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Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-01-18, 4:17 am

SeanPenny
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I will be in Amsterdam and Utrecht for three days and plan on having at least two encounters during that time.

My budget is ~250 euro/hr. Preferably young blonde with a perfect ass. I'd pay extra for Greek.

I'd really like to use or go to a reputable place that is clear about what they offer. I searched but am finding outdated information.

Am I better off going to a Privehuis and just choosing from the lineup that day? Or is it better to schedule an appointment with an escort? I can't find reviews for Hunters Escort Service (huntersescortsamsterdam) but it looks promising. I am thinking of scheduling an outcall through them. Please let me know what you think. Thank you
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-01-18, 2:31 pm

rglass
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Go with Society Service or Courtesan Club. You will not be disappointed and it is worth stretching your budget for a sure thing.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-01-18, 8:42 pm

grimnul Power Kat
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I can second Society Service. I use them regularly and I've never been disappointed.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-01-19, 2:43 am

SeanPenny
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Thanks for your replies. I do appreciate Society Service, and would be happy to use them. However, I would be a lot happier if I didn't have to spend 700 euro in one go... And is that an all-inclusive fee? It says any escort may have surcharges on top of the 700 such as for couples service. While I do not want that, I am wondering if I am going to get pushed to pay extra for specific positions or whatever else. Have any advise here? I also searched for the society service girl (Rose) that I like best, and saw disappointing reviews which led me to believe society service may not totally be a "sure thing" like you say it is. I hope that does not come off as offensive. I appreciate you posting and am just sharing my findings.

Are there any other options for reputable places that aren't so much money? Like hunters escort service, asmara, bestamsterdamescort, or any independent girls? I don't really care if its incall/outcall, privehuis, sexclub, window girl, as long as it's a reputable provider that actually looks like what they advertise themselves as, and does what they say they'll do for the agreed price. As someone new to the scene, am I asking for too much? Is it always going to be somewhat of a gamble? I could be completely ignorant and have as much information as anyone else has right now.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-01-19, 3:42 am

grimnul Power Kat
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I took a look at Hunters. It's sketchy as fuck. No license number displayed and many of the girls in their gallery are obviously fake. This girl: https://www.huntersescortsamsterdam.com ... erdam/bibi is clearly American pornstar Brtiney Beth/Bibi Jones, for example. 100% fake profile.

Also, their prices seem very off. They present themselves as a high class escort service, but then prices that are about half what Society Service and other high end agencies charge? I don't think so.

I wouldn't book with them. Very, very suspect.

Also, yes, Society Service's fees are all-inclusive. If your session is €700, you pay €700. Couples rates are more expensive, obviously.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-01-19, 4:19 am

SeanPenny
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Ha! Nice eye on Bibi. Strange that none of the four pictures gave me any results on tineye reverse image search... Have you had any luck with girls through kinkynl?
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-01-19, 4:32 am

grimnul Power Kat
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Haven't really used kinky.nl. I tend to prefer the higher class girls if I'm getting an escort. The kinds of girls I usually see if I look on kinky I could really just walk over to De Wallen to get. If I'm getting an escort, I want it to be an experience, not just a little sex.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-01-24, 2:22 am

SeanPenny
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Just updating for you and anyone else that may find this page. Hunters Escort Service is a scam. I was able to confirm this after trying to find the missing license number. I also was able to confirm all the girls on their site are either professional models or pornstars, all of which show no evidence of being escorts or even living in Amsterdam. I'd say that's enough to confirm bullshit.

Thanks for helping me learn this lesson not the hard way!
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-01-24, 5:44 am

grimnul Power Kat
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Yeah, I knew they were crooked. All the reputable high-end agencies use the same price structure. Society Service, Courtesan Club, Dreams and Desires, etc. Same prices. Hell, even Dita's using the same price structure now. I'd be very wary of any agency passing itself off as high-end that doesn't have similar prices.

At least now you have a better idea what to look for in your research. Prices, license number, if the girls' pictures look suspicious, run them through image search, Google reviews for the agency and/or for the individual girls, etc. Definitely good we caught that one before you made a booking with them!
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-08, 2:45 am

TheTraveller
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Hi SeanPenny .... After having read the replies from other members I realised none of them had actually provided you with information that would in fact help you to solve your problem, that being getting a girl for 250 per hour.

Firstly let me say things were not always like this (in Amsterdam) it started many years ago when a few agency's from the states came over and started using fake pictures. After their initial success other agencies soon followed and before long all of them were doing it.

