Escorts & Clubs

Posted: 2023-06-29, 6:28 am

Does anyone have a recommendation for a high class independent escort in Amsterdam? I am visiting for the first time and would like to explore a GFE with one. Willing to spend 2000-2500 for overnight.

Posted: 2023-07-01, 9:26 pm

The risk with arranging an overnight stay with an escort, when you've never met her before, is that several things could go wrong. You're meeting as complete strangers. She might not look at all like her photos. Her personality might be a major mismatch with yours. Once the lady has the fee in hand, she might choose to lay on her back like a starfish, with eyes closed, and show very little or no interest in having sex. I'm speaking from one firsthand experience in Europe.

Recommend arranging a 4-6 hour dinner date instead, before considering an overnight, to first determine whether you have chemistry and compatibility that should carry over into an overnight. Most escorts are making it a point to emphasize that they need at least 7 hours of uninterrupted sleep. An overnight is typically 12-16 hours where the guy makes sure she's well-fed, breakfast included.

There are agencies and independent escorts in the Netherlands which offer plenty of choices. I generally like to go with "elite Amsterdam independent escorts" (recommend using those search terms) as a search query in your case. I seek top-notch ladies who are very comfortable with their sexuality. Don't count on finding any recent/accurate reviews of escorts nowadays.

For an agency, there are decent choices. Haven't used them to date but I like http://www.thecourtesanclub.com and its approach.

Posted: 2023-07-02, 6:18 am

Thanks a lot. You made a very good point, I will go with your advice. A shorter date and then seeing if the same can go into an overnight. I tried searching with your keywords and have found a number of search results. Any particular independent escort you would recommend in Amsterdam? I am traveling from Canada and would want to get good value for my time and money. Thanks in advance.

Posted: 2023-07-03, 8:29 pm

Veteren_Jim wrote:

The risk with arranging an overnight stay with an escort, when you've never met her before, is that several things could go wrong. You're meeting as complete strangers. She might not look at all like her photos. Her personality might be a major mismatch with yours. Once the lady has the fee in hand, she might choose to lay on her back like a starfish, with eyes closed, and show very little or no interest in having sex. I'm speaking from one firsthand experience in Europe.

Recommend arranging a 4-6 hour dinner date instead, before considering an overnight, to first determine whether you have chemistry and compatibility that should carry over into an overnight. Most escorts are making it a point to emphasize that they need at least 7 hours of uninterrupted sleep. An overnight is typically 12-16 hours where the guy makes sure she's well-fed, breakfast included.

There are agencies and independent escorts in the Netherlands which offer plenty of choices. I generally like to go with "elite Amsterdam independent escorts" (recommend using those search terms) as a search query in your case. I seek top-notch ladies who are very comfortable with their sexuality. Don't count on finding any recent/accurate reviews of escorts nowadays.

For an agency, there are decent choices. Haven't used them to date but I like http://www.thecourtesanclub.com and its approach.

Good points about the drawbacks of an overnight.

I don't think an overnight booking is good value, even if you have had a good prior experience with the girl. If you hope to see the girl again and want to have a good reputation with the agency, you will have to give the girl 7-8 hours of sleep. So what does that leave for the 16 hour date? It is basically a standard dinner date with (MAYBE) a quickie in the morning, if you can fit it in before breakfast and her morning wake-up routine. And it will cost you around twice as much as a standard dinner date.

Posted: 2023-07-23, 3:17 am

If I were in your shoes and looking for an agency girl in the Netherlands, I would go with: https://thecourtesanclub.com/escorts/

I don't have any recent independent escort names to share, thus I recommend that you contact someone whom you find appealing and make plans.

Posted: 2023-07-23, 3:45 am

One upside of an overnight is sharing a bed with a beautiful lady and perhaps having morning sex with her. Or maybe showering with her in the morning. If it's "lights out" between midnight and 1am, expect you'd both be awakening between 7am to 8am. I prefer that an overnight date go until 10am or so. Many hotels have checkout time at 11am. Going out in town on a dinner date with a beautiful escort gives you a sense of the eye contact she receives from wait staff and the general public. And men envying that she's with you. Getting her a thoughtful gift and treating her well comes with an overnight, IMHO. Spoiling her and spoiling yourself.

