Hi I just woundering before I go again back to amsterdam I dont want to get robbed or mugged off by a window girl happened three times


Each time I go in we agree 50 euros for the basic suck and fuck but one girl started and then said extra for more suck and fuck the another girl suck for a bit and try to charge more for fuck ans touching

To be honest im fed up does anyobe have tips to avoid this or any other places such as a brothol I can go to

What's going on in the RLD and why don't the idiots who run the empty "clubs" on Overtoom, at the old Jan Bik, and at the former Society Anonyme lower their bloody prices already?

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TBH thorough research in the girl reviews here is the solution.

There's a simple solution to this.

Don't visit random girls- most girls you will see just walking around are not reported on here, certainly not regularly so there is no real way to know what type of service you will get other than taking a chance.

Just stick with know, trusted, reliable good providers with many positive reviews here.

Head over to the girls section of the site all the info you need is on there.

I can recommend Melanie, Simona and if you can find them and like Milfs Emma/Anna.

Problem with this is that, girls reviews are very limited/not up to date with number of selections, de wallen has started to get a bad rep from all the tourist and the sex workers themselves. If you see a girl you like either grow a pair and go up the window and talk to her and see how she is, most girls tend to be bitchy and make you come inside to talk at that point just walk away.

I've gotten ripped off 2 times and I learned from it both of the times I went in after she said 50 euros and then she charged another 50 its not as bad as being charged an extra 100 on top of the 50 for just s&f without variety of positions and extras. There are a lot of people who gives good services without ripping you off but the minor who rip you off cause a bad rep for the entire sex worker.

Treat them with respect as you want some one to treat you when you talk to them, don't be like loud brits who are just lurkers and attempt to harass the sex workers no offence any brits on here you. My experience at de wallen and i spent like 3000 Euros over like a week while I was there so its kind of a ok sample pool experience a lot of girls.

Alternative is visiting private house Park118 never been personally but heard good reviews and going there myself when i'm there during late feb.

These days if you walk around the RLD, pick a random girl and expect to get a good session for €50 you are setting yourself up for disappointment more often than not.

If I want to be confident of getting a good fuck I will stick to my regulars (for a new visitor - pick one of the recommended girls, even if it takes a bit of effort to locate them and wait for them to be free. Yes it's a small selection, but the favourites are favourites for a reason. To widen the selection, also consider lesser known girls mentioned favourably in trip reports - not all of them find their way into "The Girls" section).

The privehuis are also a good option as the prices are fixed and the service should be more consistent than you find in the RLD. Its an interesting change of scene with more time to relax and enjoy a massage. Park 118 has the best reputation at the moment, Asmara (which used to be very good) has had poorer reviews lately but might still be worth a punt, and Vienna should be OK but is more expensive. See my post in this thread which links to further info: Brothels

I do visit unknown girls in the RLD if I like the look of them, but I tend to view it as money spent on research with no guarantee of success!

If a girl offers €50 suck & fuck at the door, I think it's best to stick to a €50 session even if the girl suddenly announces later that sex is €50 extra and you end up getting CBJ only. You can say something to the effect that you might have considered paying her €100 if she'd been straight with you at the door!

The girls that say upfront that blowjob is €50 and sex is €100 shouldn't necessarily be dismissed if they really turn you on (they may turn out to be the more honest and straightforward girls!). You can start with a €50 session and then offer them another €50 for sex a bit later if you are enjoying yourself.

If you are a regular visitor to Amsterdam it's not that difficult to end up with a small "virtual harem" of regulars who can be relied on for a good fuck for either €50 or €100.

Some girls are a pain for upselling at €50 but are great at €100, others will just upsell for everything they can think of (different positions extra, top off extra, touching extra, sex extra) and then even if you agreed to all that they would cut your time very short so that you need to pay extra again....

Occasionally you might find a girl who is so close to your ultimate fantasy that you are prepared to put up with more crap (bad attitude, upselling e.t.c) than usual, but generally its better to 'cut your losses' rather than agree to upselling for something that was supposed to be included in the session. Instead of handing over another €50 to a girl who is ripping you off, you might as well leave the kamer, find a recommended girl, and hand it to her!

Sometimes I don't get much out of an initial €50 session (maybe just a CBJ) but I might like the girl enough to visit her again for a €100 session on another day (for example if she spends the session telling me what she would do for €50 extra I might decline but tell her I'll consider visiting her again a couple of days later. If she gets the idea that you are a potential regular she might settle down and give a good peformance when you return).

Sometimes I think there is a bit of judgement to make about whether the girl is a stone-cold rip-off, or if she's just a bit of a naughty tease who will "try it on" but then give you a decent session when she's finished messing about. Rather than act all outraged about upselling it's probably better to treat it as a bit of a game, with the vibe that "I like you but I'm not that desperate for sex". On the one hand I would normally take the attitude that I don't pay for "bullshit" extras like touching, top off, different positions and so on, but on the other hand I'm quite happy to consider a €100 session if the girl is hot enough and gives me a good time. I think it does help if you are friendly and can have a bit of a banter with the girls (even the naughty / irritating upselling ones can be quite fun) as if they don't like you they are more likely to give a poor performance and not care if you return.