So here are some real facts from someone who knows the industry very well:

1. All agencies use fake pictures ... licensed or not.
2. Many "fake agencies" are in fact owned by licensed agencies - improved online exposure
3. Licensed agencies often use pictures of real girls who haven't worked their for years ... I guess that's fake then
4. Licensed agencies use outdated pictures taken years ago ... some of the girls still look good though :)
5. There is a relatively small number of escorts which service Amsterdam ... looking at the websites you might think there are thousands ... this is in fact not the case. Escorts work for multiple agencies, which means both "Fake" and "Licensed" agencies use the same girls. If you like me have ordered hundreds of escorts in Amsterdam you start to see the overlap very quickly.
6. Agencies having a license does not stop fake pictures or bad practices ... it's designed to stop under aged girls and sex trading. It's not governing services they offer or how they operate as you might expect.

Why do agencies use fake pictures ?

1. Consider an agency has 2 bombshells and 8 ok girls ... what do you think will happen. Correct, everyone will order the hot girls and the others will stay free ... bad for business ... agencies won't survive.

2. Why aren't there more bombshells? because most men don't want to pay 700 per hour ... so why would a hot escort work here for that money when the can go to Dubai and make a fortune. You pay for what you get.

3. Agencies will tell you that most men are fixated on pictures when in fact a great night with an escort really doesn't come down to the perfect airbrushed picture. Her skills, personality, conversation, and connection to you are far more important. A little fact ... 98% or men ordering a fake escort do not refuse the girl when they are standing in front of them. 25% will reorder the fake girl --- What does that tell you.

4. 70% percent of bookings are made with the expectation the girl can be sent to them now (maximum 60 minutes) This expectation promotes fake pictures ... to meet such demands ... but does not make it excusable.

Facts about Prices and your budget:

1. All prices from all agency types (Licensed or Not) are for a basic service and do not include extra's (GFE, OWC, A-Level, etc.)
- Sex and oral sex with a condom
2. Escorts define what extra's cost as this is their money and not payable to an agency
- Escorts will vary their prices depending on the customer (look like you have money .. you'll pay more)
- Having a good knowledge of prices will save you a fortune
3. Typical Prices at Present
- OWC : 100 euros
- GFE : 50 euros
- Massage when ordered as extra with escort service : 50 euros
- A-Level : 100 euros
4. Your location is very important ... if you are more than 30km away from Amsterdam center then you will have to take multiple hours

How to get the best out of any Agency

1. Tell them what you are looking for ... I want slim girl, young, big boobs and blonde hair. Someone who is fun and will have a party with me.

2. Let them know what extra services you want ... I want OWC and GFE ... how much will that cost me. Can you please inform the girl you this price agreement.

3. Ask them when their best girls are available ... because you are flexible with time.

4. Book early (for later) because the best looking girls get first pickings ... meaning you get the girls which don't take refuses and that means good looking.
- Certain services are not so popular or rather not many girls perform them, so early bookings are essential

5. Ordering a girl during peek hours will often result in a professional but quick service. Later hours 02:00 - 04:00 girls are not expecting more work so they are aiming to extend the hours and ultimately in many cases try and be more charming ... so long as you are not in some drunk, drugged up state.

Now For the Truth

SeanPenny ... I know you think you have been helped here today but the truth is you really haven't ... such a swooping statement needs to be backed up [agreed]

So here is some proof:

Members here suggested Dreams and Desires as a reputable agency ... let's see ... you judge.

1. I often use a website called waybackmachine ... it records all websites in the world on a periodic basis. You can then go and see what websites looked like in the past. It's slow loading but very useful.

2. Using Wayback I chose the date (7 February 2012) then I chose a random girl from there website as it was in 2012- her name was Sarena and she is 19 and studying to be a teacher.
>> 19 is illegal in Holland and is prosecutable by law
>> No license displayed on website ... interesting

3. Using Wayback I chose another date 20 February 2013 .... guess what Sarena is still working there and she is still 19 and her pictures are the same. My interest is peeked ... how do they stop the aging of these girls.

4. Using Wayback I chose yet another date 31 March 2014 ... holy cow ... this girl is still there and guess what she is still 19 and hasn't got a day older. Another immediate question was it says she is still studying to be a teacher ... wow how many years does it take to become a teacher ... maybe she needs to quit escorting, I think it's compromising her studies.


Jokes aside I thinking I've proven my point ... even this "Licensed" and respected agency has been playing the game for at least 5 years and so are the others ... believe this. But they were smart, 1. they hide the faces, 2. made the prices high (must be real) and 3. finally got a license. They provided fake comments and a host of other details which made them better at the game than the others.

