Cmanc from this board asked for some more info on Brazil.

I\\\'d highly recommend a trip to Brazil for mongering. It is only slightly behind AMS in my book, although there are many who rate it much higher. I think it all depends on what you are looking for. I highly value being able to quickly choose from a large number of girls, spend 15 or 30 minutes fucking them, then take a break doing something interesting, and then repeat 5 or so times throughout the day :-). For those that like hanging out in clubs between sessions, or having a girl spend a night with you in your hotel or apartment, then Brazil would probably rate higher than AMS for you.

It has been several years since I have been to Brazil and due to the low US dollar, it is not the screaming bargain it once was. The girls are still a great deal, but airfare to Brazil tends to be higher than to Europe and you don\\\'t see as many offseason fares. The going rate for a high quality girl is typically around R120/hr. R = the Brazial Real currency, and With the current exchange rate of around 2R per $, this is around $60/hr. About four years ago, the exchange rate was 4R per $ which made mongering a screaming bargain of $30/hr. If you can get there cheaply, it truly is a bargain.

As I mentioned in another post, probably a little more than half the girls will do anal which can be a nice change of pace. BBBJ is also very common and is the norm in many places. While relatively safe, if you are at all concerned about STD, it is best to stay covered.

The mongering scene tends to vary by region....

Escorts are common and tend to be available in all regions. They\\\'ll come to your hotel, but often they work out of their own apartments and you schedule a visit with them. Many of these chicks are model quality, with some of the appearing in Latin Playboy, various pornos, etc.

One of my most memorable sessions was with Patricia Kimberly:

http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/gar ... mberly.htm
http://www.contatos.com.br/nome.php?nom ... iakimberly


I have since scene in various pornos like the ones here:
http://www.thirdmovies.com/search.php?& ... tor_id=491 I had an extreme quality 3 hr session for R250 (which at today\\\'s exchange rate is around $125). Took her in all sorts of positions, multiple blow jobs, and unlimited finger fucking in both cunt and ass. I dropped a load fucking her the ass doggy style and another load in the ass with her legs up over my shoulders. I wish I had found out about Kamagra back then, as the main drawback of this session was the downtime needing to recharge between spurts. One plus with Patricia is unlike many Brazilian girls, so spoke limited English. This helps, but to be honest even if a girl is fluent in English, I still find it kind of awkward hanging around and making small talk with a complete stranger. With Viagra, if you could get back to fucking with in a few minutes I think it would be truly be a couple of hours of straight bliss. I have also found out now that real Viagra is purchasable through pharmacies there without a prescription.

An invaluable resource to get info on the girls is the rating system http://www.gpguia.net/phpbb/phpbb2/index.php (seems to be temporay access problems right now) All the reviews are in Portuguese, but if you use something like http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ you can usually get a usable translation. At a minimum, even without translation you\\\'ll be able to easily discern how many favorable reviews a girl has, whether she does anal, Cum In Mouth, etc.

To give you an idea of the quality of girls available, you can check out a few of these escort sites: I\\\'ve found that unlike many countries, the pictures here are pretty much what you see is what you get.
http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/acompanhantes.htm
http://www.erosguide.com.br/HOME.htm
http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acompanh ... =0&ordem=2
http://www.classebrasil.com/principal.htm
http://www.helenas.com.br/principal.htm
http://www.karlaloira.com/principal.htm
http://www.gpsp.com.br/acompanhantes-sao-paulo.asp


The big drawback with the escort scene is that the cities tend to be large, and travelling and scheduling sessions can be a pain, especially if you don\\\'t speak the language. As you can see the quality of the chicks is fantastic, so if you have the time and can find someone who speaks English and schedule a session time that works, this is a fabulous option.

However, if you are there only for a short time, finding an available slot can be difficult on short notice, and logically it is hard to plan for several sessions per day which is what I like to do.

The good news is that there are other good choices available where you can . In Sao Paulo these are called clinicas and in Rio they call them Termas. While I haven\\\'t been to any German FKK clubs, they sound very similiar.

Terma translates roughly into Sauna club, and you pay about a R50 charge for entrance into the club. Once in, you change into a robe and then going into a lounge area where there are a bunch of half naked chicks dancing and will hang out with you while they try to entice you for a session with them. They often have a complimentary dinner or lunch buffet going on. There is usually a bunch of chicks dancing (and I tell you some of these Brazilian chicks sure know how to shake their ass on the dance floor!) Some minimal action takes place outside in the lounge as people take a mini test drive to see if the chemistry with a girl is decent. If you decide to take a chick, it is typically around R100/hr and you get a key to a room where you take the girl for action.

