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Re: Who the fuck is Alice then?
Posted: 2006-09-05, 6:29 pm
Yooroo Monger
Posts: 79
Location: LTU Flight 1530 Seat 28D
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Well I'm pretty certain Alicia wasn't among them as I went on a "who you gonna believe" debate in Spanish with her and she was firmly in the viper's side. Despite her significant attributes, rational thought does not seem to be among them. Shame...
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Re: Who the fuck is Alice then?
Posted: 2006-09-05, 9:51 pm
chivaz
Posts: 418
Location: Europe
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Hey guys,
I for one am not visiting the club until they have things straightened out properly. If management of the club is not taking care of the Alice problem, I think I will stay away from World for a while.
Chivaz (who thinks there is enough clubs around)
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Re: Who the fuck is Alice then?
Posted: 2006-09-06, 1:53 am
Dedalus
Power Kat XXX
Posts: 672
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Hey Guys,
I told the lady at the desk on Sunday that alice's actions forced me into a temporary "Hausverbot" since it makes no sense for me to visit a club, even one of my favorites, if there are a few girls pointing me out as a non-paying crazy man. Even if alice is banned, the damage to me is done. I am sure that I would have no problems with Anita, Daniela, Banne, Olga, Alexandra, and many others, but it was not comfortable for me last Sunday. I did a session with a girl last Sunday whose name I will not mention. As we were going down the stairs Anna-Marie (who I have never been with but have always smiled at and been courteous to) was following us with a guest. The girl I was with later told me that AM asked her why she would go to a room with a crazy man. I had been with the girl before so she knew that this was BS, but she told me that alice HAD gone around to everyone with vitriol about me.
alice is a beast and I am glad that she is gone. I will also admit that I would have liked a little more support from the lady at the front desk on the night that alice tooled me out of an extra 50, but I can forgive that. I actually believe that the management SHOULD support the girls as there are a number of male guests who can be crappy to the ladies. I've been going there since they opened and they know that I don't have truck with any of that bad behavior.
Gents, the last thing that I want is to call for a boycott on World. It is a good club and they do most things pretty darn well. I get along with the service personnel at all of the clubs, but I find Franzi, Ruth, Patricia and the others to be wonderful and they always make me feel like World is a home away from home.
This was a bad incident and alice is a blight on what I think is an otherwise great club. I think that the management knows this and has taken steps. World is a club that, while dealing with a decent amount of tourist traffic, is mostly geared toward regulars. I am one of those and I am sure that they appreciate this and want my business as well as that of every other well-mannered regular. I will have to keep GT and Palace on my visit list for a while until things cool down a bit but I will be back, and soon I hope.
Cheers,
Dedalus, exiled but not excommunicated
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Re: Who the fuck is Alice then?
Posted: 2006-09-06, 4:33 am
chivaz
Posts: 418
Location: Europe
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"I think that the management knows this and has taken steps"
Lets hope they do not make the mistake of letting her back in. I agree it is a well run club and as such they should know by now.
Chivaz
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One bad Apple
Posted: 2006-09-06, 6:01 am
ST
Power Kat XXX
Posts: 328
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"I told the lady at the desk on Sunday that alice's actions forced me into a temporary "Hausverbot" since it makes no sense for me to visit a club, even one of my favorites, if there are a few girls pointing me out as a non-paying crazy man. Even if alice is banned, the damage to me is done."
Dedalus,
The old addage: One bad apple spoils the whole barrel?
Well, don't forget that if this Alice is as crazy as you claim --and I have no reason to doubt your claim, as you are a man of solid judgement-- then it is also probably the case that many, many of the girls there realise she is also a bad apple and thus her accusations about you and/or other male guests might not really be taken so seriously by alot of girls. In fact, if she starts ranting and raving about you, maybe that would actually raise your status amongst some girls.
Just consider that a rotten apple does stand out, and alot of the good apples sharing the same barrel might catch her stench and want her gone just as much as you do...
ST
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Re: One bad Apple
Posted: 2006-09-06, 9:32 am
Shiatsu and Cordelia
Posts: 94
Location: UK
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Dedalus
Cordelia has asked me to write to you. She says it will all blow over very quickly, and as the club is aware of Alice's bad press maybe she won't come back. Fred was extremely sensible to e-mail the club about her. Chivaz also seems to know something behind the scenes if I read his post rightly
Alicia, after a day being horrid to Cordelia, is now trying her best (within her limited social skills - no insult intended) to be nice - that shows how quickly it all blows over.
A point from me - I know what it is like to be conspicuous in a club and for some girls to point the finger. There was a time when some girls were foul to me because they thought I was a pimp!!. I decided not to let it get to me - and within a very very short time they realised that they were wrong - especially when they saw me getting on well with some other girls
Shiatsu
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She doth protest too much
Posted: 2006-09-06, 8:55 pm
MikeDeHavilland
Supporting Member
Posts: 635
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Quite right ST.
These incidents are very upsetting. I remember. But its also nice to see Dedalus getting some calm heaaded balanced advice from Shiatsu, Cordelia, yourself and others.
As you quite rightly make the point, lots of Girls know Ded, and the love of money will always outway the fear of "crazy man" Ded, so it will blow over. After all, if she rants and raves too much, then its HER that looks bad. Hence, "She doth protest too much" excuse my misquotation of the bard.
Now, i don't want to perpetuate this and give this girl more publicity than it deserves, but she wasn't the first and certainly won't be the last.
Talk of "Trash" and "Evil" is the sort of thing you reserve for people who kill children or guide planes into buildings. This Woman, nasty and greedy though she may be, is still a human being.
The main thing is, people have realised what she is, she has stopped working for now, and nobody tried to say "I went with her and she was great" just to annoy and confuse. (See Sabrina post earlier).
Time to move on, and Deadelus, I shall also email Christian (the Hausmaester and webmaster) just to ensure the girl is discouraged from returning as I also agree, we don't want this sort of girl working at our favourite place.
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Re: She doth protest too much
Posted: 2006-09-07, 1:52 am
Dedalus
Power Kat XXX
Posts: 672
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"This Woman, nasty and greedy though she may be, is still a human being."
True, but I have known a few humans in my lifetime who were barely worthy of the distinction, as I am sure we all have. Being human does not excuse one from the responsibility of acting like it every now and then.
I will not go into details as to the substance of alice's verbose rantings over a 4 day period, but in that time I heard hatred, racism, cruelty, arrogance, avarice and hypocrisy. Those who were with me can confirm, if not all, at least most of these.
But hey, I am ready to move on.
Long time, no see, Mike. When is the next journey to this fair playground?
Cheers,
Dedalus, movin' on up!
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Re: She doth protest too much
Posted: 2006-09-07, 12:43 pm
Yooroo Monger
Posts: 79
Location: LTU Flight 1530 Seat 28D
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Dedalus wrote: I will not go into details as to the substance of alice's verbose rantings over a 4 day period, but in that time I heard hatred, racism, cruelty, arrogance, avarice and hypocrisy. Those who were with me can confirm, if not all, at least most of these.
I can confirm.
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