So the question is .... do you trust a website which is better at deception than one that isn't. Ironically is this form the recommended website was in fact worse than the accused website ... who knew ... it makes you think.

But what upsets me is people claiming they have used these agencies when in fact they haven't or rather they were fooled like the rest ... to the point they didn't even know. Which raises an interesting question ... does this all really even matter.
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There is nothing wrong with Dreams and Desire or Hunters or any other agency as they are all the same. I don't want to knock any one because I have personally used many of them and had a great time. What I can tell you is that pictures play a small role in the big picture :) Example: When I order from Divas in London, pictures are "Real" but so photoshopped that it's disappointing and double the price. Then when in Bucharest pictures are fake but girls are amazing (genetics I think) but super cheap. Dubai, real picture and accurate but 10 times the prices, I could have a harem of Romanian girls for their prices.

I am now in the fortunate position that I can book by their real names and I don't need to go to their websites. I know what the girls look like and have my favorites.

Best advice I can give is this ... find an agency that is willing listen to what you need ... this is what is really important. If they are rude, pushy or rushed then call another agency. Good service starts at the first call.

SeanPenny: I hope you are more informed now and Good luck. Try and remember you are here to have fun. Sometimes these little surprise in life can be even better than some calculated guaranteed process. Some of the best escorts I know have never shown their real picture and they are gorgeous and work for the "Fake" sites.

I apologize to anyone that I might have offended by exposing Dreams and Desires (recommended by user) Hopefully now we all realise the truth and manage things differently.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-08, 3:09 am

grimnul Power Kat
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I'm not sure I agree with all of that. Every girl I've seen from Society Service was fairly accurate to the pictures and didn't charge for extras. If their profile said they offered anal sex, for example, it was included at no extra cost.

To say that all agencies use fake pictures and charge extra for extra services simply doesn't jive with my experiences. Maybe this is the case for "budget" agencies, but it certainly hasn't been the case for me with SS.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-08, 4:45 am

bobx
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There are a lot of very good reviews on some the girls @ http://www.golden-angels.nl and they are exactly in your price range. I haven't used them myself, but plan to on my next visit.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-08, 4:50 am

TheTraveller
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I think the point I'm trying to make is that most of the agencies even the ones you think are above board are in fact playing the game too - some better than others. I don't want to sit ripping agencies apart to prove this point, I think that's already been done.

Instead I wanted to enlighten SeanPenny, hopefully to change the way he's thinking to not make this all about pictures. Grimnul you sound like a man who has had his fair share of escorts. Could we not agree that the defining factor to an excellent night is not ultimately how they look but so many other factors.

I do have one question (x3) to the group which I'm curious about. The websites that were suggested all the girls have their faces blurred out. So how do you know that you are getting the correct girl? Do the faces not matter? And if all other agencies blurred their girls faces out would this then make them equal.



Dear escort agencies ... please blur your escorts faces out ... this way we can all feel we got the girl of our dreams :) not to mention have no possible way to dispute the legitimacy of the pictures.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-08, 5:22 am

grimnul Power Kat
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Oh, no, I certainly agree that a good session is way more than just the girl's appearance. I had a session not too long ago with a girl who was stunning and very nice, but we just didn't really click sexually, and she seemed to have a particular talent for triggering my anxiety issues, which did not make things easy. I've also had absolutely incredible sessions with women who weren't incredible looking. I've always said, I'd rather have 10/10 sex with a 6 than 6/10 sex with a 10. My point was simply that not ALL agencies use fake pictures.

As for blurred faces, I have a member account with Society Service so I can see the full pictures with the faces unblurred. Even then, just looking at the body, hair, etc. you can get a decent idea of what a girl will look like. Like, if the profile lists the girl at 5'8, slim, Caucasian, blue eyes and blonde hair, and the girl who shows up is brunette, black, 5'0, and chubby, you can probably tell something's up. I do understand the necessity for blurred faces in some cases. Most of the girls on Society Service are locals, it could be problematic for them if someone is able to identify them.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-08, 2:58 pm

rglass
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TheTraveller wrote:

1. All agencies use fake pictures ... licensed or not.

4. Licensed agencies use outdated pictures taken years ago ... some of the girls still look good though :)



I think your comment in No. 1 hurts your credibility with the rest of your post. Have you used Society Service? Courtesan Club? If so, please tell us how your experiences did not match up to the advertising. Further, use your Wayback magic and show how those websites have played games. I am not saying it is impossible, but you are stating defamatory conclusions without evidence. I am not saying you cant show malfeasance, but that blanket statement is not sufficient.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-08, 5:34 pm

TheTraveller
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Hi Rglass,

I think my post was not taken in the spirit intended. Nevertheless I will rewrite my informal quick points to something more accurate ... for fairness.

