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A few questions from someone who has never used escort services
Posted: 2017-02-08, 8:12 pm

felix203
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I've never used escort services before, but now planning to visit either Amsterdam or some other European city where escort services are legal. A few (silly) noob questions that I'd hope you could help me with.

Note: I'm only interested in "high class" escorts, so these questions are about those service providers.

* If the girl comes to a hotel where I'm staying, is she typically accompanied by a body guard, you know, someone who looks after her? Do I need to be worried about my own safety in this case?

* Two hours seems to be a minimum length for an appointment, and I assume it starts with a bit of chit chat, perhaps a glass of wine. How long/short is it appropriate to keep up friendly chit chat before moving to the bedroom? 15 minutes? 30 minutes?

* I assume that high class escorts take good care of themselves. However, if they sleep with dozens of men every month, it is almost a certainty that they will carry the herpes virus or some other STD that transmits through skin contact (that is, a condom does not protect against herpes, for example). What's your take on this?

* How many clients do high class escorts (those who charge for example 700-1000 euros for two hours) go through in a day? I mean, if I book a two hour appointment, is it likely that she has just a moment ago been with another guy? Or do high class escorts only see a few guys per week?

* Escort services are legal in the Netherlands and also in Germany, right? Does this mean that if something were to happen, for example, if the escort stole something from me, I could call the police and tell them that I was with an escort without any trouble?

Well, that's quite a few questions :D I'd very much appreciate even if you only answered one or two of these, or share your own personal story or viewpoint on these matters. Thanks!
Re: A few questions from someone who has never used escort services
Posted: 2017-02-08, 9:08 pm

grimnul Power Kat
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1. No body guards. She'll call the agency when she arrives to say she's there safe and has been paid and everything is ok. She'll call again when she leaves.

2. Just go with the flow. Have a drink or two,nchat, see how things are going. Usually, she'll wind up politely guiding you into bed if you're wasting too much time.

3, 4, and 5: yes, it's legal. No, you won't likely get a disease. I've been doing this for years and I'm clean as whistle. Never had a problem once. Keep in mind, reputation is everything in this business. You're here, so you know there are communities for this stuff. If a girl/agency is giving people diseases or stealing from them, they're not going to get much business. These high-end girls, they can make a lot of money, if they get a disease and can't work, that's a lot of lost income. They will make you wear a condom. It isn't for your safety, it's for theirs. Also, many very high-end girls only see one or two clients a week. Maybe even less.
Re: A few questions from someone who has never used escort services
Posted: 2017-02-08, 10:24 pm

BlutoBlutarsky Admin
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You (OP) didn't ask about this, but the most important advice I can give: Google images and tineye.com are your friend. Any time you're considering a girl you find on some escort site, do a reverse image search on any photos of her. You may be surprised at the result.

Also, legitimate (licensed) escort agencies in the Netherlands tend to include a license number on their websites (usually in the footer somewhere), which will look something like: ASD:01-2345X
If you don't see it, I suggest moving on. This advice doesn't really apply if you're not dealing with an agency, of course.

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Re: A few questions from someone who has never used escort services
Posted: 2017-02-08, 11:01 pm

grimnul Power Kat
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Also some good advice there. We've had two threads in the past month or so where people were asking if a site was legit and the pictures used on the site all turned out to be pornstars or professional models.
Re: A few questions from someone who has never used escort services
Posted: 2017-02-08, 11:02 pm

felix203
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Thanks for the advice!

I know the following agency is in Germany (and this is a site for Amsterdam mainly), but what do you think about Venus Escorts (I can't post a link, but you can google it). It has to be legit, right?

A couple more beginner questions:
* Many of these high class agencies ask that the client provide his REAL name when booking the girl. Is this a must, and should one comply (or do you usually give out fake names)? Is it possible to get in trouble by giving them your personal details?
* Many also prefer that you pay in advance by bank transfer or credit card - is this recommended, or should one always pay by cash?
Re: A few questions from someone who has never used escort services
Posted: 2017-02-09, 12:19 am

grimnul Power Kat
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I always pay cash, never had a problem.

I use my real name, personally. If it's with a legitimate agency, I don't see an issue with it. I know the girls prefer it. I've been told by the girls before that they like to know their client's real names because it lets them know if it's someone who may know them, which could cause trouble for them.
Re: A few questions from someone who has never used escort services
Posted: 2017-02-09, 5:29 pm

rglass
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Quote:
Note: I'm only interested in "high class" escorts, so these questions are about those service providers.


