Hello i have been looking around on the web to see if there is greyhound racing in holland.

I have seen one called oaklane greyhounds nl.I cant find any info on if its still racing as i would take a trip there during my next holiday if there was greyhound racing in holland.

You Googled wrongly. possibly.

No, definitively ;-)

Check on 'Windhondenrennen in Nederland' - this should give you minimally a Dutch website with racing results and a Wikipedia article, giving 12 racing courses in NL and 3 in Flanders as well. Seems there are races, but on mainly amateur (duh, as if gambling does not exist in that universe) basis. This should be a decent start for you.

cheers,

Gaston.
(Greyhound = Windhond - that should do the trick)

Thanks for that m8 im just looking into things i could do in the downtime away from the girls and dog racing is one of my favourite hobbies.I will certainly have a look.

I recently found a betting shop in amsterdam that was more tote betting

Its a real shame whats happening to dog racing down my end of the uk with wimbeldon.

Hi Ams...I'm a big fan of dog racing too. A few guys i knew sold a dog to someone in Holland in the mid 90's ..I've just looked at the dogs form and it ran at Farmsum, Geldrop and believe it or not at a stadium in Amsterdam, it's last race there was 1999. If the stadium still runs i have no idea, but interesting stuff anyway.

hi ams here is the Europe part of the greyhound data website, I know that a lot of tracks only operate in Holland during the months of march to October. I was at the track in beerta once a dog I sold was running there in their Derby really different to racing in Ireland or the Uk. Anyway here is the link for tracks in mainland Europe http://greyhound-data.com/stadia.htm?land=eu&st=14010 .

thanks for all the help chaps

This is a cruel sport where dogs spend 95% of their time caged and away from human or dog contact. The dogs are frequently killed, sometimes in inhumane ways, for merely not adapting to racing as pups, or for slowing as they get older. If a dog stumbles and falls while running at nearly 40 mph in a pack they can be seriously injured for (their now remaining short) life or even killed.

Folks on this site do a lot of different things that some would find shocking, but I'm among the first to call for tolerance. What one chooses for one's self is a private matter.

But this is not a case of voluntary choice. These dogs have no choice, nor power over their situation. Tolerance of cruelty to innocent creatures for mere amusement is no virtue.

http://www.league.org.uk/our-campaigns/ ... und-racing

That's your opinion, and in my opinion it's totally misguided and totally incorrect, greyhounds absolutely love to chase, you will never see them happier than when they are racing...but i guess you've never experienced that first hand

there is negative views around greyhound racing greyhound welfare is a very big part of the sport.Most of these trainers put the dogs before there own care.I know the negatives in greyhound racing but thats a very small minority.

There has very recently been a greyhound trainer sent to jail because of the way he treated his dogs the sport isnt like this now.There is always haters around to certain sports.We all have our opions on this subject which i respect and understand.

there is a lot worse thing to hate in this world than greyhound racing when there are alot of very decent people in the sport.

"greyhounds absolutely love to chase, you will never see them happier than when they are racing"

Unfortunately they spend 95% of their time living in cages. And many are killed while still healthy because there are not enough homes to take them in when they retire.

I won't go on and on about this. I just think people should look into this and know what they are supporting.

What utter rubbish how many racing kennels have you actually visited, i can assure you that they do not live in cages, they live in kennels, these have to be meet specific standards and are inspected annually by a independent vet to make sure they are upto standard. You clearly have very little idea what you are talking about unfortunately.

This is no way for a dog bred to run to live. Perhaps there are some better ones out there, but no kennel enclosure is big enough for permanent residency.

I agree those kennels are nowhere big enough, I've been in lots of racing kennels and not seen anything like that, it simply wouldn't be allowed in the uk..where exactly are those pictures from and how many years ago where they taken because you definitely couldn't get away with that here. Incidentally i have owned racing greyhounds for the past ten years and i can assure you that the dogs are incredibly well looked after, get lots of daily excercise and are all rehomed as pets after their racing careers are over, i have 3 of my own at home and i would encourage anyone to have one of these lovely, gentle, loyal dogs as a pet as they truly are a lovely dog.

To class everyone involved in greyhound racing as cruel is quite ridiculous and misplaced the vast majority care deeply...unfortunately you will always get the odd one that gives everyone a bad name, the same can be said about all other pets unfortunately, i could easily post up a million and one cases of other pets being abused in one way or another along with some shocking photos...does this mean that nobody should be allowed to have pets?

In Alabama at VictoryLand dog track this is a very sad story where 23 greyhounds died when the air conditioning broke down.i could quite easly post links to greyhound kennels here in the uk and websites as to what goes on here but we will never change the view of neurosynth.

there are many worse things in life to hate like fox hunting hare coursing when a live hare is used.

I'd invite anyone to go to google image search and search on "greyhound kennel" and see for themselves.

I'm sure there are well meaning people, and that some of the kennels are bigger and cleaner than others.

But IMHO kennels should only be for temporary situations and not a permanent way of life.

Your right Ams its no good trying to educate the clueless and ignorant, its a bit like saying all prostitutes in Amsterdam are victims of human trafficking without ever actually going there and basing your assumptions on a few internet articles that have been written by an anti prostitution lobbyist. Tell me ..have you ever actually ever been anywhere near a greyhound or a greyhound kennel or is your knowledge ( i use the term very loosely) based on pictures posted by anti racing activists. By the way greyhounds also flourish in a kenneled environment but im sure with your great knowledge of the breed you would know that already.

I've already welcomed people to do their own research. You are certainly welcome to post pictures of these utopic kennels you refer to.

Dogs have been bred to be highly socialized and in need of contact and interaction. Living their lives permanently restricted to a kennel does not meet those needs. This is true for all dogs, and greyhounds are no exception. Kennels should only be a temporary situation.

Who says they don't get socialisation and human interaction? Is that more pearls of wisdom from someone who has never been to a kennel in his life??

OK, so I watched all 3 videos. Thanks for posting them.

My impression is that if these are typical situations racing dogs in the UK have a better life than those in the US.

The indoor pens still strike me as being small...about 2 by 3 dog lengths if that. So it depends one how much time they are in those. It's good though that they are kept in pairs.

In the last video I noticed some large fenced in dog runs. If they can be in those a significant amount of time per day that would be good. But if they're in the 2x3 pens 23 hours a day, that strikes me as being too much. You can tell they don't want to be in the pens by the way they act when the doors are opened.

In any case I'm glad the folks in the UK are trying hard to make things better for the dogs than they are here in the US. The US approach seems too industrial and some significant fraction of the dogs are put down if they aren't fast enough or they are too old or they get sick.