An overwhelming number of agencies (+90%) found through Google search misrepresent their services. Misrepresentation comes in the form of:

> Pictures are in some cases fake (High)
> Pictures are in some cases inaccurate (High)
> Real pictures are often mixed with fake pictures (High)
> Real pictures of escorts which no longer work at the agency (Medium)
> Pictures are often outdated by a significant amount of time (High)
> Pictures are often disguised and thus used inappropriately

I really didn't want to start a flame war as I hate this type of behavior online. As a result I will keep my opinions to a minimum and partake as a passive reader. Maybe those of you that have seen and experienced what I have will come forward and support what I'm saying and possibly provide advice to members like SeanPenny which will aid him in his pursuit for sexual pleasure.

I bow out gracefully
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-08, 5:40 pm

rglass
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I respect your opinion and found your post really helpful. I just think that Amsterdam has a couple of really good agencies and they shouldnt be painted with the same brush. That is all.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-08, 8:02 pm

grimnul Power Kat
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I do agree that most escort services are guilty of those things to a degree, but some a certainly moreso than others. Society Services blurs their girl's faces, though they do so for security and privacy reasons, and you're able to see unblurred pictures if you're a member in good standing. They also may use older pics, though I've seen some girls pics be updated even within just the past couple years. The only thing I know for a fact that they exaggerate is the girls' age, and even then, generally only by a few years.

That's a far cry from a site that posts completely fake pictures (pornstars or models), misrepresents their product entirely, lists prices that are far off from what you'll actually wind up paying, and may or may not be using trafficked girls due to a lack of licensing. There are levels. One is very slightly dishonest, one is completely dishonest.

All I'm saying is that your posts seem to imply that all of these agencies do the exact same things and that it doesn't matter which ones you use, and that, to me, is simply not true. There are some that are clearly better than others. You do bring up some good points, and I agree that it is best to find an agency that is willing to work with you to find a date for you that will suit your needs, rather than one that just pushes whatever girl on you. I think you just need to be careful with lumping all the agencies together as some are superior to others.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-14, 8:38 pm

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Since these were mentioned but not addressed yet:

Asmara - Don't bother. Complete ripoff. Pictures on the website are all completely fake, the place is a mess, the girls don't give a shit, etc.

Kinky.nl - Varies wildly depending on provider. Some great, some mediocre. I haven't encountered any rip-offs yet, but I try to be careful in the choices I make.

I've been tempted by escort agencies; I'd probably try it if it were a sure-fire thing, but I'm not about to risk €700 or more, and glowing reports from others is no guarantee of a worthwhile experience. For example, Dita gets mentioned a lot on this forum, and yes she is amazing, but I've visited her myself and she's certainly not €700 amazing to me.

Personally, I think there are enough good prives around that the risks and costs of escort agencies isn't necessary. Amsterdam has Park 118. Outside of Amsterdam is even better; there are prives with rates as low as €100 an hour including DFK, DATY and GFE (Anal and BBBJ still usually cost extra though). Most of the best experiences I've had have been at prives.
Re: Amsterdam/Utrecht Privehuis or Escort Service
Posted: 2017-02-16, 10:18 pm

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jimmy_nova wrote:
Since these were mentioned but not addressed yet:

Asmara - Don't bother. Complete ripoff. Pictures on the website are all completely fake, the place is a mess, the girls don't give a shit, etc.

Kinky.nl - Varies wildly depending on provider. Some great, some mediocre. I haven't encountered any rip-offs yet, but I try to be careful in the choices I make.

I've been tempted by escort agencies; I'd probably try it if it were a sure-fire thing, but I'm not about to risk €700 or more, and glowing reports from others is no guarantee of a worthwhile experience. For example, Dita gets mentioned a lot on this forum, and yes she is amazing, but I've visited her myself and she's certainly not €700 amazing to me.

Personally, I think there are enough good prives around that the risks and costs of escort agencies isn't necessary. Amsterdam has Park 118. Outside of Amsterdam is even better; there are prives with rates as low as €100 an hour including DFK, DATY and GFE (Anal and BBBJ still usually cost extra though). Most of the best experiences I've had have been at prives.


Which non-Amsterdam prives would you recommend Jimmy?

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