High end is the only way to go. I recently experienced four independents in the US of A and had four very different experiences. None of them compared to the experience with Society Service. It is less rushed, more professional and just a better experience. This may not be germane to your question, but the independent girls are such a crap shoot.

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* If the girl comes to a hotel where I'm staying, is she typically accompanied by a body guard, you know, someone who looks after her? Do I need to be worried about my own safety in this case?


To be clear, a bodyguard is a pimp and you want nothing to do with that…ever. If you see a “friend” or “driver”, give the girl $100 and say something came up and get out of there. Safety is everything. Trust your judgment at all times. From a previous post of mine:

rglass wrote:
My thought process has always been, whether high end escort, window girl, prostitute, hooker, whore, etc., I certainly have more to lose than she does. Probably by a long shot. Therefore, I never enter into any disputes. If there is a miscommunication, it is always going to be my bad. If they demand more money for services performed or negotiated, they get it. No questions asked. I never get annoyed or hostile. I never give them any reason to get pissed. I have only ever been in one bad situation, and my whole goal was to get it done with, get her out and hopefully she would forget I exist the moment she left the room. Mission accomplished.

I can always make more money. However, coming back from the actions of a scorned working girl would be a lot more difficult.


Grimnul is correct regarding how Society Service does it. I have been told, if the calls are not made, police will come flying through that door, so don’t let her lose track of time…

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* Two hours seems to be a minimum length for an appointment, and I assume it starts with a bit of chit chat, perhaps a glass of wine. How long/short is it appropriate to keep up friendly chit chat before moving to the bedroom? 15 minutes? 30 minutes?


Two hours is plenty of time with an independent, but I find it rushed with a high class Dutch girl. I enjoy talking to them and taking my time. I brought over some snacks and a bottle of whiskey and we talked about travelling and she had a million questions about then Candidate Trump. It made no sense to her how we could take that guy seriously. Little did I know… Point is, if you are looking for a quick bang, go to a window. They do it well. This is more like a proper date and I enjoy that experience. I have two sessions booked for next week and scheduled 4 hours for each.

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* I assume that high class escorts take good care of themselves. However, if they sleep with dozens of men every month, it is almost a certainty that they will carry the herpes virus or some other STD that transmits through skin contact (that is, a condom does not protect against herpes, for example). What's your take on this?


This is a risk. No way around it. So is driving in a car or crossing the street. Everyone has to decide what risks are tolerable in their life under their circumstances. I have spent countless time researching this issue and feel pretty comfortable with the odds. However, I do not participate in BBFS so that mitigates some of the risk. I had a window girl put a paper towel over my pelvic region once. That wasn’t the most pleasant experience, but you could request it if it makes you feel better.

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* How many clients do high class escorts (those who charge for example 700-1000 euros for two hours) go through in a day? I mean, if I book a two hour appointment, is it likely that she has just a moment ago been with another guy? Or do high class escorts only see a few guys per week?


Independent girls could rack up 4-5 a day, 5-6 times a week. A high end girl may be once or twice a week. One girl I met told me it was maybe once a month. She could be full of shit, but she brought it up, I didn’t ask (don’t ask, makes you sound like an ass). She said she liked the excitement of it and the extra money.

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* Escort services are legal in the Netherlands and also in Germany, right? Does this mean that if something were to happen, for example, if the escort stole something from me, I could call the police and tell them that I was with an escort without any trouble?


There should be nothing to steal. Take an ID, cell phone (preferably your hobby phone) and the amount of money you are going to spend. Stealing should not be an issue. If it is outcall, put everything of value in the safe.

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Many of these high class agencies ask that the client provide his REAL name when booking the girl. Is this a must, and should one comply (or do you usually give out fake names)? Is it possible to get in trouble by giving them your personal details?


I send them a link to my work website bio. That has always gotten me through the screening. I own the company, so I am not terribly worried about being outed. If they wanted to fuck up my shit, I guess they could, but I don’t see what is in it for them. If you pay and treat the girls respectfully, all is good.

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Many also prefer that you pay in advance by bank transfer or credit card - is this recommended, or should one always pay by cash?


