Could also consider Toronto sometime, Diesel. We have a great scene here and if you’re ever headed this way, I can give some recommendations.

Same here! Lots of great gals here

Thanks, grimnul and testing. I did enjoy Toronto. I wasted opportunities, I guess.

Yes, basic advice about Toronto appreciated. Was there in a dump in Cabbagetown in Dec 2017 for four nights, but didn't know anything about the escort scene or the cannabis scene. Just saw the Leafs, Raptors, Hockey HOF, museums, etc.

Would love to maybe go late August---I'm burnt out. Any info on outcall, incall, budget full-service bordellos, and where to legally buy weed appreciated.

If you're looking for girls here I'd recommend TERB. That's the Toronto escort board. Lots of girls doing incalls either working independently or for agencies. A lot of the agency girls tend to be cheaper than the independent gals, who charge upwards of $400. If you're looking for an outcall the most reliable agency is probably Cupids Escorts, which is about $350 or more for an hour, depending on where you're staying. If budgeting is a concern for you I'd probably stick with the agency girls. Lotta gems out there for $250 an hour.

As for weed: you can't walk more than 2 minutes in this city without bumping into a weed store here. It has been fully legal since Oct. 2018. There have been days where I was walking around downtown and some guy was just giving away free pre-rolls to advertise for his store. Toronto is way better than Europe in terms of weed, so you're in luck there (but not in terms of scenery or beauty, haha).

Thanks, testing. I'm going to re-check out Toronto. 2017 was a weird year for me. Can't believe I didn't even know about the liquor laws---I went into endless groceries and 7-11s looking for beer. And I was an idiot staying in a Cabbagetown dump last time.

I guess I'm blocked from up-to-date weed info. The web only has old articles that say you have to preorder and pick up from dispensaries. I guess that's long gone, correct? Are these places licensed and on the web, or it the Wild West? ---like NYC is now with 1000+ weed stores (which is great).

We don't really have dispensaries in Toronto, we just have straight up weed stores. Dispensaries were more of a 2017 thing when weed legality was still in a grey area and people just decided to make dispensaries for some reason, haha. You can pretty much just go in and buy what you need now, no pre-order necessary (although that is also an option).

You can also buy it online and have it delivered to you, but if you're visiting for a short amount of time the physical stores are prob yr best option. Have fun!

We have more weed stores here than we have Starbucks. Hell, you can get it delivered to you via UberEats. You’ll have no problems at all there.

Thanks again, testing and grimnul.

Not crazy about online-package prices for a four-night stay in Toronto in Aug or Sept this year (Montreal is booked for early November and is only about 40 percent the cost of warm-weather Toronto).

I do recall perusing MERB last year and finding many nice and reasonably priced escorts at about $200-$240 Can. for outcall. I was in too fucked up a place to call anyone; I was surprised to see streetwalkers in regular neighborhoods. I've been checking out TERB, but the prices are much higher. Plus my request to join has not been OK'd yet.

So as nice as the weed scene sounds, the prices for women, planes, trains, automobiles, and mediocre hotels are really obscene for a person with a moderate income (aka "poor"). I hope things settle down soon so I can book.

Any OK lower-priced escort services to recommend?

The lowest-prices escorts you'll find in Toronto are most likely at agencies. Look around on TERB when you're a member there and you'll see a bunch of incalls. There are still some girls avail at diff incalls for $250 an hour, but there has been some kind of a push in recent years to list some girls as "VIP" who start at $300.

Yeah, it's not a cheap city. Just like Amsterdam, the expensive places to stay are in the city and more affordable places are just outside the city.

looks like amsterdam hotel prices are more expensive compared to other cities this year? is this a recommendation from the city to all hotel owners to lower the numbers of cannabis tourism ? or just maybe me who can't get a good deal anymore?


ususally Im going for 3stars hotel. so nothing fancy, not bad either. all are more expensive to book compared to previous years.

any other who experience the same?

Yes, a nightmare.

My very basic hotel on Centurribaan in De Pijp, affordable for a decade in a great, clean area with great food, and about 5 minutes by foot from Park 118, has essentially doubled the price. The place is so basic and small I can't see it not blowing back in their faces. I hate tourist areas, hate the noise of the RLD's corpse, hate what Damrak has become, and I felt like I've lost a hidden retreat. But Park 118's reasonable prices have been gone for a while.

It sucks.

Yeah, I've been trying to take a little trip back to Amsterdam for awhile now but the prices are too much. I might wait until it's not the summer months anymore, because I'm guessing it'll be less expensive? But I really have no idea. What do you guys think?

no I think this is part of the " anti cannabis tourism program". this is targeting us who return a handful of times every year....

tourists who come once in a lifetime to check out some art museums dont care if its 150euro or 200euro/night.


prices went up already in January 2023.


edit, well this is what Im guessing. not confirmed.... I might be wrong.

Flying from southeast USA its pretty much $2K for a reasonable flight path until near winter where it might drop to $1400, just awful. All I want is just to take a redeye for a 3 day weekend. I haven't been since summer 2022 and my 2nd ever. It sounds like its changed. But even in 2022 many were telling me RLD sucked, but despite past its former glory I really enjoyed it. The fast food approach of being able to casually size up girls, many to me I thought were pretty hot. As long as there's solid talent and access I hope to push for a trip.

I agree.

Maybe AMS was better in the 1970s, or 1980s, or whenever. Now, even with the crowds at weekends, the "hosts" and the one way systems at night, it is STILL awesome!

For a couple of days each year, I can live like a king, strolling down the street admiring hundreds of pretty girls almost naked in their windows. When I see the one I want, I hand over a few pieces of paper and she is mine...

Off for another trip in a few weeks time, anyone interested in a trip report when I get there?

Of course!
Got a couple of trips later in the year.

Please.

yes please do a report , always interesting to t read

Honestly, I do agree that the whole “De Wallen is complete shit now” mentality is a bit overblown. I think it comes down to your expectations and you budget. If you’re expecting full GFE sex for €50, then you’re obviously going to be disappointed. However, if you come into it with measured expectations and all you really want is a bit of quick fun and you don’t really care all that much how much it costs (within reason, of course), I think there is still plenty of fun to be had. I think there are probably a bunch of great ladies still there, it’s just that very few people here still visit De Wallen, so we never get reports of new stars.

I will say, though, that a big part of it for me, at least, is the ambience and the accessibility. If they do wind up moving everything out of De Wallen and I can’t just walk there in ten minutes from my hotel, I’m probably out. SS is fantastic and if I were living in Europe, I might go for a weekend here and there just for a booking or two with them, but from Canada, it just doesn’t make sense to spend thousands of dollars to fly out there just for a few days (not to mention the jetlag).

Just my opinion, of course, but I still had plenty of fun my last few trips.

There's something going on, grimnul. And it sucks ass.

The 3-star basic hotel I stayed at in December in De Pijp was 80 euros a night.

I contacted the hotel the other day about the same dates for 2023. The same room is now 300 euros a night and the hotel seem to have been bought out by a corporation.

350 percent inflation is outrageous. What scares me more is that people will pay this for a subpar hotel near Park 118, hence making Amsterdam unaffordable for most---even outside the canal rings.

It's a shame for me because I'm limited in my ability to travel to new places and Park 118, despite the new tipping hustle, was looking better than last year.

Again, once weed is available for tourists in Germany, I imagine only youth from Britain will still shell out for the Corpse of Amsterdam.