Thanks for all the input, gentlemen.

With the long commute, I may just tack on a day or two at that hotel near YinYang and experience FKK/Sauna for the first time or take a long train commute (with weed) into Frankfurt after spending a few days in Amsterdam. I should have been more adventurous when I booked my October 2016 vacation to Amsterdam, which can't come soon enough, but I don't want to waste my 85 euros already invested in my hotel.

So I guess I won't hit my first FKK til I'm closing in on 60. Hence:

"Gather ye rosebuds while ye may . . . "

So looks like I'll be back in Amsterdam on Sept 19-20, half for business and half for pleasure.. Will probably make the trek down to Roermond again, hopefully the weather is nice so I can enjoy the patio!

Have a great time exno..all going well I'll be there for a couple of days in early October. Try to go Diesel, it's admittedly not for everyone but these days the endless laps round de wallen is not for me. It's good to relax and chill out !!

Diesel?? Are you talking about the outlets in Roermond? I strolled around them last time I was there but hilariously there was no place to catch a cab nearby to there at all and I had to walk all the way back to the station to get a cab to Yin Yang.

Hi,
Exno - what do you mean by outlets?
After 30+ years in NYC, I still make the same mistake with cabs,
thinking I could always flag them passing by.
Now I always grab a card from the cabs outside the station, if I wanna stroll around.
Must be some town ordinance.

Diesel - if it's your first FKK, I'd say YinYang would be the ideal.
With the general paranoia and BS with the US scene, its always the relief and wonder that makes the first trip,
beyond the wild sex with women who pay the same rate to get in as you.
I once chanced upon a regular girl - a horse trainer, blonde curvy German, with the largest roundest tits, who just worked whenever she either needed the money, or wanted the distraction. Highlight was her rubbing her pussy on my naked dick, but not inserting, until she came.

The sauna/steam/jacuzzi/pools are a great escape when it gets too much.
But then again, it never does. They almost always respect a nice gracious no thanks, anytime.
Unlike the big FKK clubs in Frankfurt, sometimes...

btw, the protocol with weed's the same as in real life in NL - it's totally uncool to do it in public.
I certainly wouldn't chance bringing it into Germany - since the cops do patrol the trains, sometimes with dogs.
Likely doable easily - but I just get too paranoid.
Have a good time.

Good to hear, Guava. (I envy you that German-woman experience . . . ) ;-)

One of the few great things I heard about FKKs years ago were that they were generally "low pressure" for older guys like me who just may be able to have sex once every five or six hours on a good day. I guess in Frankfurt there may be more competition because some people indicate there are a few hard-sell places that took away any relaxation. One way or the other, Yin Yang will be on my traveling menu for my 2017 trip; I wish I had used more imagination booking this autumn's trip. Also wish I had booked it for now---aside from the political stress here, I haven't touched a woman since I was with cute Megan at Park 118 in November of last year.

Do you notice there is more talk about prives, escorts, and FKKs on this board the past few weeks? It must be indicative that a) The RLD is really shrinking---you should have seen it back in the early 1990s, when it was massive and had tons of peep shows and porn to get one ready for a window girl; and b) people may have more income to spend this year.

hey,
I hear ya. I'm old enough to have been young and foolish in NYC late 80s, early 90s,
when 8th Avenue was called the dog track. I realize now it was really more thrill seeking,
prowling around in a car at 2am.
I didn't get to AMS til 2000 - but quickly realized the RLD there wasn't for me. I started drifting out to the Singel,
then onwards to Alkmaar and Leeuwarden, then to the sauna clubs. Happy Garden was my first.
The first thing that goes is the thrill seeking - when it's all legal and cool, it does fuck with your head haha.
I'd say this is where the real work starts for us Americans - when slowly you start letting go, and start really looking at reality, and then at yourself and what turns you on.
Which has got to include ego-based concerns about how you look, or are expected to perform - just let it all go, treat yourself and then the girls as human, laugh at everything, spend the money wisely on yourself, and it all flows naturally.

Then it became about deciding what works for me - right away, I knew I wanted nothing to do with anything that even hinted that the girl was not working for herself.
I've been to Alkmaar, Brussels RLD, Leeuwarden when I've passed on so many hotties cuz my alarm bells rang, in that regard. I've even been to YinYang in 2008 when I did not partake not even once - simply because the Romanian/Bulgarian mafia was clearly that - a mafia. Or at least felt like one.

But over the years, its been made up for real good, by all the moments...like when I ventured to the Singel, and found the sweetest sex-loving Dutch indie girl - who was deaf mute. Getting it on with a real woman, talking through eyes and hand signals, the authentic sounds that only a deaf mute can make when she's enjoying herself - now that's erotica for me.
Now I'm starting to discover smaller prives in smaller cities, like Ghent...but first, Bernds. Likely next month October.
Do it, man - with that kind of freedom, it quickly reveals itself as being more than just the sex, but also as a fun journey into self-discovery.... hence, it's all good.