If the agency is reputable, bank transfer is fine. I have done it, mostly to avoid carrying a lot of cash while travelling international. I think the first time they had me put a small deposit through bank transfer and the rest in cash. YMMV.
Re: A few questions from someone who has never used escort services
Posted: 2017-02-09, 8:03 pm

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I see your questions are pretty much answered so mine will come as no surprise. Here's more about my experience with high end escortservice in The Netherlands (I've used services from all over the world):

Legal and reputation
Yes it's legal and the escortservices in The Netherlands are the most professional and trustworthy I've seen anywhere in the world. They run their business like any other and the level of professionalism has impressed me several times. There are several great agencies around. Find an escortservice that lists their permit number and chamber of commerce number. It should be listed on their website. You can google the permit number, some page from a municipality should come up. You can check the chamber of commerce number on kvk.nl. It's in Dutch but there's only one search field, just enter the number there and see what comes up. Do not book with an escortservice that does not list those details, or nothing turns up when searching with them. I also never book with the newer agencies. I always assume if the've been around for a decade, they must be doing something right.

Safety
No high class escort will come up with a driver or bodyguard. Her agency will have checked you out beforehand. For example; they usually call the front desk and ask to be connected to your room and require checkin ahead of the booking. There's no point in using a fake name. It makes you sound untrustworthy and they will decline you as a client. The girls indeed checkin with their agency upon arrival and I have also heard the "police will storm the room if I don't let them know I'm okay". These girls are under strict instructions what to be aware of in terms of safety. So make sure you look like a decent guy when she arrives. I have once opened the door in a robe, during one of my first times, which was to show her I was freshly showered. She told me "call my agency when you are ready and dressed to receive me" and headed for the bar for a drink... I am pretty sure they'll also decline the booking if your room is a mess and you didn't make your bed.

STD
Keep in mind the escort needs a healthy body to make money. She'll take good care of it and make sure she keeps things safe. She'll know way more about safe sex than the average (non-escort) girl does, and like said before, does not run from one booking to another. I've heard the "once or twice a week" thing before. Could be just to make them sound more exclusive, but I liked the sound of it anyway. Check the websites and conditions of several escortservices. They will all state the escort will decline you as a client if you have any signs of a coldsore, pimple near your privates, etc.

Duration
If I've never seen a girl before, I usually start with 2 hours so I am not committed to a long booking if there's no chemistry. Almost all better agencies allow you to extend within the first (half) hour at their discounted rate before the full rate starts to apply. Take this time to figure out where you want things to go. If I don't hit it off with the escort, I'll make sure we are at least showering together after 30 to 45 minutes or so and she will leave after 2 to 3 hours. If I do hit it off, I usually texted to a longer overnight booking. But that's my personal preference. I like the wining & dining part as well.

Payment
In The Netherlands, no agency has ever demanded a prepayment from me. Just make sure to provide your room number well in advance so they can check you're really there (that's at least what I think is the call in your room about...). I've only provided prepayments for international bookings. I mostly book at Society Service as well (can highly recommend them), they offer their repeat clients a special deal when larger amounts are prepaid. I've done it several times and found it to be a great option. When the escort arrives, I tell her within the first hour how long I would like to book her for. If she stays for extra hours, they are simply deducted from my prepayment and I don't have to get out my creditcard on the spot.

Good luck and have fun!
Re: A few questions from someone who has never used escort services
Posted: 2017-02-09, 8:56 pm

felix203
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Thanks for all the replies!

A few follow-up questions (based on the answers above):
* If something doesn't seem right, let's say the girl is for example visibly sick or very tired, is it ok to send her away and not pay the full price? How should one deal with this kind of a situation? Should I call the agency, or demand to speak with them when the girl calls them?

* One reply above mentioned that you and the girl should be showering within 30-45 minutes from the arrival. Is it customary to shower together before moving to the bedroom? Do the girls demand it? I would assume that both of us have showered before she arrived, and that we could shower together only after the sex?

* Regarding protection, can high class escorts give a handjob without a condom, or are they strictly against it?
Re: A few questions from someone who has never used escort services
Posted: 2017-02-09, 9:06 pm

grimnul Power Kat
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I would think with a good agency like Society Service, they wouldn't send a girl out who was sick, they'd contact you, tell you the girl is sick, and try to make alternative arrangements. If it does happen, I'd just call the agency.

I always shower in advance, personally. I wouldn't worry about the girl's cleanliness of she's from a good agency. Every girl I've seen from Society Service was immaculate.
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