Maybe this a stupid question, but it is one that has sort of been bothering me.

I'd like to use a service like SS or TCC. But I don't fit the profile if their typical client, and I wonder if this will prevent me from enjoying it.


Why do I want to use a service like SS?

Well, who wouldn't want to have a date with a sophisticated woman who looks like a Bond girl.

But more specifically, I'm not in a frame of mind to be in a serious relationship right now. And if I'm honest, it's not easy for me to just go out and pick up women. I'm not a horribly ugly guy, but I'm not a male model either. I can hold a decent conversation, but I'm not a smooth talker with lots of "game." In other words, I would have to put in lots of time and energy, and it would be a struggle. And I just can't be bothered at this moment in my life.


My concern is that it will probably be obvious to a high-class escort that this is why I am there.

It will be clear that I am not a rich guy for whom a few thousand euros is pocket change, and it will also be clear that I'm not some high-flying businessman with very little time who just wants to have some fun while away from the family on a business trip.

It will be obvious that I am just an average guy for whom a thousand plus euros is a significant sum of money, and it will be obvious that I would not be able to mingle with such women "in real life."


Knowing that the escort would know this, I'm having doubts about whether I'd be able to enjoy the experience. Yes, I know it's the escort's job to make you feel at ease and feel desired. But in the back of my mind, I will know that she is looking at me like a loser who is blowing what is a substantial amount of money to me on just a few hours of her time.



So is it a bad idea to use a high-class escort service as an "average" guy?

Or am I overthinking things?

You are overthinking it.
These girls are students, or IT workers or HR managers.
They aren't Bond girls.
Most are attractive, but only a few are traffic-stopping stunners.
The ones I have enjoyed the most have been due to their attitude.

SS is particular about cultivating the right attitude, and setting ground rules that help everyone get comfortable
Everybody is nervous at first meeting, even the girls. It's part of the experience.
They get all kinds of clients. They don't expect royalty and rock stars.
Regular guys looking to check off a fantasy once, or once in a while, is the norm.

They are outstanding judges of character. They are streetwise. They will size you up, not to be judgemental, but to be safe. They have to be able to pick up on a guy that is a problem. Immediately. Don't be offended.

Show that you respect their time, and they will respect yours.
Be early. Clean and freshly shaved. Trimmed nails, fresh breath.
They won't like wasted, dirty or late. It is disrespectful, and that is a deal-killer.
Trim your nails. They can't have scratches or marks left behind.
Be polite, and be honest. Let them know your likes and dislikes, and they will do the same.

Look at it this way. You made an effort--a big effort sometimes--to meet them.
You could be anywhere with anyone. But you chose them.
That's a pretty good starting point for a fine evening. For both of you.

Weasel

Honestly, I think you're overthinking this. These are still escort agencies, not sugar babies. Essentially these women are offering temporary sexual companionship and a night's entertainment (inside and outside the bedroom) for a short time, but you're not in a pseudo-mistress type situation where there's an element of carnal lust and/or friendliness that is supposed to be mixed into the $$$$ side of things. They are still "just" escorts, i.e. sex professionals here to get your rocks off in an evening, rather than a sugar baby looking for a mentor-cum-credit card to pay the bills (i.e. a long term arrangement).

As such the key things on your end are just to pay on time, ensure you're in the right frame of mind to be receptive to their blandishments, and just to emotionally stand back and let them do their job. Ooh and ahh at how they look, let them take the lead if things stall on the evening out, and be clean and respectful, and I'm sure everything will be fine. Overthinking is the enemy of a punter enjoying P4P (once I realized someone was ultimately responsible for their own orgasm now matter how cooperative/hot their partner, my sex life improved wonders) and they will get a confidence boost of their own if you just act suitable impressed by them. Who knows, maybe they'll end up enjoying the "date" as a relaxing and non-stressful night themselves ;p

I agree with Weasel and Grassleaf. I will add that SS does a good job of providing thorough information on their website of the escorts' personalities including their likes/dislikes. If you are introverted by nature don't select a girl who says she likes a guy who is take-charge. I would look over the site and if you can't identify one girl based on her biography, then narrow it down to a few girls who interest you based on looks and biography and then - yes it seems awkward - email management for more advice on selecting a good match. You will receive a reply from Marike, the owner/manager who personally interviews all the escorts. I would even tell a story similar to your post, explaining that you are nervous about impressing a girl. Some of the girls are much more tender than the others.