I would probably fit most of the girls into 4 categories:

1) Good, reliable €50 girls, the ones that crop up again and again as favourites. They prefer to work hard and keep busy, they get a good reputation and a large number of clients and make money from the volume of sessions. Also there are some lesser known girls who give good sessions at €50, just trying to do a good job without being greedy, cute as hell but more girl-next-door in bed than porn-star-experience.

2) Stunning girls who will give a decent session for €100 but are unwilling to accept less because they know they are extremely hot! They have more of an "I'm worth it" attitude where they are willing to give you a good fuck but they want to be paid what they think they are worth. They prefer a smaller volume of clients with money to spend. They may end up giving you a good fuck for €100 but they will angle for more if they can persuade you to stay for longer sessions or extras. Might be a little bit frosty at first but have potential as a regular fuck and are more friendly when they get to know you.

3) Some of the girls are fairly lazy and are used to giving a lacklustre performance to drunk tourists who might only visit the Amsterdam RLD once in their lives. Can typically be found looking bored on OzA. If you negotiate / engage with them a little bit you might be able to coax them into a decent performance, but otherwise a typical €50 session might be CBJ only, just pull your trousers down baby.... top-off if you are lucky! They might give a decent performance at €100 (or even at €50 if you negotiate sensibly) or might turn out to be........

4) ....... rip off girls who are a complete waste of time. Money doesn't buy anything except an inept blowjob followed by an escalating spiral of upselling, irritation, and argument about what you just paid for. Cut your losses and run!

What I like about the RLD is that some of the girls are seriously hot, and even if the service levels are somewhat uneven it's worth taking the occasional chance on a stunner. A few burned €50s don't seem so bad when you eventually get to sink your cock into you hot little fantasy girl.....

Fabulous advice Aldebran. I will typically go for a 50e "tryout" for the first time with a girl. If a girl is hot and has a good attitude at the door, I'll go for a 50e session just to test the waters. If things go well, I am usually interested to spend more time anyway. If things don't go well, or she starts up selling right away, I'm usually turned off anyway and never fall for the up-sell just to "get my money's worth". I consider it great that I can sample the service for 50e and then decide whether to buy more.

This doesn't solve the problem for someone who wants a good fuck for 50e. The only way to do that is to stick to the girl reviews here. My attitude is that a good fuck with a new girl is always going to cost 100e minimum. I'll be pleasantly surprised otherwise. And, yes, your attitude goes a long way toward getting your money's worth. Treating a girl with respect pays off every time.

Completely agree with what you've said, but what i did last time seem to work so, with the stunning girls who know what they are worth, I say i've got 70-80e and if they agree i would go in and if they say i don't play/fuck cheap guys then you walk away.

I feel like if you tell them a lie that you've got this much money then they would offer this much or charge you for what you've got but then if they attempt to say a 100 only then i reconsider is this going to be worth it and if i do decide then i would say be right back going to cash point and double back act like i went to get money.

I see most people getting ripped off from the small ally, but its just an observation I made last time I was there most i've gotten ripped off for is like 150e which was both times which i got fuck all for.

My advice is to read the forums ,most of the reviews are honest and a good indication of any rip offs
the girls section is a good place to start.

in the 20 years i have been visiting Amsterdam , it has changed so much , i went 12 years without a rip off
mainly because there was several good providers , these days not so many but there are a few gems , but unfortunately there are more rip offs then before .

On all of my trips i have always spent a day or two in other cities , i would recommend Alkmarr where you still get 15 mins for €40 , Den Hagg is another area worth a visit , both rlds have a reasonable selection , the main having some great stunners again its cheaper then the Dam.

Hi All!

I am new to this forum and have purposely created an account to participate in these type of conversations, as I will be travelling to Dam for the very first time.

I have a question that relates to getting ripped off by the sex worker.

Say we both agreed that it was 50 euros for suck and fuck, but later down the line the sex worker tries to rip me off, if I were to take my money back from her, what would happen to me?

Thanks in advance

Ice Baby

You wouldn't take your money back because A. the girls usually have a locked box they put the money in, and B. if you tried, she'd hit the alarm button and the police would come (assuming the bikers don't get there first).

Don't try it. Just take the hit and walk away. Accept that the money's gone and go find a better girl.

My thought process has always been, whether high end escort, window girl, prostitute, hooker, whore, etc., I certainly have more to lose than she does. Probably by a long shot. Therefore, I never enter into any disputes. If there is a miscommunication, it is always going to be my bad. If they demand more money for services performed or negotiated, they get it. No questions asked. I never get annoyed or hostile. I never give them any reason to get pissed. I have only ever been in one bad situation, and my whole goal was to get it done with, get her out and hopefully she would forget I exist the moment she left the room. Mission accomplished.

I can always make more money. However, coming back from the actions of a scorned working girl would be a lot more difficult.

Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated.

I also have another query if you don't mind.

After reading posts on people getting ripped off in RLD, my alternative move was to go to a brothel, Park 118 to be exact. What are your experiences with this brothel, if you have any?