Cost of it all in Summer 2023? Your talking points are spot on regarding the substantial cost versus a dinner date alone. There is generally time for two F&S evolutions during an overnight. Perhaps three if you're lucky and she's game for it. The overnight entails paying for a substantial block of time, including those hours when you're both sleeping. To go to bed with a legitimate Playboy Playmate caliber lady (in my case: she was a 1.78m former model with stunning all-natural C/D cup breasts akin to porn starlet Sonya Blaze) still brings back wonderful memories. She's long retired and I last saw her over a dozen years ago. The fee structure for escorts has grown by leaps and bounds versus 10-25 years ago. I've seen far better deals in Europe for overnights and 24-72 hour dates, in particular, versus USA/Canada.

Posted: 2023-07-24, 1:47 pm

Veteren_Jim wrote:

One upside of an overnight is sharing a bed with a beautiful lady and perhaps having morning sex with her. Or maybe showering with her in the morning. If it's "lights out" between midnight and 1am, expect you'd both be awakening between 7am to 8am. I prefer that an overnight date go until 10am or so. Many hotels have checkout time at 11am. Going out in town on a dinner date with a beautiful escort gives you a sense of the eye contact she receives from wait staff and the general public. And men envying that she's with you. Getting her a thoughtful gift and treating her well comes with an overnight, IMHO. Spoiling her and spoiling yourself.

Cost of it all in Summer 2023? Your talking points are spot on regarding the substantial cost versus a dinner date alone. There is generally time for two F&S evolutions during an overnight. Perhaps three if you're lucky and she's game for it. The overnight entails paying for a substantial block of time, including those hours when you're both sleeping. To go to bed with a legitimate Playboy Playmate caliber lady (in my case: she was a 1.78m former model with stunning all-natural C/D cup breasts akin to porn starlet Sonya Blaze) still brings back wonderful memories. She's long retired and I last saw her over a dozen years ago. The fee structure for escorts has grown by leaps and bounds versus 10-25 years ago. I've seen far better deals in Europe for overnights and 24-72 hour dates, in particular, versus USA/Canada.

That's fair enough, and you make good points about the special experience of being with a truly gorgeous woman for everything (from dinner, to sleep, to waking up in the morning).

My only caveat: it seems like relatively few ladies who work for high end agencies these days are real stunners (the kind who would be getting obvious extra attention from the wait staff at restaurants and general public). For example, at any given time SS might have 40 women on their roster with only 2-3 real head-turning stunners. The rest of them are in the cute, "girl next door" type of category.

I wonder if it was different a few years ago? Maybe with the advent of OF etc., the most stunning girls can rake in money without relying on agencies (or even getting physical)?

Posted: 2023-07-25, 2:10 am

jackknight wrote:

Veteren_Jim wrote:

I wonder if it was different a few years ago? Maybe with the advent of OF etc., the most stunning girls can rake in money without relying on agencies (or even getting physical)?

That's something we've talked about in other forums (in my city of Toronto for example). It seems like the rise of OF has definitely made a dent in things; a lot of hot girls opt for that instead of agency work now. Compared to like 10 years ago, there were much hotter girls working and higher numbers of them.

Posted: 2023-09-20, 8:56 am

https://thecourtesanclub.com/escorts/

This link (The Courtesan Club) is for the agency which used to be Women of the World. One approach when contacting a woman-owned agency is to describe the sort of lady that appeals to you greatly and ask for their feedback as to possible matches. I generally prefer seeing independent escorts.

From my anecdotal observations and firsthand experiences, there are beautiful women to be found out there in the p4p world, but be extra careful with performing due diligence. Some escorts with true ages in their late 30s to early 40s might be touted as "late 20s". Then the guy might be very disappointed when the lady he meets is a "MILF" in his eyes rather than the significantly younger woman he expected. Word has it that some guys will approach hot ladies with OF accounts and see whether they're up for an escort rendezvous. Lots of chatter out there that plenty of OF girls only want to sell photos, videos, and merchandise. With no in-person meetups at all.

Adjusted for inflation, the cost of "hobbying" has soared over the last 20+ years. There are multimillionaires and decamillionaires (or wealthier) out there who will take young hot escorts (or perhaps sugar babies) on luxury dates and pamper them. The cost of living has exploded in many areas/countries and fee hikes are normal in thr p4p venue. Some ladies have great personalities and aim to please. Others might act distant, glum, "going through the motions" in bed, and possibly very money-oriented. Indie escorts will often repeatedly contact a client asking for follow-on dates. Their goal? Tens of thousands in fee income per year, from my vantage point and firsthand experiences. Have a strategy and stick to a budget.