Clinicas are roughly the same, but you dispense with the robe/sauna shit and just have a receiving area. There\\\'ll often be a book that you can browse through with pictures of the chicks that are working that day, and then after a while they\\\'ll call a line up where the available chicks will come out one by one and you can choose who you want.

The quality of girls tends to be decent at the higher end establishments. Probably 70%+ are European/lighter skin Latin looking, but Brazil also has a large native and Black population which make up the remaining girls. I never went, but I heard in lower end establishements the ratio is likely reverse, and you\\\'ll also get a more skanky looky girl often with tats. Also, big butts tend to be a local favorite, so I am told you tend to see a larger woman than the more petite chicks I am attracted to.

I don\\\'t speak Portuguese, so a detailed \\\"interview\\\" was a lot harder than what you might do with a window girl in AMS, but you still can usually get an okay sense of what a girl will be like with how she interacts as you stumble through your questions. It helps to have a few key phrases with what you are looking for written down on tiny flash cards that you could just show to the girls. A real simple method is just asking if she is completa, which basically means she will take in the ass and bare back blow job.

A lot of these clinicas have specials that they call a 4 hand massage. For about R40 more this means you can take 2 chicks. (I guess I good chunk of a normal session goes to cover the room, so adding on another girls is a lot cheaper than a normal session with 1 girl and 1 room. My experience here has been mixed. So much depends on the chemistry of you and the girls and the chemistry of the girls amongst themselves. My best experience has been when I picked one chick, and then let her pick the chick she wanted to come with us. This resulted in a very memorable blow as the each laid down in front of doggy style taking turns slurping my cock. When they weren\\\'t taking turns, they\\\'d often playfully each take a side of my dick to run their tongues up and down culmanating with a few kisses between themselves when they reached the head. It is also kind of cool if you have two different size chicks to immediately contrast as you take turns fucking them. For the BJ there is no issue in alternating unlimited between the two, but when fucking, they insisted on a condom change each time you slipped into a different cunt (or ass). If it wasn\\\'t for this restriction, I think duos would be much better. I\\\'ve often fantasized about having two chicks bent over before me doggy style where I take 5 or 6 thrusts in one cunt before switching to the next. Changing condoms didn\\\'t quite allow this, but it still was quite nice having both pose in the same position while you were busy taking one. But the reality is you only have 1 dick, and while you are fucking one of them, if you can\\\'t quickly switch to the other, you essentially have one chick laying there idle a good part of your session.


Typical clinicas will have 10 - 30 chicks available. The same is true for termas, althought there are a few in rio like 4x4 that has about 150.

Here\\\'s a link to a few typical clinicas in Sao Paulo:
http://www.berrinimassagem.com.br/massagistas.htm
http://www.onna.com.br/index.php?option ... &Itemid=65

An invaluable guide that covers all Brazilian logistics like phrases, a good list of clinicas and termas, etc is here:


Bubba Boy\\\'s guide to Brazil
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/f ... ge=6&pp=15

P.S. Sorry about the backslashes, not sure what software I am running that is inserting them before any quote.

Thanks a lot MiamiDave, for the effort you have been making in sharing all this valuable information with us, about Brazil!

Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro are the best hunting grounds on the planet. The possibilities are limitless from well known celbrities from TV, music industry to playmates, porn stars and escorts/clubs.

...and the brazilieiras lov sex. There is no covered BJ if you don't want to and anal is pretty much standard. Their attitutde is very GFE like you would never find in Europe or US.

Just my 2 cents.

GK

Nice info Dave, thanks for sharing. I have read about some terma escapades over at ISG and I must say Brazil sounds exciting.

What about the bar scene and picking up non-pros? I heard in some S. American towns it is easy and in some it is impossible.

Also, what do you think to checking out Brazil on one's own for the first time? I don't have any friends who would be interested in such a mongering journey. Is it worth it? Much else to do for the solo traveller?

MiamiDave, that was a great post! Lots of useful info. I've never been to Brazil but its always been near the top of my wish list. Reading though these posts made me remember an old thread (only about 2-3 years ago) that came up on one of the Thailand message boards titled, "Thailand or Brazil??". I saved it and just looked back at it, and thought it had some good perspectives that some of you would find useful. Actually there are alot of perspectives on the Brazil mongering scene, so it fits this current thread quite well.

Remember that LOS = "Land of Smiles" = Thailand

This thread contains comments from different posters which are separated by the dotted lines, and I've removed the names of the posters, etc. Here it is:



Thailand or Brazil?