Once again, thank you very much in advance

Ice Baby

Ive visited park118 twice and had a great time on both occasions.
Its true the girls might be as hot as you can find in a window but the quality of service is good.
I stayed for an hour both times .....its much more relaxed than a window and im pretty sure a far less chance of getting ripped off

Some recent Park 118 reviews on here:

Park 118 Report & Misc.----Oct 26-Oct 31, 2016

Park 118 - Eva - Amazing, Highly Recommend!

Park 118 - Cindy - Another amazing P118 girl!

Don't be too put off by the thought of getting ripped-off in the RLD, there are still some very nice girls working there (both in terms of looks and personality). If you pick a random girl and negotiate €50 for naked suck & fuck, usually the worst that will happen is that you end up getting a €50 blow-job from a hot girl still wearing her bikini...... it might not be exactly what you wanted but it's not the end of the world! Think about it - if you could show a picture of some of these girls to the average man in the street and ask "would you pay €50 for a blow job from this girl in her bikini?" they would probably think the idea sounded quite reasonable ;) Very few of these girls want the hassle that would come with taking €50 and doing nothing whatsoever, so you usually get at least a CBJ!

For unknown girls, the main thing to remember is start with €50 and don't hand over any more cash to a girl who has blatantly lied to you about what you are going to get. Just take whatever is on offer for the €50 you've paid and then pick another girl.

€100 sessions - might be worth considering if the girl is hot enough but I would suggest you don't pay more than €50 initially to an unknown girl until she's earned it with her mouth (most girls will accept an extra €50 for sex if you initially chose €50 for CBJ only, this gives you time to evaluate her performance before committing to a €100 session). That's really about it; you can't get ripped off for more than €50 if you make sure that you get something for your money before you hand over any more. My opinion is that if a girl is really worth more money she should demonstrate it with a good blowjob instead of sitting there telling you how great the session would be if you paid a bit more...

And of course remember to negotiate at the door in the first place (ask for suck and fuck, nude, touching).

With a bit of luck you might end up with a lovely girl like Elena who looks a bit too good to be true but turns outs to be as friendly as she is sexy.... €50 well spent just by picking out a hot girl purely on looks.

Hi Aldebran,

Thanks for the advice! I will be sure to follow your advice and hopefully avoid getting ripped off, but before I plan on going to RLD, my initial move is to head off to Park 118.

Have you got any experience that you would like to share if you have any? I'm travelling there tomorrow and I'm very excited.

Thanks

Ice Baby

I've only been to Park 118 once about 8 years ago, so I don't really have anything useful to say about it! I always used to visit Asmara which was very good back then. Sometimes the prive girls are less stunning than you'll find in the RLD, but you do get some really nice girls who prefer to work somewhere a bit more discrete than an RLD window. Anyway, it's a worthwhile experience to visit a traditional brothel.

In a prive I quite like the drama of waiting for the girls to appear, and then choosing from them like a king in his harem ;) Sometimes the best way to choose is by how the girl looks at you, if she smiles or seems moody. I picked one of my favourite all-time girls in a prive line-up just because she seemed really warm in the way she said hello... plus I liked her Russian accent. Like some prive girls she was a little older than I might normally go for, but she was an excellent fuck and really lovely.

Sometimes it can be fun to end up with someone slightly different from your usual type in a prive (I like petite girls but it's a refreshing change to be smothered by a massive pair of breasts). It's a pleasant contrast with the RLD - you can have a nice sensual, relaxing session in a prive, then go to the bustling RLD next day and have a quick but satisfying fuck with some tasty young cutie.

Enjoy Park 118! And have fun in the RLD, the girls are entertaining even when they're being naughty...

I visited Park 118 last summer. They showed me 3 girls, one was a sickly looking scag, another weighed about 80 pounds and was quivering and the third was like 6 foot 2 and muscular. I passed on all and left. Guess I picked a bad night.

I've written about a couple of Park 118 girls fairly recently - Eva and Cindy - both of whom gave fantastic experiences. The first time I went to Park 118 within the last few months, they had around ten or so girls working, and having made my notes in advance (from hookers.nl), most of them had very good reviews. I booked girls in advance on my subsequent visits, so I didn't get to see how many girls were working on those visits.

Regarding Asmara, I also visited this place once a couple of years ago. I may have been unlucky, or it might have just gone downhill over the years, but it was easily the worst experience I've ever had anywhere; a complete rip-off, even worse than anything I've encountered in the RLD. I also wrote about this experience. Asmara are also well known for using pictures of girls on the website who don't actually work there, which should ring alarm bells for anyone thinking of visiting. I would strongly advise avoiding Asmara!


Did she also have lots of tattoos? If so, you may have missed out on an amazing experience! :)

Hey guys,

IM HIGH AS FUCK right now, as you can guess, I have arrived in Dam.

Took a stroll to the city centre and went into Greenhouse to smoke some potent weed.

Man, i got the super silver haze and its amazing.


I really love the advise, and I will pay a visit to Park 118 and shall share my experience!

Happy Holiday

Ice Baby