Cheers,
Jim

Posted: 2023-09-21, 6:08 am

Veteren_Jim wrote:

https://thecourtesanclub.com/escorts/

This link (The Courtesan Club) is for the agency which used to be Women of the World. One approach when contacting a woman-owned agency is to describe the sort of lady that appeals to you greatly and ask for their feedback as to possible matches. I generally prefer seeing independent escorts.

From my anecdotal observations and firsthand experiences, there are beautiful women to be found out there in the p4p world, but be extra careful with performing due diligence. Some escorts with true ages in their late 30s to early 40s might be touted as "late 20s". Then the guy might be very disappointed when the lady he meets is a "MILF" in his eyes rather than the significantly younger woman he expected. Word has it that some guys will approach hot ladies with OF accounts and see whether they're up for an escort rendezvous. Lots of chatter out there that plenty of OF girls only want to sell photos, videos, and merchandise. With no in-person meetups at all.

Adjusted for inflation, the cost of "hobbying" has soared over the last 20+ years. There are multimillionaires and decamillionaires (or wealthier) out there who will take young hot escorts (or perhaps sugar babies) on luxury dates and pamper them. The cost of living has exploded in many areas/countries and fee hikes are normal in thr p4p venue. Some ladies have great personalities and aim to please. Others might act distant, glum, "going through the motions" in bed, and possibly very money-oriented. Indie escorts will often repeatedly contact a client asking for follow-on dates. Their goal? Tens of thousands in fee income per year, from my vantage point and firsthand experiences. Have a strategy and stick to a budget.

Cheers,
Jim

I am curious why you have recommended The Courtesan Club so strongly in this thread even though you said earlier that you haven't used them (maybe you have used their service in the meantime?).

I have used TCC. Among the high class Dutch agencies, I found their customer service people to be the most pleasant to interact with. On the other hand, I like their ladies but I don't think they necessarily stand out from the ladies at other agencies.

Posted: 2023-09-21, 6:32 am

Veteren_Jim wrote:

https://thecourtesanclub.com/escorts/

This link (The Courtesan Club) is for the agency which used to be Women of the World. One approach when contacting a woman-owned agency is to describe the sort of lady that appeals to you greatly and ask for their feedback as to possible matches. I generally prefer seeing independent escorts.

From my anecdotal observations and firsthand experiences, there are beautiful women to be found out there in the p4p world, but be extra careful with performing due diligence. Some escorts with true ages in their late 30s to early 40s might be touted as "late 20s". Then the guy might be very disappointed when the lady he meets is a "MILF" in his eyes rather than the significantly younger woman he expected. Word has it that some guys will approach hot ladies with OF accounts and see whether they're up for an escort rendezvous. Lots of chatter out there that plenty of OF girls only want to sell photos, videos, and merchandise. With no in-person meetups at all.

Adjusted for inflation, the cost of "hobbying" has soared over the last 20+ years. There are multimillionaires and decamillionaires (or wealthier) out there who will take young hot escorts (or perhaps sugar babies) on luxury dates and pamper them. The cost of living has exploded in many areas/countries and fee hikes are normal in thr p4p venue. Some ladies have great personalities and aim to please. Others might act distant, glum, "going through the motions" in bed, and possibly very money-oriented. Indie escorts will often repeatedly contact a client asking for follow-on dates. Their goal? Tens of thousands in fee income per year, from my vantage point and firsthand experiences. Have a strategy and stick to a budget.

Cheers,
Jim

Interesting observations. I have never met a girl from an agency who seemed too be late 30s/early 40s when she is listed as "late 20s," but I have met several who were listed as "late 20s" but were early/mid 30s. I have also met a few girls who looked noticeably less slim/fit than they did in their photos. I'm not sure if the photos were edited, or if the girls made sure to look their best for the photo shoots but had since let themselves go a bit.

Their are some very impressive girls who work for agencies. Some legitimately look like models, some are very intelligent and accomplished and sophisticated and charming, some are really amazing in bed and seem to truly enjoy the sex. The majority of the time, however, you will meet a girl who does not stand out so much in any way. She will be cute, but not a head-turning stunner. She will be able to hold a conversation about some different things. She will have some sort of education and career ambition (if not accomplishment), but it is also clear that she is an escort primarily for money and not because it excites her. She will make sure you have a nice time in bed, but it will also be obvious that she's not exactly having the time of her life. This typical experience is fine in my book. But it is the chance of meeting a girl who is really impressive in one way or another that keeps me coming back.

I wonder if the multimillionaire types even use agencies. I am guessing that there are really attractive, impressive women who are only available through referral, and wealthy men find them through their social circles.