For those who have been to both. Which one do you prefer if any and why?
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Brazil is a place where riches or poors, whites or blacks, from the chic districts of Ipanema, the favelas of Duque de Caxias, the artists districts of Sao Paulo or the metissed suburbs of Salvador, nobody is ashamed to be happy, to be beautiful, to be optimist, to be romantic, and to show it with simplicity.

But maybe I didn't answered your question, so let's go straight to the point : for partying and doing the nasty with the sexiest and most enthousiastics girls on the planet, Brasil remains the GOLDEN STANDARD. Period.
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been to both few times each. love the women in both spots but the money gos a alot farther in the los then in rio right now ,the terma are a blast the women in rio get mad if you dont come and they are more into sex then there thailand sisters ,you will have to give both a try both are fun and i will keep going to both . rio is getting to be a little more dangerest now for the beginers . but if your a vertern you know what to look for, shit fingers , scams, runners . if your just starting in the hobbie pattaya is your best bet.
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I've been to LOS probably 12 times or so spread over 25 years and Rio DJ 6 times over the past 6 years. They are VERY different places.
Thailand really hit the map as a place for "Single Male" travel by western servicemen (US, Aussies, Brits, Canadians, etc...) so it was always relitively safe and very easy to get laid in.
The working girls of BKK & Pattaya are so used to guys coming and going (so to speak) that it's easy to get around, find the hotspots and get what you went all that way to get (into a nice set of panties!).
In Rio, you really need to know where to go, where to stay and its is much more dangerous than Thailand will ever be. I can honestly say I have more fun in Rio than Thailand. I think it's partly due to my love for the beach and the beaches in and around Rio are awesome.
I can spend the day on the beach with my GF, drink & eat at the many beach spots then spend my nights going out to the many great night spots. I also have friends there now and condos to stay in when I go. The girls are pretty much beyond belief. Anything goes with these girls. I also feel so comfortable with the people (the ones I hang out with) that it's almost like being home, only with all the sex I could ever want. You just stay away from anything that your instincts tell you is trouble and you are OK. I have had a few close calls in Brazil (as opposed to zero close calls in Thailand) but now I know more about what to look for and also know I do need to take more care there.
If you go, I suggest you definately find a condo (there are plenty to be found rented by guys who rent to us), especialy if you will be there for a few weeks or more. More privacy, no hassles and the girls like it more.
I will keep going to both places. I like variety!
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I have lived in Brasil on and off since my late teens, and have gone to Thailand on and off for the past 8 years. Both countries are monger paradise. But the landscape of Brasil is much more exciting, astounding, and much more beatiful than Thailand by far. Also, there is nothing compared to the beautiful and passionate morenas in Brasil.

I combined both sex and tourism in both countries and Brasil score much higher. I have learned the basic Brasil Portuguese so I have a very good time catching amatures as well on a long stay. I have discovered many heavens on earth in Brasil.

I discovered the city of Floripa (Florianopolis) in the southern state of Santa Catarina since my teen years. Simply amazing with beautiful nature, with countless amazingly beautiful beaches in the city limits and also beautiful women. I always spend summer months from Nov to Feb in Floripa. Floripa is really for me heaven on earth. The living cost is also about the same as Thailand. The city and it's atmosphere should be one of the wonders of the world as well.

Also, there are some really nice beach towns on the coastal Sao Paulo. The Santos-Guaruja-Bertioga-Riviera Sao lourenco-Sao Vicente ect so called Litoral Sao Paulo is so beatiful with so many nice beach towns and packed with beatiful women in summer months. All only 1-2 hours from accessing to the grand metropolis of Sao Paulo.

Also, I have long stayed many times in the coastal Rio de Janeiro. Cabo Frio-Buzios-Angras dos Reis all so amazing nature wonders and beaches for great long stay, with Parati a nice day trip get away.

Also, there are many really beautiful beach towns on the eastern seaboard. I have stayed in Fortaleza, Porto Seguro, Aracaju, Natal, Vitoria, Maceio, Recife, ect ect, all really amazing beach cities with lots of night actions.

If anyone got tired of Thailand want to discover a new ground, I reccomend take a trip to Brasil and explore Floripa, Fortaleza, Litoral Sao Paulo and Litoral Rio, and also eastern coastal beach towns.

