK and had excellent service with younger ladies . Some of the best in fact but manly I prefer mature. Especially Latinas. They are so friendly most of the time. Others such as Hungarians can be too. Don't think I've ever met a nasty Hungarian sex workers and hope I never do.

I find the younger girls in rlds to be a different kettle of fish altogether . I don't use them usually unless I can't resist one. As for a blow job uncovered then frankfurt is the place for that but I wouldn't advise it. Can catch all sorts and once I was pissing what felt like glass for a week. Thankfully caught nowt. So a condom is an must for me with these girls. Shemales and trans take some risks it seems. Every time I've been to one they don't use a condom for oral!!!!!!!

Well, my trip thus far has turned out quite differently than I expected. I thought by now for sure I'd be on a first name basis with half the girls in De Wallen, but I've only wound up having a handful of sessions so far.

I wound up springing for an escort last night, very high end, and good lord, the difference in service is night and day. That woman fucked me into a completely different plane of existence, I literally have no desire to bother with the RLD anymore outside of maybe Max and a few other standouts at this point. This girl was so good, I already have another session booked with her again on Friday, and I've already spent 900 € on her. I honestly consider that the best money I have ever spent on sex.

I guess for me, the biggest issue with De Wallen is all the uncertainty. I walk around and I look at the girls and it's hard to pull the trigger because I always have doubts running through my head. Is this girl going to rip me off? Is she going to be any good? Is she going to do the things I want to do? Yeah, you can ask at the door, but the ripoff artists will always promise you the world at the door then deliver nothing. Even once you get inside, there are uncertainties. Where can I touch her? What can I ask her to do? If I do this, is she gonna get pissed at me?

And then there's the upsell. The upsell is what kills me. Here's the thing; I wouldn't mind the upsell if it was just presented reasonably as an option for an extra that had not been previously discussed with no malicious intent. I had a girl do that, asked for an extra 50 for 69/DATY, and I was ok with that because it's an extra, and we hadn't discussed it beforehand. Most of the time, that's not the case though. Most of the time, the upsell is not a choice, it's an ultimatum. You can decline, if you choose, but get ready for 5 minutes of robot sex before you're rushed out the door. Either way, once that ultimatum hits, you're getting screwed one way or another.

I really don't understand the mentality of the rip-off artists. I suppose they do adequate business making a quick buck off ignorant tourists every now and then, but to me, that seems short-sighted. Ok, you've gotten your 50 or 100 €, but that person is probably never coming back. You never know who you're scamming. Could be a tourist who was curious and was probably a one-timer anyway, could be a veteran who could've become a regular customer. The thing is, you're gonna get the one-timers regardless of whether you're good or not, but if you're lousy, you lose the regulars. Take Max, for example. I have seen her twice so far this trip. I will probably see her again. She is fantastic. I sought her out because people here recommended her. In turn, I will recommend her as well. Because she offers good service, she has made a repeat customer in me, and perhaps my recommendation will bring in some new regulars as well. You have to think she's putting away at least a couple thousand extra euros each month simply because of all good publicity she gets. The scam artists don't get this. Max shines not only because she's good, but because of how lousy a lot of the other options are.

There's a lot of money out there to be had simply by doing at least the bare minimum of what you should be doing, girls. A high tide raises all boats.