Make your selection carefully based on all the information they publish. Then go for it and enjoy your evening with a lovely young lady.

It won’t be an issue, but if you’re concerned, email the agency and express your concerns and what you’re looking for. Marike is a very good matchmaker. One of the things that makes high-class ladies like the ones at SS high-class is their ability to make anyone feel special and important. It’s literally their job to make you feel wanted.

Well that's disappointing. I wanted to meet a super model/Bond girl type ... hopefully I get lucky and choose one of the "traffic-stopping stunners"





Thank you for your input. This helps put it all in perspective.

Thanks, this is helpful. Aside from my own insecurity, I was worried I might get lesser service if I came off as the kind of guy who they could "get away with" giving lesser service too. In other words, an affluent/attractive guy would demand the best, while someone who doesn't fit that description would be satisfied with less. But it sounds like if I make an effort and treat them like a gentleman would, that's what's important.

Thank you, IQ and Grimnul. I think I will try to get the agency's recommendations to be on the safe side.

All good advice.

I think you'll find you are far closer to their average client than you think.

When you are dealing with these high class agencies in Amsterdam such as CC, SS and D and D, you can expect the escorts to be genuine girls. By this I mean they are not full time professional escorts, don't necessarily need the money, and are therefore there at least partially because they love sex and aren't too picky about who with. One girl shared with me that she loves sex, but that if she went around picking up guys every night she would be judged as a slut! By becoming an escort she could get a lot of sex and be able to keep it secret.

Another girl with CC told me she was going to the office Christmas party after our date, and she was looking forward to it because "we all have the same secret." So don't forget that, this is a secret for them too.

In another telling conversation I asked a girl what was the craziest thing she had ever done sexually. She looked back at me and said "Do you mean apart from this??" We had a good laugh at that! So it is also an adventure for them too.

I have hired escorts in a few countries and I have to say these high class agencies in ams really stand out, it is a unique experience, and with all the excellent advice above you really should give it a try.

Damn, maybe I should be thinking of hiring the super-high price escorts then. Meeting a nymphomaniac who gets off on her side-job is something of a dream of mine. I've always felt it was too much of a risk to try the high price places though, having been burned in the past after shelling out for the more expensive escorts on Adultwork (I've also fallen for the old upsell trick where they get you naked and horny first, but it is even more annoying when there's no erection-related excuse for how you got fleeced). The one that always stays with me is paying £200 for a sexy Moroccan lady a few years back in London only to turn up and find I'd booked a jabbering coke fiend who couldn't stay focused. I got a very sexy strip show but then it all went down hill.

@jackknight, you're welcome and let us know how it goes for you. I've had plenty of negative experiences in P4P but what keeps me coming back (apart from my total inability to get non-pros to bang my brains out) is the high you get from the good times. When I die I will have had a lifetime of happy sex memories to look back on (the memories of which have still gotten me off multiple times many years later, so there's value for money in it too lol), experiences that I would otherwise never have known was possible in my otherwise nondescript life.

For whatever reason (coughfeminismcough) there's a plague of sexlessness dragging men down across the Western world right now (see: https://news.iu.edu/stories/2020/06/iub ... enick.html and also https://www.joe.ie/life-style/amount-me ... ade-663846). Yet the so-called "incel" community constantly turn their noses up at paying a "dirty" sex worker (who knows more about getting a man off than most women will in a lifetime of bedroom antics), as if they are any great prize themselves. I for one have no intention of looking back on my life and being filled with regret like these guys (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-44143003) due to shame or a false sense of pride, and you shouldn't either. One day none of us here will be able to perform with a woman even if we want to, and I for one intend to have lots of dirty stories to scandalise my future care home workers with.

Amen to that, brother.

I’ll opine that the escorts landscape has changed dramatically over the past 20-25 years. First, indie escort fees have skyrocketed over the years. Places like NYC, San Francisco (Silicon Valley gazillionaires), and Los Angeles can cost an arm and a leg for a 4-8 hour date with a quasi “Bond Girl” or “Formula 1 Paddock Girl” with a magnificent face/body. Going with a European agency girl or indie girl is a better risk/return choice nowadays in late 2021, IMO, versus the USA escorts landscape. I’ve been blessed to have have met some amazing ladies along the way but there are more perils requiring vigilance, IMO, particularly in the North American market for clients. And other locations too.