Another good thing is that no one is considered a foreigner no matter what you look like as long as you don't speak, so Brasil is very good for all people to blend in. Visa also no problem, can stay up to 180 days easily no visa required, then can make a visa run to the amazing Foz Iguacu (Iguacu Fall) walk to the Argentina or Paraguay side for sightseeing then back to Brasil for another half year. I will be going to Floripa in February and stay for the Carnival 2006 there with a side trip to Bahia for 2 weeks.
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While I love them both I'd have to say I prefer Thailand over Brazil, the primary issue being personal safety. In Thailand you can feel reasonably secure in knowing you will not be robbed or attacked if you mind your own business, take normal precautions, and stay away from known bad areas. In Brazil you need to be on guard at all times; much of the crime there is directed at tourists or locals with anything of value to steal. Not a deal breaker but something that tips the scales in favor of LOS for moi...
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The major differences are as follows:

The hustle is much more oppresive in Brazil. Not really the girls but the vendors, touts, beach kids, etc. Thailand is more relaxing.

The girls are much more agressive in Brazil. You will meet a girl who can continue to get you hard, without viagra, over and over again. They attack you in brazil. They are ready to eat you. In thailand they come out of the shower in a towel because they are 'shy'. Cute but maybe not what you are looking for.

Your money will definitely go further in thailand. I prefer thailand because it is much more laid back, and relaxing. People say the sex is better in Brazil, but I disagree, you just have to work harder to find chemistry in thailand due to cultural differences.

Either way you can't lose......
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Right.

There's NO other sexual experience in the world like a threesome with two HORNY brasilian putas.
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I totally agree....people talk about a certain unmentionable club in bangkok and sum it up as an 'experience'.....try a full day at a thermae and don't forget to come up for air.
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The terma is the single best invention in the world. The guy who started the first Terma deserves a Nobel Peace prize. I´m serious.

In Sao Paulo I almost always end-up in Bomboa. This place has exceptional vibes: great party atmosphere, great live music and DJs, great strip shows, great food (there's a sushi-bar AND a all-you-can-eat buffet), great service, great suites, great jacuzzis, saunas, etc., and tons (up to eighty on some days) of available, friendly and nasty TOP beauties dressed in lingerie. It's simply paradise for me.
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I went to Rio a few years back. Got mugged at knife point on the first day. Had to wait 8 days to get a flight out. Spent the time down by Copacabana but really didn't see many attractive ladies. Couldn't find any decent nightlife either! Flew back to Dubai and straight on to LOS where I was able to relax and enjoy myself.
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The action in Brazil is plentiful and the ladies beautiful, but P4P has a much sharper edge than in LOS. You have to be on your guard every second. Any Brazilian city is sort of like the dangerous parts of Camden or Newark or Jersey City, except the climate is better. A hell of a lot of people are waiting for you to get careless and if you do, you'll pay dearly for it.
If you can handle yourself well in physical confrontations (or at least look like you can) or have a buddy watching your back, you'll be OK.
But alone, and without any understanding of the local language and culture, you're much better off in LOS. No ladies, no matter how beautiful or energetic, are worth getting robbed, much less a knife in the gut.
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I've only been to Rio, about 10x, LOS about 10x, mostly in Pattya. Costwise, LOS is cheaper. Women in Rio are more passionate. Less crime in LOS. Between the two, LOS wins hands down -- if you are a punter that is.
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Hi mongers,
I thought I would put my 2 cents worth in. My first Mongering trip was to Thailand back in 2000. I loved it!! Since then, I have been to Brazil about 15 times, and LOS 5 times. I love them both, and here are the differences I see.
Brazil is closer for me. I live in NYC.
Thailand is cheaper. although 3 or 4 years ago the real was almost 4 to 1 to the dollar. now about 2 to 1.
The women are different. Yes.. the asians are much more timid and shy in general. You rarely get this with the brazilians. However I have had some great uninhibited sex in Thailand that match the brazilian standards.
Brazil has Termas, but Thailand has the Turkish baths and the fishbowls.
I love getting Thai/Oil massage. I get a 2 hour massage every day, and its not as available or cheap in Brazil.
Yes.. Brazil is more dangerous, and you have to be on guard, but if your street smart, you should be fine.
The beaches are great in Both places.
I Love brazil, and studied Portuguese for 2 years, and speak very well. I learned the culture, and like it more than thailand. I can relate better to the brazilians. Now that I speak some portuguese I spend alot of time meeting 'normal' girls, and that is where it gets really fun in Brazil. The 'programa' girls now are just a side note. In thailand, I stick mainly to the p4p.
All in all I love both places, but those are the differences that i see. Ill be arriving in Bangkok on December 2 .. If there are any mongers that want to get together next week for some beer and chasing. Let me know.