I chose to “fire” two escorts for cause over the past 3 years. One was a bipolar young lady with a fabulous body. College-degreed but seemingly incapable of working a normal full-time job. The downsides: she was severely bipolar and in debt way over her head. She was an off and on stripper with the stripper club “separating men from their money” mindset. Disingenuous behavior along with blatant lies. She saw me as a means to cure her crisis-filled life. Exited that situation. The second one I fired wanted to act disingenuous and have me empty my wallet for her, in certain regards, acting with an utter absence of reciprocity. It was very disrespectful and I refused to be a doormat. Nowadays there are plenty of indie/agency girls in Europe, Asia, and elsewhere with Twitter accounts and thousands of followers. There are various ladies who are 40-45 years old who state their age as being much younger. One MILF-like lady about 40 years old, originally from Prague (USA based currently), got herself on the cover of an international Playboy magazine edition then raised her rates ~50+%. Her count of Twitter followers soared with her new branding and Playboy affiliation. Marketing, social media, branding, and frequent tweets are commonplace now. For those girls with a social media presence, I’d be wary about seeing any companion who frequently bashes clients. Some will engage in a form of “trash talk” where they put down men who don’t throw significant money at them while fawning over BDE (“Big Dick Energy”) whales who immerse them in luxury gifts. Some whiners constantly demand tips/compensation for “emotional labor”. Yet a number of those same women will aggressively upsell and repeatedly contact a client for multi hour, follow-on dates within a fairly short period of time after an initial date. The gems will give a man breathing room and not pout if he chooses not to contact her again. The money-focused ones, some with 20,000+ Twitter followers, might try to get $10,000+ in annual fee income from a particular client if he appears to have very robust income or net worth. It’s a multilayered topic and one where I’d advise guys to be very cautious nowadays. Know when to walk away, and know when to run, as a song’s lyrics went.

So where do I see escorts available offering superior looks, strong character, and “value for the fees”? In no particular order: Barcelona-based ladies (I’m a fan of Anna Alba). A host of other countries: Italy, France, Belgium, Netherlands, UK, Germany, Austria, etc. Opportunities galore (beware fake photos and trust your intuition). There are Budapest-based ladies who fly under the radar, including hot adult actress Shona River. Meeting a companion in her home city can often be far less expensive than when she is touring. One downside in the escort pursuit can be the trail of money exchanges and/or payment transactions that can flag varying degrees of attention from governments. Good luck!

Cheers!
Jim

Excellent arguments for performing due diligence and doing business with reputable agencies and/or recommended indy providers. Reputable agencies will look out for the provider, as well as the client. Reputable indy providers also act professional, meaning they deliver value, not just extract it.

Countries where SW is illegal (and enforced) have developed a culture where there is not only a risk-premium price, but also a lack of professionalism. Countries where SW is legal, or at least ignored, include the accountability that goes along with a sustainable business model.

I suppose there is also a factor of income inequality at play (especially in the U.S.). The top escorts may charge much more if enough of a percentage of the clientele is orders of magnitude richer. On balance, if I lived in the U.S., I think it would be much better value (and probably comparable cost) to travel to Europe for a holiday instead of paying domestic rates.

The US has always sounded like a complete nightmare for punting to me. I mean, if I ever find myself on the west coast I'd probably go and get ripped off at a Nevada brothel, just to say I'd been, but that would be it. Ironically I'd actually go to try legal weed on the coast and get decriminalized psychedelics in Oregon. Never thought I'd go to American for the drugs lol.

Doing due diligence on new escorts is definitely a cast iron rule of mine too. Much as I love the freedom to sleep with different women, walking into a sauna or massage parlour and picking a girl on a combination of gut instinct and looks yielded distinctly mixed results in my early days. While it is still hit and miss (I recently had two first-time SPs I'd pre-booked cancel my booking on the day), I have at least learned to check for obvious red flags online first, and to cut my losses if a punt wasn't good or if subsequent bookings go downhill.